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Originally posted by Dbriefed
Health care is not a right. Healthcare is a science developed by man. It's science leveraged by technology that is paid for with money. Any science and technology costs money. Just because the science exists doesn't mean it belongs to everyone and the labor of applying that science should be free.
My paycheck is mine. I am not obligated to share it with anyone. The government forcibly takes their 'taste' of my salary before I can get my share of my paycheck. I am not obligated to share my hard earned salary with beggars, drug addicts, or others.
There are 140 Million employed people in the US.
There are 305 Million people living in the US.
How much of the salary of the 140 Million people will it take to pay the medical bills of 305 Million?
What if healthcare becomes a legal human right?
There are 2.1 Billion people in China.
There are 1.9 Billion people in India.
Are we 140 Million people going to pay for the rest of the world?
Originally posted by astrij
Originally posted by TheAftermath
reply to post by astrij
Using tax dollars to fund healthcare is unconstitutional.
The patriot act is unconstitutional. The federal reserve is unconstitutional. The lack of representation should be unconstitutional. Pandering to corporations should be unconstitutional. All of these issues and more received barely a whisper from the majority of Americans.
Why the sudden outrage about the state's usurpation of the constitution in regards to health care reform that would actually benefit millions of American's? The disrespect for the constitution by your government has been ongoing for decades now and has been given very little, if any attention.
Well, very little attention other than from us "kooks" here at ATS of course.
"The John Edwards we know crushed [obstetrics, gynecology] and neurosurgery in North Carolina," said Dr. Craig VanDerVeer, a Charlotte neurosurgeon. "As a result, thousands of patients lost their health care."
Amazingly, Dr. Emanuel criticizes the Hippocratic Oath as partly to blame for the "overuse" of medical care: "Medical school education and post graduate education emphasize thoroughness," he wrote. Physicians take the "Hippocratic Oath's admonition to 'use my power to help the sick to the best of my ability and judgment' as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others." (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008.) Of course that is what patients hope their doctors will do. But Dr. Emanuel wants doctors to look beyond the needs of their own patient and consider social justice (emphasis mine.) They should think about whether the money being spent on their patient could be better spent elsewhere.
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Chronogoblin
All I know is... load up on Pharma stocks buddy. When the bill passes and the Gov is buying all the poor all the medication they desire at premium prices Pharma is gunna explode..
Originally posted by zerbot565
speaking about how to use tax money and budgets , i just read that u.s marine corps uses about 80 million euros worth of gasoline daily in afganistan.
money that can be used for healthcare in stead of having a party out in the desert just so that every generation on americans can say they ve been in war.