Has ATS become A Right Wing Side Show!?!?, page 9
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reply posted on 16-8-2009 @ 10:13 AM by nixie_nox
reply to post by muzzleflash



And you are rude.

I didn't say ats was created in 2006. I said I believed ats was created in 2006, which leaves room for error.

That is what the data I have seen shows, a lot doesn't go back to 2004 or 2002.

so instead of the usual hostility, you could of politely corrected me.

And henceforth, proved my case.

[edit on 16-8-2009 by nixie_nox]


reply posted on 16-8-2009 @ 10:41 AM by dodadoom
reply to post by symmetricAvenger


This is why we are ALL screwed as a people.IMO
Everyone thinks they are always right and would
never admit they were ever wrong.
Or would ever take responsibility for their votes.
Meanwhile the raping of the country continues unabated.
(by both sides)

This divisiveness will never be fixed. Ever.
In 2012 it will swing the other way and continue.
We will have many more profit wars and forget all about the american peoples needs or wants.
Its a shame we have so much wealth and continue to blow it daily.
People are too ingrained in their beliefs and
I am sure they will fight to the death for them.
Even if they are proven wrong.... Iraq proves this.
We would rather perpetuate an ongoing war than admit we were wrong.
We justify it however we must. This is why we fail.
War is our friend and is fueled by greed. It is a constant companion.
We know nothing else but what our society is.
Thats why it wont change. We dont know how.

Nope we are toast and its mostly because of this infighting.
Nothing will ever get solved (like health care) unless we give up
the right/left fallacy. Which we wont.
You can tell by some of the posts here this will never ever change.

Enjoy what you have left. Its as good as its ever gonna get.
We will continue to fight untill we screw ourselves completely
and have no recourse anymore.
Am I a defeatist wallowing in doubt?
Nope, I'm a realist saying put on your seat belts.
(if you need to use labels)
The turbulence is terrible.

Here this explains it: Caution potty talk!

I could be all wrong of course!
Miracles do happen!
Apparently the ONLY time we agree is during a catastrophe!
(or a war)


[edit on 16-8-2009 by dodadoom]


reply posted on 16-8-2009 @ 10:58 AM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by contemplator





The best forum communities I have ever used catered to the liberal mindset and ran off conservatives & religious loonies.


Really?

Really?

So in other words no opinion other then yours is valid?


reply posted on 16-8-2009 @ 11:04 AM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by kadugen





• Democrats are in control now, they are TPTB (bad guys in ATS vocabulary). If Bush were still president you would see a majority anti-Republican sentiment at ATS.


Well I guess they can't take a dose of their own medicine, eight years of Bush bashing on ths forum, and

OH wait they still Bush bash and conservative bash and Christian bash, they just don't want to really hear anything other then their view.


reply posted on 16-8-2009 @ 11:12 AM by HunkaHunka
reply to post by NoJoker13



You are exactly right.

Just look at the titles in the Political Conspiracies section.


90% P-Troll, 10% actual discussion.



reply posted on 16-8-2009 @ 11:20 AM by orangetom1999
No Joker 13 and others.

This premise of yours is laughable. There are those of us who go back far enough to remember the very vitriolic posts about stolen elections...which went on forever ..or so it seemed. The same old tired rhetoric.

Now that the tables are turned seemingly the other way the posts are about those who do not go along with the devout religious beliefs of those who prefer entitlement systems...including the entitlement to the office of President.

Anyone who disagrees or disapproves is called or labeled a Hater. This telegraphs strongly of an entitlement belief system at work. THat ideas, policies, politics should play through unquestioned, unfettered, unchallenged. It is not so.

What many do not understand and cannot even contemplate is that there are those out here who are conservative but dont like or approve of either of the two political parties....democrats or republicans. We think both are from the same cut of cloth. They just look differently on the outside.
Neither of them is actually representing the American Public. They are representing someone or something ...but not Americans.

The other facet to keep in mind is that it is becoming clear that most Americans are not as liberal as someone out there would like to take for granted that we are. We do not like the two party system ...but nonetheless ...we are not as liberal nor approving of the two party system. This group is growing in this country.

Many of the posters to this thread have alluded to this basic belief system in their posts in different ways.

THe main problem for many us with this administration is that we are becoming aware of the very devout religious political "Entitlement" beliefs of this political party...along with their very cheap way of labeling their opposition as Haters, Racists, Nazis, Hitlers etc etc. We have seen enough of this fingerprint to know that this is not leadership. It is instead very cheap politics. And Americans expect better of their leaders. THe democratic party has done alot of this over the years and it now reflects on their president. It is unavoidable. THey have been doing it for so long...they actually think it wise and entitled politics.
We are also aware of the very cheap and devout religious beliefs of the main stream media who are shilling for this president and his political party while labeling everyone who opposes as a Hater, Nazi, Racist. Hitler...etc etc. This causes many to turn against the media machine who also and openly put this president and political party into office. We are voting with our remote controllers.
Do not make the mistake that because of this understanding about the system in operation... that we automatically believe in Fox News. Many of us have found them to be just the same only for the other phony side.

We will make up our own minds...thank you.

Americans are not as left leaning as most would think or like to assume we are. This does not automatically make us haters. It means we disapprove of what is happening.
THe labeling is very much of what we disapprove in politics...it shows great immaturity and the tendency of someone out there to take advantage of peoples emotions rather than use reason and issues. This is an attempt at emotional pimping and rape of people against their will. And it is getting very tiring and disgusting.
We are waking up to this fingerprint used by both political parties and the machine which pimps for them. They will both sell the souls of the American public for lucre.

Thanks,
Orangetom


reply posted on 16-8-2009 @ 11:28 AM by Blaine91555
reply to post by NoJoker13


Far Left, Far Right, same sheep, different wolves clothing. Controlled by Partisan ideology incapable of independent critical thinking.

Its a shame Independents get attacked from both sides with slanderous remarks.

What is really being said by both sides is if you don't tow MY Parties line, shut up, you have no rights. Only people who agree with us have the right to speak.

Lets have a discussion about Partisans trying to control speech. That is a legitimate topic. Might not get a lot of silly flags and stars but it might actually be relevant and important.

Why are you opposed to free speech and debating issues?


reply posted on 16-8-2009 @ 11:29 AM by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by mattifikation
I thought political trolling and partisan hate threads were taboo around here? *shrug.* Must have been wrong. Might as well add my two cents then:


Hey, all you people who hate the right wing:


Thanks for helping to divide America along one half of an arbitrary political feud that the elite have created to prevent us from becoming united. Your dedicated and loyal commitment to blindly vilifying half of your country has been invaluable to half the crooked career politicians who are working effortlessly to manipulate and destroy you for their own personal gain.

Hey, all you people who hate the left wing:


Thanks for helping to divide America along one half of an arbitrary political feud that the elite have created to prevent us from becoming united. Your dedicated and loyal commitment to blindly vilifying half of your country has been invaluable to half the crooked career politicians who are working effortlessly to manipulate and destroy you for their own personal gain.


Yeah, that's right, all of you, on both sides of the aisle, without exception, thanks a lot for helping to destroy our country. If you want to "Deny Ignorance" then quit siding with half of the crooked politicians out there and join those of us who are living life "outside the matrix" so-to-speak. ;-)


That was a good post Matt, so I am repeating it,
Odd the only star it got was from me.

The more I read the post, the more I come to the conclusion that you may be correct,

I used to think people who bought into the forum being a set up were paranoid, but after the recent odd serious of coincidence, I am starting to believe it very well may be.


reply posted on 16-8-2009 @ 11:41 AM by FlyersFan
Originally posted by contemplator
The fact is (proven scientifically) that conservatives are not open to differing viewpoints. .

OMG that's funny. Radical left wing 'tolerance' is only extended to those who share a radical left wing view. I won't claim that it's been proven 'scientifically' because for anyone to claim that - from the right or the left - would be absolutely absurd.

Originally posted by contemplator
The best forum communities I have ever used catered to the liberal mindset and ran off conservatives & religious loonies.

Been hanging out at that looney-bin echochamber called 'the democratic underground' .. haven't ya.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
Welcome to ATS. Get over it.
ps (anyone sick of these stupid threads yet?)

Amen! and YES!

Originally posted by NoJoker13
I've had the pleasure *sarcasm*, of coming onto ATS the past few months to only see the spread of Right Wing hate and a disturbing trend of Republicans trying to tear this website and this country apart.


1 - You've been here 2 months and have no idea about the history of this site.

2 - As far as 'tearing this country apart' ... plenty of dems are guilty of that ... Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Obama, etc etc. Running down the country is an equal opportunity sport for both the left and the right.

3 - If you don't like this site then quit whining and leave.

Originally posted by NoJoker13
I am for my country thick or thin,

If you are FOR your country that doesn't mean you have to be FOR the POTUS. Sometimes the best thing is to be against what the POTUS wants. For example ... the last two presidents ...



[edit on 8/16/2009 by FlyersFan]
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