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Has ATS become A Right Wing Side Show!?!?

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posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:22 PM
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reply to post by Janitor From Mars
 


My point the spread of blind hate and absolutely no call for the types of tactics these people are using, very very low par.




posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:23 PM
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reply to post by Helghast1
 


Umm topic poster, read that I voted for Bush and was extremely against people calling my president a nazi or otherwise. Read on before posting it's bad etiquette.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:25 PM
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reply to post by wonderworld
 


I believe the whole government taking over your baby thing is a false flag I'll have to find more literature, thats my point about the tension builder party.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:29 PM
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reply to post by symmetricAvenger
 


Not even worth a response, all you did is address the subject matter crudely and gave little or no response to the subject at hand... mate. Take a look at the first three threads on the original post you tell me there isn't any bias... truthfully.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:30 PM
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JD plese read through the threads like everyone else should, I stated I've been here since 2006 and have had to recreate an account because it has been stolen a few times by dushce bag friends that want to wreak havok. I've been here for the left wing bias and was opposed to that as well. My point is faith in ones country regardless of sides.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:31 PM
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reply to post by HotDogNoBun
 


Hey you proved my point thanks!



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by mikerussellus
 


You'd be in the majority so you'd probably be praised for it, start up your thread and prove me correct.


No, as much as it would justify your rhetoric, I honestly believe in open and honest debate.
Not shutting people down just because they believe differently than I.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:33 PM
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reply to post by Wherestheproof
 


My point exactly I'm not saying I love Obama since I've already stated I also voted for Bush. I take the lesser of two evils he seemed to be the better choice, I'm pro-american at all costs, faith in one's country.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:34 PM
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reply to post by Cito
 


You mean if your check book permits it right?



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:35 PM
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reply to post by blind.face
 


I've stated I was against many of those threads as well, I voted for bush. Read my other posts.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:37 PM
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I've done PLENTY of community service on my own and think if people haven't then it's a great thing to get into. Forcing it a little on high school kids I think teaches work ethic, responsibilty, and a sense of accomplishment.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:38 PM
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Alright Dinner beckons, I'm only upto page 7 with my replies sorry for any tardiness on my response but work and family come first. Until later.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by NoJoker13
Alright Dinner beckons, I'm only upto page 7 with my replies sorry for any tardiness on my response but work and family come first. Until later.


Ah, food followed by more free speech ... sounds like a perfect American Sunday.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:45 PM
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hey real quick, not sure if you read my post yet, wanted to apologize for some heated harsh words. I just take it a little to heart, and have similar discussions a lot with other people. So please, take nothing personal as an attack on you.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Opposition to Nazi's is a good thing. Nothing hateful about that.

The definition of Nazi is National Socialism, the expanision of state control of the economy. Since this is exactly what Obama is doing the comparison is unavoidable. He has already taken over banks, autos, now he wants to take over the medical field. How much more can he take over before we call him the Fuhrer?

Economic definitions:

Recession: When your neighbor loses his job.
Depression: When you lose your job.
RECOVERY: When Obama loses his job!

I want Obama to fail....for the sake of our country!


There it is, straight out of their mouths to you. A lot of these people want our President to fail. The entire political process has been compromised by lobbyists and financial interests. BOTH parties have been utterly compromised. I was never a Bush fan, (I'm an Independent liberal), but I never wanted him to FAIL.
This is my opinion: The Republicans have shown themselves to be the most immature, spoiled sports I have ever seen. They are poor losers to say the least...I'm not often left speechless, but I find it hard to articulate the level of vehemence and sheer intent of retaliation that I've seen coming from the Right. Bush virtually stole his initial election, and still you didn't see Democrats react this poorly. The Republicans are in a panic because they have lost their power base. Anybody remember the Congressional redistricting practices in Texas and other states carried out by Republicans???
REPUBLICANS- YOU LOST BECAUSE IN THE EYES OF THE VOTING PUBLIC, YOU FAILED TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY PROPERLY, END OF STORY. Grow up, act like adults, and move on. By the way, The Police and Fire services in our country are SOCIALIZED, as well as Public Education...check it out, nobody's whining about that.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:52 PM
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You find life pointless? That is sad. Each breath is very special to me.

I have enjoyed my life to the maximum and still going.

Sometimes it's hard to see the beauty of this earth and it's people because we forget everything is for our pleasure and enjoyment.

Concerning Bush, Obama or any other president or world leader I Will say that our problems are much bigger than any one man.

Greed is the biggest problem right now. No war, no revolution is going to be a permanent fix.

Until there is a new attitude, awakening or new age we will still argue and cause division among ourselves.

I am happy to see so many people responding to this thread that I do believe loves our Country.

We will get no where unless we can learn to put others ahead of ourselves.
When each of us is concerned for his fellow human then we will all benefit.

We must agree to disagree and still respect each other. We must learn to work together for the good of mankind or the present administration and future administrations will continue to have their way with us.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 03:06 PM
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Firstly, from a British/European perspective, the US is, in general, further to the right than Europe. That means that even what would be considered the centre in the US is right wing to us.

This is most obvious in the way Americans use the word "socialism" to equate with "communism" and "evil". To us, these are just political systems. To Americans, they are something to get hysterical about.

It's bizarre, frankly.

Secondly, I agree with the OP. ATS does seem to have become a bit of a right wing circus and there are so many threads on Obamacare (incidentally running down the NHS, quite incorrectly) that it's not even funny.

Someone earlier in the thread suggested that the best discussion boards were those in which right wingers were run off. Sadly, while I have had some good discussions with intelligent right wingers, this is the exception rather than the rule.

This poses a question...

Why do right wingers like to be sheep?

Many are proud of it. Some proudly wear the label "dittoheads" because they are stoked to parrot the imbecilities of the O'Reillys and Hannitys of this world.

Strangely, there is an answer to this queston.

Right Wing Authoritarianism

It's really worth checking out. And it helps you understand why their arguments are so poor...


According to John Dean, who wrote in Conservatives Without Conscience, "Many conservatives, particularly those who are clearly authoritarians, are not aware of their illogical, contradictory, and hypocritical thinking. If made cognizant of it, they either rationalize it away, neglect to care, or attack those who reveal their human weaknesses. Because such thinking seems to be a reality of contemporary conservatism, anyone operating from a logical mind or has the inclination toward a reasoned judgment will have a problem with this." Dean adds that right-wing authoritarianism reveals itself in three ways:

1.Authoritarian submission — a high degree of submissiveness to the authorities who are perceived to be established and legitimate in the society in which one lives.
2.Authoritarian aggression — a general aggressiveness directed against deviants, outgroups, and other people that are perceived to be targets according to established authorities.
3.Conventionalism — a high degree of adherence to the traditions and social norms that are perceived to be endorsed by society and its established authorities.

In North America these traits are seen more readily in those with conservative political leanings. To break this down even further, one can examine the following symptoms that reveal the authoritarian personality organized into four distinct catagories.


The above may help in diagnosing the causes of peculiar thinking on this board.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by moonzoo7
There it is, straight out of their mouths to you. A lot of these people want our President to fail. The entire political process has been compromised by lobbyists and financial interests. BOTH parties have been utterly compromised. I was never a Bush fan, (I'm an Independent liberal), but I never wanted him to FAIL.


No but you probably cheered or laughed when they did that mock assassination film of him. Or how about the hate-filled rhetoric all the while he was in office?




This is my opinion: The Republicans have shown themselves to be the most immature, spoiled sports I have ever seen. They are poor losers to say the least...I'm not often left speechless, but I find it hard to articulate the level of vehemence and sheer intent of retaliation that I've seen coming from the Right.


Nothing like the MSM attacking Bush on a daily basis. You won, we lost. We get it. Why is it liberals are the ones that bring up "race" and "Bush" in almost every thread about Obama?
Get over it.



Bush virtually stole his initial election, and still you didn't see Democrats react this poorly. The Republicans are in a panic because they have lost their power base. Anybody remember the Congressional redistricting practices in Texas and other states carried out by Republicans???
REPUBLICANS- YOU LOST BECAUSE IN THE EYES OF THE VOTING PUBLIC, YOU FAILED TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY PROPERLY, END OF STORY. Grow up, act like adults, and move on.


Again with the Bush thing. Leave it be and concentrate on what is going on now.




By the way, The Police and Fire services in our country are SOCIALIZED, as well as Public Education...check it out, nobody's whining about that.


I'd have to agree with you on education, and just LOOK at how disgusting our public schools are now? Yeah, thanks socialism. As for police and fire? Local taxes pay for that. Any federal funding is given to the local governments in "support" of on-going programs.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 03:19 PM
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loyaltoliberty.com...




One thing is becoming increasingly clear: the forces seeking to destroy constitutional self-government and impose socialism on the people of the United States appear to have underestimated the intelligence and will of the American people. The town hall uprisings have roused an arrogant, angry reaction from the Obama faction's political and media hacks. It reeks of surprised indignation. 'How dare these people prove more intelligent and feisty than we expected?' they seem to say. Their surprise more and more appears to be the only thing about them that is not insincere; that and their hunger for power.

It appears that many successful public figures in America have a quiet but deep contempt for the people whose support and adulation makes their apparent success possible. People who reach for fame and public applause often seem to suffer from a stubborn sense of vulnerable inferiority. They need public attention as an antidote to their own feelings of worthlessness. But as they receive the attention they crave, those feelings lead them to regard their own lives as a skillfully executed con game, in which they have sold hapless suckers stock in what they themselves feel to be a worthless enterprise. This leads them to conclude that people foolish enough to be manipulated into supporting and admiring them will fall for anything.




Alan Keyes

[edit on 033131p://bSunday2009 by Stormdancer777]



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 04:38 PM
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What I find funny about all this is that ont eh enws there are people screaming: WE WANT OUR AMERICA BACK!
I want ot see them say that to an Indian




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