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NAVY Space Command Uncovered

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posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 01:53 PM

Originally posted by tauristercus
"Non-terrestrial officers" ... really ?

"Non-terrestrial officers" as in officers not serving in terrestrial positions. Even Gary made that point clear but no one is really listening to what he ACTUALLY said

All I have on anything ET related that to ME confirms it are these two references..

Thanks, Ron. I got a kick out of reading your note! YES..MIB's do exist. Did you get a chance to read my story about the 'visitor' I met at MacDill? He had 2 sets of eyelids...honestly...reptilian! I about # my pants when I saw his eyes...never forget them!

Have a great week...good things just around the cornerQ!

MacDill is MacDill AFB, the speaker ho;ds 23 top secret patents and the 'MIB' was wearing AF Officer's uniform. The 'story' is a 520 page document
And no you cannot have a copy

The other is from Jack Arneson who since this contact has become military researcher at Pegasus and also has his own site (as I can't update fast enough

Well....You probably have a pretty good idea about me by now, and I said: "C'mon Captain, we all saw that thing last night, and it wasn't any kind of aircraft we've ever seen. What was it...and who's"? We all were looking directly at him, then curiously, like something’s not right with this guy, like he didn't seem to be alive. Kind of a waxy face, almost plastic or mannequin like and strange light green color eyes and wearing black gloves in 95 degree heat in a full dress uniform with no name tag. And not sweating!

He said: "I don't know what you're talking about, now get back to your units"! After what we saw the night before and the crap from the AP's, I was getting pissed. And when I saw he wasn't armed, when everybody we saw was, I wanted answers. I still had my M-16 in my hands. I made a kind of threatening move by wrapping my hand around the grip and trigger and said point blank: "Why are you wearing black leather gloves in this heat and not sweating"?

He didn't answer. I clicked off the safety. It seemed like if you were a mile away, you would have heard that click. He twitched at this and looked at the weapon then me. He knew I wasn't impressed with his rank. Nobody moved. Like time stopped. It was uncannily quiet. He was about five feet in front of me. And I thought: "If he makes a move towards me, I'm going to cut him in half".

He took two slow steps backwards and turned to head back to his jeep. First, he would have jumped down my throat for not saying "Sir" if he was a Captain. Then I would have been standing before a court martial for handling a weapon in a threatening manner. Third, he started back to his jeep (with no driver) and no response.

I was going to stop him but the MS was really freaked out by this time and ran up to me and said: "Are you crazy? What are you doing"?

I protested and said: "Sarge, this guy's an impostor, can't you see that? Everybody else might be dead"!

He said: "You may be right but I'll find out what's going on when we get back. Don't take the chance of a court martial for threatening an officer"!

I remember say something like: "I already did that and if he's an officer, then I'm an alien"! The "Captain" heard that and turned back and looked at me with black eyes! It sent a shivering chill up my spine upon seeing this and said: "Did you see that? Look at him! His eyes are black now"!

I started to raise my weapon at him and tell him to stop and the MS got in front of me and said: "Stand down soldier, that's an order"!

His whole story is here..

Now as I said these two convinced ME... take what you will from their stories.

Now those two would indeed be 'Non Terrestrial Officers" in your sense of the words but these two were AF not NAVY

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 02:11 PM

Originally posted by tauristercus
I just don't know Zorgon ...

I would like to believe that we have bases on the moon and actively mining material there ...
I would like to believe that aliens actually exist to the extent that they've been integrated into a human organization ...
I would like to believe that we've had interplanetary capable hardware for decades ...
I would like to believe that we have human outposts/bases/mining operations on a Jupiter moon ...

Well the difference between you and me is that while you would LIKE to believe, I want to KNOW...

In that pursuit I follow leads and pursue actively what I can to satisfy myself. In that process I share what I find, in the hopes others will step forward and help my quest (and boy has this thread prodded the hornets nest

Unlike all the whistle blowers out there, I make no absolute claims, nor do I sell books (yeah I know how dumb is that)... all I can do is share pieces of the puzzle and hope others will provide more.

I also have no intention of violating any National security issues in my quest. As someone once pointed out I spend more time at .mil sites then most people spend at porn sites
but I use public doorways, albeit many are hard to find...

Let's say for example I gave you some names that I 'suspect' are in the 'secret' corp... what good would it do you? What would you do with that info? And who are you anyway? For all I know you could have been sent to see what I really know
This is a public forum and is international. I have no way of knowing who anyone is unless they ID themselves (as several have already done here).


I cannot do that... it is up to YOU to follow the crumbs and find your own answers, because if you don't find it yourself, you will NEVER believe what anyone tells you.

Three years ago I came to ATS... I had no contacts in this 'field' I was merely interested in Ancient astronauts and stargates... now three years later my contact list is most impressive. If it wasn't for that, I would have stopped a long time ago

You want to believe? Write to the key players... many are easy to talk to...

But all too many times I see here at ATS how 'insiders' are treated... by those who 'want to believe'... then they wonder why those people wish to remain confidential when they share something. Many will say a lot more privately than they will on TV... you just have to ask

But in the end, if you don't look at the evidence, and follow the trail to see the connections yourself you will never see the big picture

Yes the Joint Space Command exists and is also huge... I would do a thread on that but most likely it would be boring
so I may just add my links into a post here... haven't decided yet.

Maybe take a vote
it would take a day or two to post

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Manawydan
That would be a joke no doubt. "All your base are belong to us" has been a common strategy video games joke since 1991.

Well those designing mission patches are very good at 'joking'

Like this one...

This is a REAL UNIT... the 'Alien' is a 'joke'

n 1977 Congress directed the establishment of Air Force TENCAP with three primary missions: exploiting space systems for tactical applications through rapid prototyping projects; influencing the design of future space systems for tactical applications; and educating warfighters about the capabilities and tactical utility of space systems. The SWC serves as the executive agent of AF TENCAP on behalf of warfighters and is teamed with the Space Applications Project Office to develop and provide support to Air Force agencies and the Combat and Mobility Air Forces. AF TENCAP demonstrates leading edge space technologies with potential to enhance combat capabilities of units in the field and transitions these combat systems to warfighters in a timelier manner than through traditional acquisition processes. AF TENCAP is responsible for keeping abreast of the latest technologies and influencing emerging space systems to make them more supportive of fielded combat forces.

And this one...

This was also a REAL MISSION PATCH... the 'joke' in this one is that they gave away the shape, the number and the actual orbits of the four top secret LaCross spy satellites

Now then anyone care to tackle the issue of the Five and the One?

Hint... its represented in the Dragon patch as well as several other black ops patches

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 02:46 PM
5 stars + 1 star = 51 ?

I would love to chat sometime about my experiences with you. I am reluctant to post most on here due to such criticism. I have spoken to a half dozen or so reliable individuals who have spent entire careers in the military, contracting, or GS / SES sides of the Government. Some interesting stories to tell.

I can't figure out how to send you a U2U though...

[edit on 17-8-2009 by DJM8507]

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 02:50 PM

Originally posted by kinda kurious
Not that it matters any longer but..........

Oh it matters my friend
You see that page is a graphic and as such a text search for 'navy' OR 'naval' would not show up as it does not see the text in an image

Thanks for posting it I was going to later.

Seems that those who 'would LIKE to believe' need to open their eyes lest we assume they are on a 'mission'

One thing though that everyone should be concerned about.. all the branches of Space Command use these words in mission statements



"Dominating the space dimension of military operations to protect US interest and investment."

"Integrating Space Forces into warfighting capabilities..."

"The Space Force Mission is to defend the United States through the control and exploitation of space. Air Force Space Command makes space reliable to the warfighter (i.e. forces personnel) by continuously improving the command's ability to provide and support combat forces"

"The Space Innovation & Development Center (SIDC), formerly the Space Warfare Center (SWC), is a military unit of the United States Air Force. It is directly under Air Force Space Command (AFSPC) and resides at Schriever Air Force Base, Colorado. The SIDC includes the AF Space Battlelab"

"The Space Innovation and Development Center at Schriever Air Force Base, Colo., is "unlocking the potential" as premier innovators, integrators and operational testers of air, space and cyberspace power to the warfighter. The center's mission is to advance full-spectrum warfare through rapid innovation, integration, training testing, and experimentation. "

Air Force Space Battlelab (SB)

"The mission of the Space Battlelab is to transform space capabilities into solutions for today’s warfighting problems. Through networking with industry, academia, and service laboratories, SB leverages leading edge space technology to enhance Air Force core competencies."

Naval Space Command

"NAVSPACECOM manages naval space activities and operates space systems while focusing on warfighter support. In addition, it leverages National, DoD and civil space resources to guarantee that the naval warfighter gets the maximum utility out of space-based resources."

All the above quotes are from the official fact sheets. I will have those linked as soon as I get my pages cleaned up and debugged but you can visit ANY space command site and see the same things

NEVER do I see words like the peaceful use of space for all mankind

This is an awful lot of manpower, money (trillions) hard ware and superior technology just for the boys to be playing 'wargames' In the end if that were all there was, we should be demanding our money back

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 02:52 PM
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'send message' button on the bottom of anyone's post.

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Tifozi
The color of the seats is the same, and by the angle of the photo, it has to be a 2-pilot plane, so, I think it's a B-1. But the information on the photo isn't enough for me. lol

Thanks for that, seems Weedwacker thinks so as well. That works for me

Originally posted by LSWONE
Those are a dime a dozen. LOL! See how there are fewer Ninjas. One Ninja for ever 20-30 whites.

Hey listen... see that rolled paper in that one ninja suit? Any chance of that 'slipping' out of his pocket?

[edit on 17-8-2009 by zorgon]

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 03:37 PM

Originally posted by DJM8507
5 stars + 1 star = 51 ?

That was brought up in several patches thread... and seems the easy answer except that Area 51, while it may deal with 'alien issues' is mostly a black ops aircraft center... not where the 'secret space program' operates from (that would be Navy at China Lake and AF at Kirtland)

Not only that if you trace older patches you get...

The Three and the One

The Four and the One

The two above 'may' show the launch of the fifth

The Five and the One

Many times the 'One" is the Eagle or 'Aquila'

I have many more... one shows the 'One" as a RED star...

So watching the progression I don't believe it indicates Area 51

[edit on 17-8-2009 by zorgon]

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 03:48 PM
Whew, just a minor break from the "technical" aspects to pay homage and thanks to Zorgon once again.

Above, an updated version of: "The Spiritual Pilgrim Discovering Another World” as it was described in C. G. Jung's “Flying Saucers: A Modern Myth” in Civilization in Transition.

In an attempt to help mankind find its way back to a more comprehensive view of the totality of his soul, Jung and physicist and Nobel laureate Wolfgang Pauli postulated a world behind or beyond, split into inner and outer world, into psyche and matter.

Jung emphasized the importance of balance and harmony, and cautioned that modern humans rely too heavily on science and logic, and would benefit from integrating spirituality and appreciation of the unconscious realm.

Z man, you are on the edge. I am certain that great things are around the corner. Keep pushing the envelope and keep the naysayers at bay with your supreme logic and selfless sharing.

You handle the skeptics with aplomb. Imagine how Copernicus and Galileo felt.
You are an inspiration to many of us. Never political, always forthright and witty to bat.

And even though you don't care, here's a few more tokens of appreciation from a huge and loyal fan.....................

Now about that nose gear and ejection seat. . . .

Regards. . . KK

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 03:52 PM
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That's not a rolled piece of paper. Its the cuff at the end of the sleeve. Some are dark, and some are light.

If you can get passed the guard shack, I will show you.

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 04:58 PM

Originally posted by zorgon
Well those designing mission patches are very good at 'joking'

Nice examples, thank you. Though I don't really see the same type of a joke as in the one mentioned before. Sure a picture of an alien might be amusing to some, but I wouldn't really call it a punch line. That said, everything is possible, so it very well could be a real patch. If it is, I'd like to join their ranks... for entertainment value if nothing else.

Respectfully, M.

[edit on 17-8-2009 by Manawydan]

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 06:11 PM
Thanks once again, for the information.

I do agree with Zorgon in that I want to know for certain. Skeptics seem to act like they are hired to reduce collateral damage and to keep people confused.

I can accept that there is nothing going on, and had done for years. Logic seems to be pulling me in the direction that we have been hoodwinked and lied to for years, but reality may show it to be much longer than that.

I did see a UFO in Feb 1969. I even gave up on that being ET craft, but after reading some of John's work on ATS, and now this thread, it likely was part of this mysterious on going secret space program I witnessed back in 1969.

What ever it was the 3 of us saw, was probably something to do with all of this. It was definately a UFO because we supposedly don't have that capability yet.... or do we?

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 06:27 PM

Originally posted by LSWONE
reply to post by zorgon


That's not a rolled piece of paper. Its the cuff at the end of the sleeve. Some are dark, and some are light.

If you can get passed the guard shack, I will show you.

Hey, you spoil the fun! Zorgon's explanation was much more exciting.

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 06:58 PM
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posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 07:35 PM
reply to post by there once was a man

Thanks for that

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 07:39 PM
As I see it the Navy would be involved because they do know without a doubt that Alien/ Alien ships go in and out of our waters. Unfortunately they are in the deepest of our waters and we don't have anything that can reach them.

The Alien ships collect many things from Earth and take them off Planet.

It wouldn't surprise one bit if these Beings control many Military, Doctor's and Scientist without there knowledge. I have seen Humans on my travels but they did seem controlled as I was also to an extent but I am allowed to remember because of the Soul within me.

Zorgon is doing a great job and I just wanted to say before I forget I got that Pegasus on the Hanger and the Craft

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 10:11 PM

Firstly, I take offense at your insinuation that I have some kind of personal "agenda" with Zorgan or alternatively, that I am "targeting" him deliberately in a negative way.

Yes I said "target", but I never insinuated/implied that it was a negative targeting or that you have an agenda. I did try a little something though with the way I worded it. I wanted to see if it would strike a nerve. I think I hit that nerve.

Ever since I said that, you've felt the need to mention something like: "and by me asking this I'm not attacking or targeting" when you asked Zorgon something. If there wasn't truth in what I said, you wouldn't feel the need to bring that up each time you asked a question. Keep in mind I never once said you had an agenda, that was all you

I had more to say about this, but anyone who can see the difference in how you're posting now, compared to how you posted before my last post, can see what I was going for. For you yourself to show what your real intention is.

I wanted to bring up how quiet you get when Zorgon answers your questions and then adds even more that you didn't see coming. Gotta love when Zorgon does things like that

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 10:26 PM
First off, great thread Z.

I think that there's an exception to that 5 star 1 star deal.

The other day I got behind a Subaru at a red light and and laughed when I took a better look at the emblem.

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 10:39 PM

Originally posted by observe50Unfortunately they are in the deepest of our waters and we don't have anything that can reach them.

You sure about that?

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 10:49 PM

Originally posted by dreb13
I think that there's an exception to that 5 star 1 star deal.
The other day I got behind a Subaru at a red light and and laughed when I took a better look at the emblem.

Exception to the Rule? Are you positive? You may not laugh so hard in a minute...

Perhaps after this you will understand their ARE NO COINCIDENCES and its all part of the bigger picture...

Subaru of America, Inc., (SOA), is the exclusive United States marketer of Subaru products manufactured by Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. of Japan. Headquartered in Cherry Hill, N.J., SOA serves nearly 600 dealers nationwide.

'SUBARU' is a Japanese word meaning 'unite', as well as a term identifying a cluster of six stars, which the Greeks called the Pleiades - part of the Taurus constellation.

Pleiades...imagine that...

Still laughing?

Best known for its Subaru automobiles, FHI also manufactures commercial and military aircraft and aircraft parts, engines and machinery, buses and rolling stock.

FHI has four divisions that support each other in technological research and advancement:
- Aerospace: This division is a major contractor of aircraft, helicopters, target drones and related parts and services to the Defense Agency of Japan. Sales of the Aerospace Division are both commercial and defense-related. These products are marketed domestically to the Defense Agency as well as United States markets.

So who is laughing now?

Brightest stars in Pleiades
A map of the Pleiades

The nine brightest stars of the Pleiades are named for the Seven Sisters of Greek mythology: Sterope, Merope, Electra, Maia, Taygete, Celaeno, and Alcyone, along with their parents Atlas and Pleione. As daughters of Atlas, the Hyades were sisters of the Pleiades. The English name of the cluster itself is of Greek origin, though of uncertain etymology. Suggested derivations include: from πλεîν plein, to sail, making the Pleiades the "sailing ones"

Other notable names of Pleiades include:
(al-Thurayya) in Arabic
Subaru in Japanese
Matariki in Maori
Kṛttikā in Sanskrit


[edit on 17-8-2009 by zorgon]

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