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posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by orangetom1999

Originally posted by VinceP1974
reply to post by mental modulator
 


The basis for a policy's legitimacy at the Federal level is whether or not something is Constitutional. Not moral.


Vince,

This was exactly my point about the Rule of Law verses the Law.

They bait and switch just like they do with the Constitution and what is moral...though it be contrary to the Consitution.

Legal verses Lawful.

Form verses Substance.

You are on a roll now..Keep it up.


Thanks. I knew that we agreed with one another, which is why I called your statement nitpicking


They appeal to a false a morality,, a morality of extortion and bribery.

I'm so glad that I read Atlas Shrugged. I will not allow my virtues to be used against me by those who seek to use to them to destroy me.




posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 02:23 PM
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So if you were here for three years (as you claim), then why make this thread?



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 11:57 PM
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reply to post by technical difficulties
 


Because clearly it's become a problem in my eyes, you people call me a "sheeple" but clearly I disagree. I think the sheeple are the ones buying into the fearmongers and paranoia, which are clearly running rampit here now a days.



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 11:59 PM
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Very Well Put, I Agree.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 07:49 AM
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Thanks and I think thats a fact that nobody can really dispute here, I mean turn on the TV and hear how many people say we're gonna turn into Russia or Nazi Germany. It's sickening, luckily in dartmouth, ma not far from my home town Barney Frank layed into some lady holding up a sign with Obama looking like Hitler. It was pretty hilarious but it definently goes to show you how easily manipulated people are by what they hear. I wonder if anyone has any opinion on the matter for themselves? Because I hear the same yahoos on fox news spitting o0ut the same fearmonging babbble.

Can anyone here disagree with that? That Fox News is clearly trying to spread disinformation through fearmonging and hate???? Cause clearly in my eyes they are.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 08:55 AM
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reply tdpost by NoJoker13
 
Both wings are responsible for tearing up the site.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 09:33 AM
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People have no idea how intelligent other people are - they literally have never been around genuine intelligence and therefore are amazed at their own intellectual prowess when they regurgitate Google searches -

I think without DOUBT electricUniverse has single handedly destroyed this web site - perfect example of someone who "doesn't believe" in books or university education - when they can just get google to back up any random ignorant twisted mind numbing asinine moronic feckless garrulous rant they can conjure up from their amoebic brain. Its genuine stupidity of the highest order that is ruining this site - most people - especially electricUniverse - simply have no idea of the what the most mundane of political theories are - the ideas of the left and right, the meaning of socialism, fascism, Nazism, communism or Marxism blur into simplistic dichotomies of social stereotypes of the most intellectually feeble kind - it is genuinely depressing to see just how mentally moribund people are - electricUniverse is teh absolutely perfect example of this type of behavior on Above Top Secret sheer unadulterated arrogance backed up by an un-shakeable conviction in totally unconsidered and uneducated positions.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:02 AM
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Audas,


perfect example of someone who "doesn't believe" in books or university education - when they can just get google to back up any random ignorant twisted mind numbing asinine moronic feckless garrulous rant they can conjure up from their amoebic brain.


This would normally pass for excellence and the high moral ground et al...etc etc.

I need you to clarify for me how this differs from the emotional education one often gets in todays "Universities".??

They do use computers in "University" tody ..do they not??

After seeing alot of what is turned out on todays "Universities" I have difficulty taking a bite out of what you are posting here.

It was a lawyer who first clued me into this concept about "Universities."
He was very dissappointed in the overall quality of what was turned out in law schools today.

Thanks,
Orangetom



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 08:53 AM
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reply to post by technical difficulties
 


So show me the over whelming thread posted by this "other" wing.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 09:54 AM
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posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 10:13 AM
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reply to post by No Joker13
 


No Joker,

For many years now ...this political party backing this administration has used labeling and vitriol to mark those who disagree with them.

Labels like Hitler, Extremist, sexist, racist, Homophobe,....all this to invoke a emotional reaction from an unthinking public.

Their shills ...the media have jumped right on the bandwagon as well.

With this issue ...health care...the public on both sides of the political spectrum are beginning to clearly see how the political system is stacked against them and used in manipulating them...both the parties and the media. ...and especially the labeling

What some of the public is beginning to sense about this administration and its political party is that they are not that mature in their abilities or in handling the public or the public's perception of them. This translates into a lack of confidence in them by the public...as they continually fall short and use immature techniques based on entitlement beliefs in their public presentation.
People are beginning to ask...what did we vote into office??

And Barney Frank is a member of this political affiliation as is the speaker of the house.

It is becoming obvious that this president , just like others before him, is nothing more than a mouthpiece for someone behind the scenes..as are most of the senators and representatives...but particularly those in selective high offices.
It is becoming obvious that these peoples in office represent someone ..but not the public. This is becoming clear to the public on both sides of the political spectrum.

The real overall awareness...is in this administration and the political party that represents them...to "DIVIDE" the country and its people ..politicallly...not "UNITE" country and its people.
This is becoming uncomfortably clear to Americans.
The Labeling and name calling we see, not only in the media and by politicians, is part of this DIVIDE philosophy at work.
It is very destructive..and also it is not LEADERSHIP.

The LEFT/RIGHT divide is not helping and nor is the media in this.
They are all become one and the same. Lacking real leadership while they manipulate with the left/right divide dogma.

The king has on no clothes. The king is naked.

This is what Thinking Americans are beginning to see...and they dont like it.
And they are growing in number.

To complicate this...rather than pay attention to what is happening out here...the politicians and this administration....plod on with their textbook political techniques by entitlement..hence who is Leading the Country and representing the public??

Such conduct speaks of a Kingdom at work..a royalty..a fiefdom....untouchable.

The continued use or misuse of the word "RACIST" along with other labels..to label and mark anyone who disagrees with them is textbook of this royalty and feudal intolerance...lack of leadership qualities.....and entitlement beliefs. It also bespeaks of great insecurity...which they must foist off on others. They must have this crutch to automatically put others on the defensive and default to them leverage. Americans are getting tired of this as well. It too is become Wolfie so to speak...by being overused.
At some basic level...Americans know this technique or weakness is not leadership. It is phony.

Nothing in your posts addresses this view...or unites the country...nor speaks to the concerns of both sides. In any of the issues.

as to this..


I mean turn on the TV and hear how many people say we're gonna turn into Russia or Nazi Germany.


Where have you been?? I know people who were saying this back in the 1970s. This is not a new concept. It has been around for some time even going back before the 1970s.

What is becoming clear is that it is becoming difficult to hide this "Change."
History is proving out that these speakers and writers back in the 1970s and before were correct.

England is already half way there right now. It is being hidden and kept from most of us as to what is happening in the UK. Same with Australia as their governments move towards more draconian rule over the people...and replacing the liberties of the public..with PC standards.
One would not think that in the electronic age a heavy paper curtain or electronic curtain could be put over people ...but it has been done.

Thanks,
Orangetom



[edit on 25-8-2009 by orangetom1999]



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 06:57 PM
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Well you've accused me of quite a lot here, so as a question back to you could it be possible that you've given into the paranoia and the fearmonging that is running rampit in the US now a days? I mean with how you talk about the healthcare bill and "real" americans you seem to have quite a grip on your beliefs, so is it possible you've been swayed by the same storm sweeping the country?



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by orangetom1999
 


Well you've accused me of quite a lot here, so as a question back to you could it be possible that you've given into the paranoia and the fearmonging that is running rampit in the US now a days? I mean with how you talk about the healthcare bill and "real" americans you seem to have quite a grip on your beliefs, so is it possible you've been swayed by the same storm sweeping the country?


Oh spare us your medicated nonchalance in the face of a full front attack on our liberties by Communists in the White House and nutcases in the Congress.

Whenever I hear the cries of "oh , the're being fearful" it's usually by someone who wants to deny the existance of a threat they wish wasn't there. be it terrorism or maniacs in government.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 07:49 PM
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Hah deny a threat, thats laughable. How about show me the threat then I'll be threatened. All I've seen is a whole lot of gray and not enough proof.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 09:31 PM
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Open your own eyes.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 10:33 PM
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reply to post by VinceP1974
 


Thanks for all that information.



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 08:16 PM
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I absolutely agree with you.

It is so unbelievable how they just "band together" and start insulting the entire world around them, calling them Nazis, fascists, other similar words.

Look, life's unfair, and not everyone likes every decision being made. But to call a general group of people, i.e. Democrats, fascists just 'cos they're not like you, is like Democrats calling all Republicans, "Christian-crazy idiots" (term i found on another site).

I think this is demeaning FOR ALL SIDES. Now let's stop with the name-calling, people. EVERYONE GROW UP.

Democrats, make nice. Republicans, MAKE NICE.

Now let's go out there and show all those aliens (I mean, REAL aliens) that humanity can stand TOGETHER.



posted on Sep, 28 2009 @ 02:50 PM
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There has definately been an incredibly large influx of Beck-esque loons on this forum in the last 6 months. A ridiculous amount.

They're nuts really. They have no understanding of anything, they're simply victims of brainwashing and propoganda. Get this, Obama is a left-wing in their opinion



posted on Sep, 28 2009 @ 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by KingAmongstMen
There has definately been an incredibly large influx of Beck-esque loons on this forum in the last 6 months. A ridiculous amount.


Or, and this is just a thought I have, perhaps there hasn't been an influx of anything and it's more a perfect example of many people here not caring what political party controls the White House and having the same complaints about both parties. That sounds much more realistic since a large majority of the people now dismissed on this site as right-wing crazies were deemed left-wing crazies not even a year ago.

I suppose that would make too much sense though and we can't be having any of that.



posted on Sep, 28 2009 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Jenna

Originally posted by KingAmongstMen
There has definately been an incredibly large influx of Beck-esque loons on this forum in the last 6 months. A ridiculous amount.


Or, and this is just a thought I have, perhaps there hasn't been an influx of anything and it's more a perfect example of many people here not caring what political party controls the White House and having the same complaints about both parties. That sounds much more realistic since a large majority of the people now dismissed on this site as right-wing crazies were deemed left-wing crazies not even a year ago.

I suppose that would make too much sense though and we can't be having any of that.


Ah, but this influx of Beck-esque loons were never left-wing crazies.

As a left-wing crazy this year and last year, I can assure you they've never stood alongside me.


Last year they were right-wing nuts just as they are right-wing nuts now. Never once have the Beck-Brigade been on the Left. They were and still are Right-Wing war mongers.





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