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Who's behind the attacks on a health care overhaul?

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posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 05:15 PM

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by CuriousSkeptic

This nothing but comfortable people fearing they'll lose their comfort.

Maybe we can have a contest on ATS, and see if anyone can figure out what that babbling sentence you wrote means.

Easy. Just add an "is" after the initial "this" and it makes perfect sense, "Professor."

posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 12:37 PM
Another question comes to mind.....

Are the conservative talking heads getting any money from the anti HC businesses to promote their agenda.

posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 02:05 PM
I'm sure there is some big money behind the anti-health care reform movement. I'm equally sure that there is huge money behind the Obama/Pelosi/DNC plan. Sometimes, angry voters are simply angry voters. For years, people regarded as centrists or center-right voters didn't voice their opinions in public, except perhaps on talk radio. Think of all the times you've seen protests and demonstrations on TV/cable news. Until about two months ago, they were 99.8% left-wing, "Peace & Justice" types, no? Of course. Now, for the first time in living memory, conservatives feel threatened enough to go to town hall meetings and challenge their "representatives", and they are called thugs and Nazis by the very people who have benefitted for years from public disruption and agitation. I think all conservatives need to rush out and buy a copy of Saul Alinsky's book and turn the tables on the left. If it doesn't bother the left to use those tactics for "Peace and Justice", they can't complain about using them for "Individual Liberty"!
let's do a little math:
300 million Americans (give or take 12-15 million illegals)
30 million legal residents without health insurance
10% of Americans are not covered. Let's cover these Americans, paying as we go, and be done with it

posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:10 PM
Who's behind it? You ought to ask "Who's for it"

Aug. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Two firms that received $343.3 million to handle advertising for Barack Obama’s White House run last year have profited from his top priority as president by taking on his push for health-care overhaul.

One is AKPD Message and Media, the Chicago-based firm headed by David Axelrod until he left last Dec. 31 to serve as a senior adviser to the president. Axelrod was Obama’s top campaign strategist and is now helping sell the health-care plan. The other firm is Washington-based GMMB Campaign Group, where partner Jim Margolis was also an Obama strategist.

This year, AKPD and GMMB received $12 million in advertising business from Healthy Economy Now, a coalition that includes the Washington-based Pharmaceutical Research & Manufacturers of America, known as PhRMA, that is seeking to build support for a health-care overhaul, said the coalition’s spokesman, Jeremy Van Ess.

Hiring Obama’s campaign advisers makes sense, said Julius Hobson, a senior policy adviser in the Washington office of the St. Louis-based law firm, Bryan Cave LLP.

“If you’re in support of the president, then you use the people he used,” said Hobson, 61, who teaches a graduate course in lobbying at George Washington University in Washington.


HEN’s other members, according to its Web site, are the AARP, the biggest advocacy organization for retirees; the Advanced Medical Technology Association; the Business Roundtable; Families USA; the Service Employees International Union, all based in Washington, and the American Medical Association based in Chicago. PhRMA represents 28 drugmakers, including New York-based Pfizer Inc. and London-based GlaxoSmithKline Plc.

Larry Grisolano, a partner at AKPD, said his firm and GMMB are splitting the fees on the $12 million campaign, though neither firm would specify its take. In an e-mail, Margolis declined to comment.

Grisolano said an interview that the firm’s history with Obama made it “kind of a logical place to go” for the health- plan ad work.


Axelrod was president and sole shareholder of AKPD from 1985 until he sold his interest after Obama’s victory, government records show. The firm owes Axelrod $2 million, which it’s due to pay in installments beginning Dec. 31. Axelrod’s son, Michael, still works there. He didn’t return a phone call. The firm’s Web site continues to feature David Axelrod’s work on the Obama campaign.



(Meanwhile, AARP is still trying to figure out why 60,000 subscribers quit on them since July)

So... if the Medical industry is backing the protesters... why does the Bloomberg article seem to state other wise?

Its real simple people. The system is bloated due to unnecessary tests and procedures brought on by a massive fear of coming up on the short end of the stick if you get sued for malpractice. Medical Insurance is just one facet... there is also malpractice insurance. That's costly, and in order to stay out of court.. you have to take precautions.

We need Tort reform, not more CRYPTIC and ARCANE legislation.

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