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NAVY Space Command Uncovered

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posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 04:06 PM
reply to post by Focus6

The dragon being representative of NRO, and SIGINT payloads comes from someone who would know, Dwayne Day.

It is an aside from NAVY Space Command, which will stand on it's own soon.

It contains no letters or numbers of any kind, just the image of a dragon with the Earth in its talons. The dragon is holding a diamond with its tail. This patch probably symbolizes the rocket’s payload. But could a dragon somehow be symbolic for the program itself? Alternatively, could the diamond refer to the name of the program?
It turns out that this is not the first time that a launch patch has featured this symbolism. Five years earlier, on 8 May 1998, Titan 4B-25 launched from Cape Canaveral. Like B-36, the Titan also featured an 86-foot launch shroud and flew to geosynchronous orbit, and independent observers speculated that both launches carried similar signals intelligence satellite payloads.

The dragon is a symbol for a class of high altitude signals intelligence satellites originally developed under the name Rhyolite.
Once again those involved in the launch produced two patches, apparently one for the launch team and another to symbolize the payload. The launch patch featured another Air Force bomber, this time the B-25, and also a rising sun logo, symbolizing the famous 1942 B-25 raid on Tokyo.

More good reading and clues to follow here:

Headquartered at Dahlgren, Va., Naval Space Command began operations Oct. 1, 1983. Naval Space Command uses the medium of space and its potential to provide essential information and capabilities to shore and afloat naval forces by a variety of means:

Operating surveillance, navigation, communication, environmental, and information systems;
Advocating naval warfighting requirements in the joint arena; and
Advising, supporting, and assisting the naval services through training, and by developing space plans, programs, policies, concepts, and doctrine.

[edit on 19-8-2009 by burntheships]

posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 04:15 PM
I really wish these guys would stop plastering their names on these badges...

They don't own the copyright on them and taking a picture of an existing object without doing artwork on the image is NOT copyrightable

posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 04:19 PM
reply to post by zorgon

Look up...

First, Naval Space Command operates a surveillance network of nine field stations located across the southern U.S. Three transmitter sites in the network are located at Jordan Lake, Ala., Lake Kickapoo, Texas, and Gila River, Ariz. Six receiver sites are located at Tattnall, Ga., Hawkinsville, Ga., Silver Lake, Miss., Red River, Ark., Elephant Butte, N.M., and San Diego, Calif.

These surveillance stations produce a "fence" of electromagnetic energy that can detect objects out to an effective range of 15,000 nautical miles.

Over one million satellite detections, or observations, are collected by this surveillance network each month. Data gathered is transmitted to a computer center at Naval Space Command headquarters in Dahlgren, where it is used to constantly update a data base of spacecraft orbital elements. This information is reported to Fleet and Fleet Marine Forces to alert them when particular satellites of interest are overhead. The command also maintains a catalog of all earth-orbiting satellites and supports USSPACECOM as part of the nation's worldwide Space Surveillance Network...

posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 04:41 PM
reply to post by burntheships

Nice links and great work on tracking those badges... It filled several blanks I had with data

Also editing posts to add is what I do a lot when I do these long posts so its always good to look back

Electromagnetic railgun: —a "Navy after next" game changer first test of electromagnetic railgun facility is a success

The next generation of naval guns was launched Oct. 2, 2006, with the successful test and stand up of an electromagnetic (EM) railgun facility at the Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division (NSWCDD) Laboratory.

So the railgun is at Dahlgren and the patch I showed earlier shows it in space.

So lets follow the trail...

Railguns are not a new concept. Railgun research in the United States has been ongoing for more than two decades. In the 1980s, railgun research was conducted under the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) in an effort to develop the space-based intercept of intercontinental ballistic missiles.

So what happened to all that old research and equipment?

It is the refurbished SDI launcher that is currently installed at NSWC Dahlgren, while the program awaits delivery in June 2007 of a gun being built by BAE Systems. The new gun is a "laboratory" version with removable rails that weighs in at 40 tons, according to Garnett.

Seems Star Wars is alive and well at Dhalgren

Curious coice of wording that..

The next generation of naval guns was launched Oct. 2 2006

[edit on 19-8-2009 by zorgon]

posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 04:53 PM
reply to post by zorgon

Thanks...And yes curious choice of wording...sometimes they try to hide in plain sight.

Take a look at this:

The Office of Naval Research’s EMRG program is part of the Department of the Navy’s Science and Technology investments, and involves a broad consortium of partners. ONR has facilitated a key partnership between leading scientists and engineers that also includes people from Boeing, Charles Stark Draper Lab, Inc., General Atomics, the US Department of Energy’s Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, the US Naval Academy, the US Naval Postgraduate School, US Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) PMS-500, Naval Surface Warfare Center’s Carderock and Dahlgren Divisions, the US Army, and the United Kingdom.

If the rail gun passes its planned 2009 review, and the technology is deemed mature enough to continue, Phase I is expected to end in 2011. Phase 2 would end in FY 2015 if all goes well thereafter, and will focus on developing the projectile.

April 15/09: General Atomics in San Diego, CA received $22.1 million for a cost plus fixed fee task order under a previously awarded contract (N00014-06-D-0056, #0005) for technology development and design of an EM Rail Gun. The firm is also he main contractor for the Navy’s EMALS electro-magnetic catapult for aircraft carriers, which uses similar principles to a different end.

Also found a very interesting mention of The Naval Space Command
in a book titled The U.S. intelligence community By Jeffrey Richelson.

Google Books

[edit on 19-8-2009 by burntheships]

posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 05:10 PM
reply to post by burntheships

That dragon I have...

posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 05:17 PM
reply to post by zorgon

Thanks! I have a few more, and although I know they are not hard and fast proof, more lke the icing on the cake...

As you said, they sometimes give away secrets! That is the fun of them.

More on the Navy's Rail Guns...


More on NAVY Space Command:

As an Echelon 2 command,Naval Space Command reports directly to the Director of Space and Electronic Warfare (N-6) and the Director of Naval Warfare (N-7). Our tasking to support Marine Corps forces comes through the staff of the Commandant of the Marine Corps. In addition, Fleet commanders-in-chief are authorized a direct line of communication with the command for requesting specific operational support.

Naval Space Command also serves as the naval service component of the United States Space Command (USSPACECOM), established in 1985. Component responsibilities include operating assigned space systems to provide surveillance and warning, as well as providing spacecraft telemetry and on-orbit engineering support.

Site page says infomation is current as of 1995. The direct link to The Naval Space Command does not work.

[edit on 19-8-2009 by burntheships]

posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 05:52 PM
reply to post by zorgon

Great find! I will spend some nights reading about this.

Trying to explain to average Joes and Janes is a bit tricky. Most refuse to accept logic because CNN told them otherwise. Perhaps with your posting, I can convince nay-sayers to accept the facts and the possbility.

posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 10:57 PM
reply to post by zorgon

Very illuminating,,,

OBJECTIVE: The goal of this project was to develop four spacecraft laboratories at NPS: FLTSATCOM Laboratory,
Spacecraft Test Laboratory, Spacecraft Dynamics and Control Laboratory, and Spacecraft Design Laboratory. It is a continuing

SUMMARY: During the reporting period, significant progress has been made in several areas. In the Spacecraft Attitude
Dynamics and Control Laboratory, implementation of the SPACE Real Time Control System on the NPS Flexible Spacecraft
Simulator (FSS) has been successfully completed and the FSS has been made operational. The Computational Spacecraft
Design Laboratory was upgraded both in hardware and software, including Pro/ENGINEER, Pro/Mechanica, MSC/
Nastran and COSMOS/M Engineer. Three spacecraft design projects were completed. The mission for the first project was
to investigate three asteroids in the main belts. The project was done under AIAA/Lockheed Martin Graduate Competition
and won second position. The second project was on a medium earth orbit UHF satellite constellation. This project was
sponsored by the Naval Space Command and was in direct support of DoD’s effort to analyze alternative solutions for the
replacement of the UHF Follow-on (UFO) constellation.
The third project was EHF satellite with a classified payload.....

.....Agrawal, B., Song, G., and Buck, N., “Slew Maneuvers of Flexible Spacecraft Using Input Shaping and Pulse-Width Pulse-
Frequency Modulated Thrusters,” IAF-97-A.2.09, Proceedings of the 48th International Astronautical Congress, Turin,
Italy, 6-10 October 1997

Rudolf Panholzer, Professor
Space Systems Academic Group
Sponsor: Naval Space Command

Rudolf Panholzer, Professor
Craig Baldwin, Naval Space Systems Academic Chair
Space Systems Academic Group
Sponsor: Naval Space Command

posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 11:07 PM
A taste of fiction or a glimpse of truth - The NAVY in the new transformers movie demonstrated a weapon which may soon exist:

(obviously the railgun is cgi, but it shows where we are headed)

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 11:18 AM
How long until we see portable lasers mounted on the space worms?

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:24 PM

Originally posted by LSWONE
How long until we see portable lasers mounted on the space worms?

It will be a while... seems it hit budget snags

Giant Blimp Deflated; Laser Jet Delayed

Take the High-Altitude Airship, for instance. Just a year ago, the Pentagon handed Lockheed a $150 million contract to build the missile-spotting dirigible. No, it wouldn't be 25 times bigger than the Goodyear Blimp, as originally planned. Nor would it be powered by lasers. But it would still be built to "hover above the jet stream at an altitude of 65,000 feet for months at a time."

The Airborne Laser -- the modified 747, meant to zap missiles as they take off -- still gets more than $500 million in the new budget. But its first live-fire test has been delayed, again. Originally scheduled for 2002, the blast has now been rescheduled for 2009,

Well at least that is what they say...

Navy Wants Lots of Lasers

Planes, Copters, Blimps ... Navy Wants Lots of Lasers. laser.jpg. The Office of Naval Research held its annual partnership with industry conference...

OH and these are bigger than your worms
You guts aren't stringing light on those are you?

[edit on 20-8-2009 by zorgon]

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 08:31 PM
reply to post by zorgon

You know the laser in the desert has not been parked lately?

As for the picture above, did you notice the color they painted the hangar?

I may have read somewhere, don't remember where, that smaller lasers, the size of a van (power supply included) are under research.

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 08:43 PM
Great post and very enlightening. Keep up the good work. I would love to know if anyone has video of the 'secret' mission take offs though. Surely there has to be something tangible out there. Don't get me wrong, I believe, just always looking for proof to back up my believes.

I'm new to ATS and thank 'God' they have a no 'TXT talk' rule... That really does my head in!

posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:51 AM

Originally posted by The Monkey Army I would love to know if anyone has video of the 'secret' mission take offs though.

Well... every secret space shuttle mission was filmed and on the evening news

Its just what was IN them that you didn't see
Rockets are being launched all the time from many sites around the world... but do we know what is in them all? That's [classified]

posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 01:16 AM

Originally posted by LSWONE
As for the picture above, did you notice the color they painted the hangar?

Pfft they got nothing on Kirtland AFB

+34 57 24.32, -106 28 35.76

Wonder what that machine is that is bigger than a house
The white tube is a tunnel insert

Edit to add OH WOW
I just spotted something HUGE at Kirtland DAMN all under camo netting
THAT wasn't there before

I may have read somewhere, don't remember where, that smaller lasers, the size of a van (power supply included) are under research.

Pfft research?
They been using them in Iraq

MTHEL - Mobile Tactical High Energy Laser

I hear the NAVY ordered a bunch to use on 'ships'


Your gonna have to do better than that

So ummm where in the desert did you say they left that thing?

posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 09:39 AM
reply to post by zorgon

I thought you would recognize the hangar in the pic.

The laser, no bigger than a car, was parked not to far from the blimp.

posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 11:02 PM

Originally posted by LSWONE
The laser, no bigger than a car, was parked not to far from the blimp.

Oops sorry... mind was elsewhere... something I best tell ya via U2U

Naval Center for Space Technology - Code 8000

To preserve and enhance a strong space technology base and provide expert assistance in the development and acquisition of space systems for naval missions, activities of the Naval Center for Space Technology extend from basic and applied research through advanced development in all areas of Navy space program interest. These activities include developing spacecraft, systems using these spacecraft, and ground command and control stations.

The Center is a focal point and integrator for NRL divisions whose technologies are used in space systems. The Center also provides systems engineering and technical direction assistance to system acquisition managers of major space systems. In this role, technology transfer is a major goal that motivates a continuous search for new technologies and capabilities and the development of prototypes that demonstrate the integration of such technologies.

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posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 11:13 PM
Advanced Tether Experiment

(Image courtesy of the NAVY)

Following the successful operation of the Tether Physics and Survivability (Tips) satellite (June 1996 to the present), the Naval Center for Space Technology (NCST) designed and built the Advanced Tether Experiment (ATEx). ATEx had three mission objectives:

- Demonstrate tether system stability and control.
- Demonstrate end-body attitude determination and control.
- Fly a tether designed for survivability.

ATEx was hosted on the Space Technology Experiment (STEX) satellite. STEX was injected into planned orbit on October 3, 1998 from Vandenberg, California on board a Taurus rocket. Taurus injected into approximately a 370 NM altitude, 85 degree inclination, near circular orbit. STEX is in its mission orbit of about 406 NM circular altitude.

The ATEx deployment began 16 January 1999 at 23:06 UT and ended 18 minutes later. The ATEx tether pair was jettisoned from the STEX spacecraft after deploying only 22 meters. The jettison was triggered by an automatic protection system designed to save STEX if the tether began to stray from its expected departure angle. The failure is currently being investigated. (Warning: .mil link)

Thanks for posting that link. I'm already stuck in

[edit on 21-8-2009 by Exuberant1]

posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 04:57 AM
reply to post by zorgon

Have you looked into the Laser Wakefield technology?

That's pretty wild stuff.

Anybody want a synchrotron in a pizza box?

PS... Sorry about all the edits. The changes wouldn't "stick".

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