As is usually the case with anything religion or bible related this thread is all over the place, huh?
CanadianDream420 – (Oh, 420 ... I get it. Green minded, are ya?)
As with any historical incident, or compilation of text telling of those events, the inaccuracy of the timeline grows exponentially the further back
in time you research. Simply because real and verifiable chronicles (and witnesses, of course) become more scarce, or non existent.
I have to agree with rnaa
You’re math works using the numbers (year) you’ve purported events happened.
But, I found a time line that suggests the alleged call to Jeremiah to be a prophet was in 627 BCE.
And with that I found this bit:
586 BC - This excerpt explains why Jeremiah is known as the "weeping prophet." Ministering at the worst time in Judah's history, he was under house
arrest during the fall of Jerusalem at the hands of the Babylonians in 586 BC (Jeremiah 38:28)
586 BC - The Irish record ties in with the biblical account, which tells us what had happened before then. Jerusalem was destroyed in 586 BC, the
temple was robbed and demolished, and King Zedekiah died in Babylonian captivity ( JEREMIAH 52:11 )
So, he was there as it happened. Allegedly. Not very hard to offer predictions of future events as they unfold before you, ya think?
And, now to through the ole spanner in it:
Who’s to say this rendition of the time line is totally accurate? I'm not saying it is. Just trying to show the futility of proving anything bible
related by using it
as a source document.
However, there is a more important point everyone seems to overlook in regards to any prophesy – whether it comes from the bible, the qur’an or
deciphered from quatrains written by a 16th century pharmacist (Nostradamus) –
The only prophesy likely to come true is of the ‘self-fulfilling’ variety. I refer to rnaa’s mention of the Schrodinger's Cat thought
experiment and it’s implication of the cat being both dead and alive at pre-observance, but once the box is opened it can only be one or the other.
The bible (old, or new) is a collection of texts compiled under one cover meant to be passed on as a moral and judicial guide for future generations
– with examples - to help us determine what we as a people would deem right and wrong, moral and just.
And this, coming from a Christian (Or, as I call myself – I’m recovering Catholic)
Humans are special since so far we're the only thing like ourselves in that vast space you refer to. If one were using the scientific method then
one would be hesitant to state what you do with such finality. Why is it that so many of you immature knee-jerk scientismists argue things in such
(First, if I may ask? What is a scientismists?)
In reply to that cozy, self centered statement made in your first sentence, I offer Drake’s Equation:
An interactive can be found here:
(Which, to address your second talking point in the above quote, IS using the scientific method – as well as calculus – to determine the
likelihood of the human race having sole existence in our universe)
And please, folks, I’m asking you ... to refrain from posting any utube vid claiming proof of whatever …or thump me with scriptures and quotes -
verbatim - as if they represent facts. I’m sure some of you even have them all committed to memory.
And, that’s neat trick, but it means nothing. It certainly will not impress me. I can quote Shakespeare and Conan Doyle … or even Star Trek TOS
in its entirety … it doesn’t make those stories fact. Even though some had a moral plot line /story arc.
[edit on 8/18/2009 by LatentElement]