VERY Accurate Bible Prediction. Must Read.

Originally posted by win 52
reply to post by toasted

 

The trouble with most pastors is they have been taught by men, which makes their teaching flawed. To practice what you preach is a lost art.

I have read the book, asking for God to help me understand things that confused me. I just kept on reading the verse in context, over and over, asking for enlightenment and guess what .... it was given.

Then I studied with pastors from several popular religions. They did not like some of the questions I asked. I even tried the Saturday worship groups. Some were close to what should be, but the human traits of people always got in the way.

I guess I am still on my own path and not with a group.

Good on you 420 .... is that beer in the tube? Try eating a vegetarian lifestyle. Meat dulls your ability to listen. That is the key..... learn to listen and you will hear.

You know I understand completely. I have yet to find a perfect religion or a perfect Church. It bothers me but I attend a Baptist Church regularly and they are not to far off where I go but it ain't perfect. All we can do is do right by what we read in the Bible. I used to worry that I would burn for going to an unperfect church then I relised no one is perfect that is why Jesus died on the cross to cleance our sins. If we got to heaven throught the church we attend or our works then Jesus would have died in vain. That is how I deal with it.

Originally posted by win 52
reply to post by toasted

 

The trouble with most pastors is they have been taught by men, which makes their teaching flawed. To practice what you preach is a lost art.

I have read the book, asking for God to help me understand things that confused me. I just kept on reading the verse in context, over and over, asking for enlightenment and guess what .... it was given.

Then I studied with pastors from several popular religions. They did not like some of the questions I asked. I even tried the Saturday worship groups. Some were close to what should be, but the human traits of people always got in the way.

I guess I am still on my own path and not with a group.

Good on you 420 .... is that beer in the tube? Try eating a vegetarian lifestyle. Meat dulls your ability to listen. That is the key..... learn to listen and you will hear.

Another problem with pastors is that they're Christian. I'm just joking..

But one thing that I think Christians are lacking is a true appreciation for the Old Testament and all the dualities that link seemingly separate and non-related Jewish and Christian concepts.

I was raised Catholic, which is probably one of the most de-judized denominations there are. There was so much I wasn't aware of that as an adult I learned about.

So i learned that the Bible is best understood when one has a thoroughly Israelocentric framework when reading it.

Plus it also helps to map out all the ancient neighbors that are frequently mentioned (Amon , Edom, Tyre, Kedar, etc) to their current day locations.

I think someone with a Messianic Jewish background or sympathy probably has the most complete understanding of the Bible.

Originally posted by Melissa101


You know I understand completely. I have yet to find a perfect religion or a perfect Church. It bothers me but I attend a Baptist Church regularly and they are not to far off where I go but it ain't perfect. All we can do is do right by what we read in the Bible. I used to worry that I would burn for going to an unperfect church then I relised no one is perfect that is why Jesus died on the cross to cleance our sins. If we got to heaven throught the church we attend or our works then Jesus would have died in vain. That is how I deal with it.

I have the "desert island" rule to help me get through those issues.

Is there anythign that you would be restricted from doing because you happened to be stuck on a desert island that God would then count against you for? If so, then God has set an impossible requirement for you to fullfill.

But since that isn't possible , therefore , the things that people normally do but would not be able to do if they were stranded cannot possibly be required for one's salvation

So you're not required to go to Church or do anything like that.

Great, all we need is another Millenarian Cult.

"The end is nigh, I've tweaked the obscure references in the Bible to ensure they make sense.....this time".

"I swear, this time the bible prophecy is bang on".

I guess if you're predisposed towards faith and belief you will find that these things make sense to you.
I remain sceptical and try to do what I do without relying on an oft-rewritten book riddled with discrepancies, lies and mistruths.

Yes, I am aware of my biases and these are my opinions, but I have YET to see anything that even remotely points towards the existence of god(9).

All I see is people trying to manipulate others.

Originally posted by aorAki


Yes, I am aware of my biases and these are my opinions, but I have YET to see anything that even remotely points towards the existence of god(9).

Thanks for the update. We're all enriched.

All I see is people trying to manipulate others.

But you're not, right?

I'm just exercising my right to have a say and to be a dissenter...I thought I made that clear.

bible prophecies are as common as bird poop and much less use, IN MY OPINION.

I do, however, have history on my side...I'll take fact over a zombie god and made-up stories created to gain power over people any day.

Jesus H Christ the historicity of the central figure of the New Testament is still in dispute and by no means settled.

I've seen too many threads where people have manipulated the figures to suit their ends, and this has continued in kind throughout history....hence my original statement about Millenarian cults.

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Originally posted by aorAki
I'm just exercising my right to have a say and to be a dissenter...I thought I made that clear.

bible prophecies are as common as bird poop and much less use, IN MY OPINION.

I know what you're doing, it's not like you're unique.

You're simply making sure that if anyone talks about God, you're going to pop in and say how stupid they are. Then you'll tell them obvious things that everyone knows and think yourself smart for it.

over and over and over again. You'll go into a topic that people of common interest talk about, you will then denigrate their subject and insult them.

And you will praise yourself for your being the better person for it.

We know.

Well, you idiots ( ) need checks and balances otherwise you'll rule the world (oh wait).

So you don't consider it important to have a dissenting opinion? I should just put up and shut up and let you carry on even though I find this #e offensive?

O.k.

Carry on.

You can have your bellchamber back, bellend.

Originally posted by aorAki
Well, you idiots (

) need checks and balances otherwise you'll rule the world (oh wait).

So you don't consider it important to have a dissenting opinion? I should just put up and shut up and let you carry on even though I find this #e offensive?

O.k.

Carry on.

You can have your bellchamber back, bellend.

A dissenting opinion on if one year BC minus another year BC equals x amount years? Yes please.. we need your crucial opinion on this.

What is your opinion about the square root of 4 is 2?

Wow. Nice scroll-diggery and mathwork, OP.
I'm not much up on passages, but that is one interesting bit of biblery.

It should be interesting to see how many more of these passages are 'decoded', so to speak, and related to events which have yet to pass.

Oh, and cheers to a fellow Canadian, dude.

S&F

Originally posted by The time lord
Just to add this into the mixer.

I have heard that we are in the last generation and that means from child to grandparent generation of lets say a 70 year lifespan or more. So lets say Restablish of Israel rounded off from
1948 + 70 years a generation = the year roughly is 2018 for the end times.

Israel was created in 1947 so the last seven years should begin Octoberish of next year to end in 2017 (70 years after 1947.)

Daniel's Timeline

There are no errors that I have been able to find in the presentation I linked to.

I would also like to thank Melissa101 for the link.

reply to post by wraith001


An empty tank thruster will be launched by the Europeans-

spaceports.blogspot.com...

Every 70 years the National debt comes due, we never have the decency to pay so there are usually wars and depression to follow, I believe 2009 is a pay or quit year.

reply to post by antar




Here's just the payment for the INTEREST on the debt the past year:

Interest Expense Fiscal Year 2009
July $19,812,486,187.83
June $106,612,310,280.24
May $20,600,287,859.26
April $24,846,792,476.82
March $19,829,502,464.91
February $10,311,076,391.59
January $ 3,132,139,257.38
December $97,775,030,034.07
November $18,558,733,892.95
October $18,984,305,636.29

Fiscal Year Total $340,462,664,481.34


And the debt this stupid govt is issuing is more and more of the short-term type, meaning, it wont have 30 years to pay off a bond, it will have 3 years.

So the turn around of those buying govt debt and the govt having to pay back the principle is increasing rapidly.

For instance , in 1999, the Fed Got had to finance a total of 17 Trillion in debt issuance, and it had to pay out 16 Trillion in Redemptions

In 2008, it had to issue 43 Trillion , with redemptions of 42 Trillion.

In 2009 YTD , its 45 Trillion issued, 43 Trillion in redemptions.

www.treasurydirect.gov...

And this insane Govt keeps loading more and more debt onto the budget.

Obama is deliberately trying to destroy the currency and economy.. ala Cloward-Piven strategy.

Originally posted by ancient_wisdom
The reason it is so "accurate" is because Rothschild who created Israel wanted it to seem like a fulfillment of biblical prophecy. It isn't "divine intervention" simply human intervention.

The ONLY, I mean only bible prophecy has to deal with Israel. Research Rothschild formation of Israel and you'll start to suspect just how "divine" this prophecy is. In the same way, the "rapture" will not be a divine work but rather crazy religious people who want prophecy to be revealed so badly they will create it themselves.

You gotta love how extremist christians are so into the bible they feel they have to help God to his final prophecy, as if God couldn't do it on his own.

Hi Ancient_Wisdom,
Well said!
Exactly, people will sometimes bring out what they want to see happen...Im sure God has other plans!

ICXC NIKA
helen

Originally posted by helen670

Originally posted by ancient_wisdom
The reason it is so "accurate" is because Rothschild who created Israel wanted it to seem like a fulfillment of biblical prophecy. It isn't "divine intervention" simply human intervention.

The ONLY, I mean only bible prophecy has to deal with Israel. Research Rothschild formation of Israel and you'll start to suspect just how "divine" this prophecy is. In the same way, the "rapture" will not be a divine work but rather crazy religious people who want prophecy to be revealed so badly they will create it themselves.

You gotta love how extremist christians are so into the bible they feel they have to help God to his final prophecy, as if God couldn't do it on his own.

Hi Ancient_Wisdom,
Well said!
Exactly, people will sometimes bring out what they want to see happen...Im sure God has other plans!

ICXC NIKA
helen

Most of prophecy is fullfilled through thoroughly "normal" historical events.

I'm not even going to bother read some idiotic nonsense about Rothschild (!! but people who read the Bible are nutty, right?) but even if it were true .. what's the difference in regards to the usual history?

Conventional history is that Israel is the result of the efforts of the socialist secular Jewish Zionist movement, which wasn't even broadly supported by the religious community.

I bet those atheist socialist Jews didn't think they were fullfilling what is probably the most frequent prophecy of the entire bible, which was the return of the Jews to the homeland following an extraordinary long exile.

But they did, didn't they? Or Rothschild did. And they didn't even want to.

The whole plan of salvation is laid out in the 7 Levitical feasts of Israel.

1) The Pass over - The 10th plague of Egypt was a microcosm of the Lords sacrifice on our behalf to deliver us from Egypt (sin).

2) The Feast of unleavened bread showed us that he was sinless. (leaven or yeast represented sin).

3) The Feast of first fruits showed us that He took with him a "First fruits" of those that will be saved.
Mat 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Mat 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

4) Pentecost - Holy Spirit poured out to grow the church through evangelism.
Pentecost means 50 in Greek or 50 days after the Passover is when this Feast took place.

----------Those Feasts were Fulfilled during the Lords walk on Earth---------

5)The Feast of Trumpets - Fulfilled from 1834 AD to 1844 AD called the Millerite movement (Google it)

6) The Feast day of Atonement represents the one time event when the Lord would cleanse the sanctuary (Started in 1844) (the presence of the Lord) of all sin prior to His second coming in order to provide a sinless abode (Home / Earth ) for His followers (Commandment Keepers).

7) The Feast of Tabernacles represents the Second Coming of our Lord and Savior in the air, to meet His redeemed.

Originally posted by john124

Yes a quantum state can change due to an observer's effect, but you claimed that the universe could collapse without any observer's. Big difference there!!!

You have misunderstood the uncertainty principle or you have learnt a bull# modified pseudo-scientific version from your pseudo-physics peers.

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Sorry to disturb your little party, but...

Pot, meet Kettle.

Quantum states do NOT change due to an observer's effect. Quantum states are UNDEFINED until they are observed.

In other words, there is nothing to change until it is observed, and then it is too late to change anything.

Schroedinger's Cat is neither dead nor alive until you open the box to have a look.

Have both of you "learnt a bull# modified pseudo-scientific version from your pseudo-physics peers"?

reply to post by CanadianDream420


It seems there are a lot of us Bluenosers and Herring Chokers here in Calgary. Where on the East coast are you from?

Very nice work, by the way...well done.

Originally posted by rnaa

Originally posted by john124

Yes a quantum state can change due to an observer's effect, but you claimed that the universe could collapse without any observer's. Big difference there!!!

You have misunderstood the uncertainty principle or you have learnt a bull# modified pseudo-scientific version from your pseudo-physics peers.

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Sorry to disturb your little party, but...

Pot, meet Kettle.

Quantum states do NOT change due to an observer's effect. Quantum states are UNDEFINED until they are observed.

In other words, there is nothing to change until it is observed, and then it is too late to change anything.

Schroedinger's Cat is neither dead nor alive until you open the box to have a look.

Have both of you "learnt a bull# modified pseudo-scientific version from your pseudo-physics peers"?

Correction: Quantum states of observables such as momentum or energy do have a cause and effect by all observers and all other components of reality, due to the butterfly effect.

Yes they are undefined until observation, because that is the only method for us to determine the properties of these observables.


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