NAVY Space Command Uncovered

reply to post by Exuberant1

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Well, it's not like they are launching with any exotic technology or anything. It's still conventional rockets. I would assume that the reason they are "classified" is that they are protecting trade secrets under contract from the manufacturer, or they are identical to certain engines used with the military. Whatever the reason, you can bet it is proprietary technology that's for sure, lol.

As to where, when and what they launch.....that is a little harder to pin down though.

Peoples spending too much time on the issue of how can they launch anything secret when you can see a rocket launch...

True but what is ON that rocket?

45th Wing Space Command just launched a 'secret' satellite of the PAN serious that had everyone up in arms... even had a cool patch... yet thsi was announced at Patrick way before the launch and Lockheed has all the data on the satellite

I am willing to bet that this was a cover up to hide something else that was launched Keep everyone busy looking the wrong way


As to 'secret' launches that would be from places not many people are watching, like the site the US Army was looking at in the early 60's in BRAZIL...

Or more likely one stage to orbit space planes dropped from an airplane

But heck if they really do have those anti gravity ships why would anyone think they would see them being launched... other than just another silly UFO report?

I find a few items amusing in this article but one to note is that when talking about a joint hypersonics venture a picture of a NAVY ship was used


www.aviationnews.eu...

UPDATE

Another facet of the NAVY Space Program reveals itself... under the not so deep cover of a NASA Project...

It is in reality a Naval Research Space Project...

To much for here so I started a new thread on just that topic, but needed to add it here for the overall NAVY Space Connection

People have argued over Chemtrails, HAARP, Shields around the planet...

Well today we have the TRUTH

And it was released publicly

NAVY and NASA - The REAL Chemtrails
www.abovetopsecret.com...

So is this thread dead? I have not seen any updates in quite some time.

Zorgon, I haven't heard back from you in regards to the private messages I sent.

Hope all is well!

I was stationed at NAS Miramar in the 70's. Rail guns were in use, even if only experimentally back then. I've seen these things shooting straight up and have wondered ever since, now I know.

From 1986 - 1999 Maxwell Technologies operated an Electric Gun Research & Development Facility (a.k.a. DNA 32-MJ Green Farm Test Facility), under the direction of the Defense Special Warfare Agency, Allied governments and commercial organizations, where they tested a high-tech electromagnetic rail gun that shot a large, plastic bullet-like projectile at extremely high velocities. The weapon was developed at Maxwell’s Kearny Mesa facility.

With a barrel about 38′ long, the rail gun used a quick burst of nitrogen to begin a series of electromagnetic pulses that would move a 9″ space-age plastic projectile, with a silver-plated base, through the barrel at a tremendous velocity that could penetrate tank armor. It is being developed as a space-deployed gun that could shoot down objects, like missiles.

The gun is so powerful that a 1/5-scale test of the prototype shot through all of the sandbags and phone books placed to stop it — and went straight into the foundation of the Maxwell building! The first test of the full-scale version ionized the air so much that radar went down as far away as Lindburgh Field! Testing of the electromagnetic rail gun was subsequently moved to a remote New Mexico location
from the following:
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reply to post by DJM8507

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No new data processed at the moment and I didn't see a pm from you :puz;

The 70's eh? Thanks for that little addition. We all know that what they have... and what they ell the public is about 30 years behind. Nice to have it confirmed

interesting info on railguns from navy.mil
New Railgun Electromagnetic Launch Facility Dedicated at NSWC Dahlgren



www.nswc.navy.mil...





you would think that showing us a peak of the actual railgun would not hurt.

zorgon, I sent you a U2U...

Just found this thread, didn't get a chance to read all the way through. Great thread, thanks for creating it Zorgon

It only seems natural to me that any long term space missions would be handled by the Navy, as many missions would require a vessel that operates independently for a long time, which is what the Navy has traditionally done, while the Air Force has only traditionally concentrated on short lasting missions measured in hours, not days and months.

A space vehicle like the space station would have to be fairly independent, make repairs and all that underway, like a ocean going ship.

From what I read about how the tether works, lift is created by the long wires crossing the gravity field, not exposure to sunlight.

This makes me wonder if a tether could be used to pull a load up into space. Say a very long tether is created, where by some method one end is carried to an extremely high altitude, while the other end is attached to a load on the surface of Earth. I don't know if tether technology would work like this, only speculating. If this was possible, it would completely change the way loads could be carried into space.

great job zorgon....finally something intelligent to research...keep up the great work

Here are a few pictures of the Clementine project back in 1994, I thought you might be interested, They are large pics sorry.
Hump

Mission Statement
The recent interpretation of data from the Clementine spacecraft mission, a joint Ballistic Missile Defense Organization/NASA venture, has revealed that deposits of ice could exist in permanently dark regions near the South Pole of the Moon. Initial estimates suggest that the ice deposit area is the size of small lake (60 to 120 thousand cubic meters), and that the lunar crater containing the ice deposit has a depth greater than the height of Mount Everest, and a rim circumference twice the size of Puerto Rico. The discovery of ice on the Moon has enormous implications for the potential return of humans to the Moon's surface and the establishment of a permanent lunar station. The lunar ice could be mined and dissociated into hydrogen and oxygen by electric power provided by solar panels or a nuclear generator, providing both breathable oxygen and potable water for the permanent station on the Moon. Hydrogen and oxygen are also prime components of rocket motor fuel and could potentially result in the establishment of a lunar filling station making transport to or from the Moon more economical by at least a factor of ten. The Clementine spacecraft was launched aboard a Titan II missile from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., on Jan. 25, 1994. Its primary military mission was to qualify lightweight sensor and camera technology for possible application for ballistic missile defense programs, but it also demonstrated a capability for low-cost, high-value space exploration missions.

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Launch from Vandenberg
The Clementine spacecraft is launched aboard a Titan II missile from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., in this Jan. 25, 1994, file photograph. The recent interpretation of data from the Clementine spacecraft mission, a joint Ballistic Missile Defense Organization/NASA venture, has revealed that deposits of ice could exist in permanently dark regions near the South Pole of the Moon. Initial estimates suggest that the ice deposit area is the size of small lake (60 to 120 thousand cubic meters), and that the lunar crater containing the ice deposit has a depth greater than the height of Mount Everest, and a rim circumference twice the size of Puerto Rico. The discovery of ice on the Moon has enormous implications for the potential return of humans to the Moon's surface and the establishment of a permanent lunar station. The lunar ice could be mined and dissociated into hydrogen and oxygen by electric power provided by solar panels or a nuclear generator, providing both breathable oxygen and potable water for the permanent station on the Moon. Hydrogen and oxygen are also prime components of rocket motor fuel and could potentially result in the establishment of a lunar filling station transport to or from the Moon more economical by at least a factor of ten. The Clementine spacecraft's primary military mission was to qualify lightweight sensor and camera technology for possible application for ballistic missile defense programs, but it also demonstrated a capability for low-cost, high-value space exploration missions.

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Clementine Satellite
The Clementine satellite undergoes final checks in this 1993 photograph. The satellite was built by the staff of the Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, D.C. The recent interpretation of data from the Clementine spacecraft mission, a joint Ballistic Missile Defense Organization/NASA venture, has revealed that deposits of ice could exist in permanently dark regions near the South Pole of the Moon. Initial estimates suggest that the ice deposit area is the size of small lake (60 to 120 thousand cubic meters), and that the lunar crater containing the ice deposit has a depth greater than the height of Mount Everest, and a rim circumference twice the size of Puerto Rico. The discovery of ice on the Moon has enormous implications for the potential return of humans to the Moon's surface and the establishment of a permanent lunar station. The lunar ice could be mined and dissociated into hydrogen and oxygen by electric power provided by solar panels or a nuclear generator, providing both breathable oxygen and potable water for the permanent station on the Moon. Hydrogen and oxygen are also prime components of rocket motor fuel and could potentially result in the establishment of a lunar filling station making transport to or from the Moon more economical by at least a factor of ten. The Clementine spacecraft was launched aboard a Titan II missile from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., on Jan. 25, 1994. Its primary military mission was to qualify lightweight sensor and camera technology for possible application for ballistic missile defense programs, but it also demonstrated a capability for low-cost, high-value space exploration missions. DoD photo.

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Clementine Orbits
The recent interpretation of data from the Clementine spacecraft mission, a joint Ballistic Missile Defense Organization/NASA venture, has revealed that deposits of ice could exist in permanently dark regions near the South Pole of the Moon. Initial estimates suggest that the ice deposit area is the size of small lake (60 to 120 thousand cubic meters), and that the lunar crater containing the ice deposit has a depth greater than the height of Mount Everest, and a rim circumference twice the size of Puerto Rico. The discovery of ice on the Moon has enormous implications for the potential return of humans to the Moon's surface and the establishment of a permanent lunar station. The lunar ice could be mined and dissociated into hydrogen and oxygen by electric power provided by solar panels or a nuclear generator, providing both breathable oxygen and potable water for the permanent station on the Moon. Hydrogen and oxygen are also prime components of rocket motor fuel and could potentially result in the establishment of a lunar filling station making transport to or from the Moon more economical by at least a factor of ten. The Clementine spacecraft was launched aboard a Titan II missile from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., on Jan. 25, 1995. Its primary military mission was to qualify lightweight sensor and camera technology for possible application for ballistic missile defense programs, but it also demonstrated a capability for low-cost, high-value space exploration missions. DoD graphic. (Released)

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Just one more thing,

A full-scale model of the Boeing X-45C Joint Unmanned Combat Air Systems sits on the flight line, May 14, 2005, as a static display at the 2005 Air Power over Hampton Roads air show held on Langley Air Force Base, Va. Assembly of this revolutionary aircraft began in June 2004 and it is scheduled to make its first flight in 2007.

How is the secret space program working in Australia ?

reply to post by warrenb

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Without reading the entire thread to see if anyone answered you (the one reply I saw didn't seem to be actually answering your question) I thought I'd try listing a few possibles:

1. Weather satellite owners
   
2. GPS satellite owners
   
3. communications satelite owners
   
4. ground based optical telescope owners
   
5. ground based radio telescope owners
   
6. non-USA satellite launching facilities (France, Japan, China, India, Russia, etc)
   

I expect there are a lot of folks interested in space junk that is in the vicinity of where their equipment is going or is looking. It isn't at all surprising.

Im sure theres a host of other alphabet agencies that run the show