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I am 23, an American Citizen with government run health care.

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posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
And you could pay for your misfortune. Your situation was better than those others you think should be left to die because they cannot afford it. That is the difference you expect everyone to be like you which is very self absorbed to say the least.


The Obama healthcare WILL LEAVE ELDER AMERICANS TO DIE. So you better do yourself a favor and actually read what is being proposed, and even what Obama himself has stated.....

Obviously you are one of those who doesn't inform themselves and instead you jump in the Socialist bandwagon just because "every other Obamatron is doing it"....

[edit on 15-8-2009 by ElectricUniverse]




posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:13 PM
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How about you be empathetic with your own paycheck and not others?

How much do you donate to charity every week? I assume at least 50% of your net earnings right?



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:15 PM
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Have any proof? Considering the amount of BS that has been thrown his way by closetcase racists seeking nothing but to find reasons to crucify him since day one? I don't support Obama any more than I did McCain but I don't need a weather vane to tell which way the wind blows with a great deal of people at the moment.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:17 PM
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This is not even worth responding to. And come to think of it neither are you. All I will say is narcissism isn't a problem of mine I need to justify.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:17 PM
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sorry if this has been coverd... couldnt read past the second page.

income tax doesnt pay for anything but intrests on "our" debt to the "federal" "reserve". the tax on cigs, gas, sales tax, etc. pay for all the roads, medicare/caid and so on. because you(like an idiot) pay your volentary income tax doesnt mean that you pay for anything that matters. everyone pays the real taxes unless you dont smoke or drive a car or have a telephone or basicly do anything that involves spending money. the real problem is going to be your electric and water bill skyrocketing(cap and trade) food prices doubling (inflation from all the new money in the system). you wont be able to keep a roof over with the power on, buy food(damn i need to start a garden) or travel to work(if you still have a job that is...hahaha). but on the bright side...we will maybe be able to get a checkup every now and thin!



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:18 PM
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Translation: You donate nothing and only feel compassionate when it comes to spending other peoples money.

Gotcha.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:18 PM
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Would make too much sense and call out the greed and corruption in government if we could have instant communication. Now they can't have that if they want to continue in their single minded goal of government dependency from the citizens.

Of course greed and financial power seems to be incorporated throughout th healt care reform, big question is who gets the most of the power, that is where the real fighting is happening now.

I am laid off, and with a mild stroke and heart attack, which is visible by looking at me makes it diffucult to find employment, and almost impossible to fnd affordable health insurance and life insurance. Fortunately my credit union is helping with the life insurance problem, and am looking to the V.A. for temporay health insurance and school aide to further my education in computer sciences to assist me in finding future employment in which my health issues will not be such a deciding factor.

Fortunately with my wife working still, and having already gone through some of my 401k, and all my savings, I have to resort to making payment plans with my doctors to get prescriptions and medical care, I still make ends meet for now.But I will not give up, and will find a way to keep life rolling for myself and family.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:19 PM
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Actually you are incorrect. But I don't expect you to think any other way.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:20 PM
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You see, thats the problem with people like you.

I even stated that i can barely use my left hand, and you still want me to work for you because you are too lazy to do a search on the forums on any of the threads which have posted WORD FOR WORD what Obama himself has stated, and what is in the proposed Nationalized healthcare.....



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:21 PM
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Well your posts have shown no evidence of anything other than wanting income redistribution.

Compassion blah blah blah empathy blah blah blah.

The little problem with your need to be compassionate with my wallet is simple: it's unconstitutional.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:21 PM
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What utter crap!
That was pathetic. You cannot provide proof because I want to prove it and you are injured????
*falls on his back laughing so hard* Gee you allow yourself WIDE excuse yet others none. How hypocritical of you. And neither do you know anything about me.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:22 PM
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WOAH .. hold on a minute here buddy ...

I challenge ANYONE to go through and read every post and try and find a racist comment from ANYONE on EITHER SIDE????

I have read every single post in this thread thus far, and I have seen not a single hint at racism, in fact, the subject was first brought up by you.

Says a lot about you friend...



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:23 PM
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Yet if through misfortune you were to find yourself at the bottom you would be screaming otherwise.... Ah well. Continue your distortions all you wish. Good day.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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Simply commenting on those who are visibly digging for any excuse to hate the man. *shrugs* Don't blame me for seeing it. And neither did I say you were one of them bucko.

[edit on 15-8-2009 by Watcher-In-The-Shadows]



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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I've been at the bottom. never once reached out for government assistance.

Much like all of your other comments, you have failed miserably yet again.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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Sure you have.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by ElectricUniverse
 


What utter crap!
That was pathetic. You cannot provide proof because I want to prove it and you are injured????
*falls on his back laughing so hard* Gee you allow yourself WIDE excuse yet others none. How hypocritical of you. And neither do you know anything about me.


This coming from the poster accusing so many of us of lacking compassion for other humans, especially those with illness or injuries??

And you call US HYPOCRITICAL???

Pot, meet Kettle



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by TheAftermath
 


Sure you have.


When you've lived in your car in Phoenix in July, feel free to question my truthfulness.

until then you are best served barking up a tree that wont continually hand you your pathetic ass


[edit on 15-8-2009 by TheAftermath]



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:27 PM
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He is making claims and yet when called to back them up he responds with that and a rather silly diatribe in support of that diatribe. If he is making claims he should be ready to back them up. Yet he is not. Wonder why...



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:30 PM
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big question is who gets the most of the power, that is where the real fighting is happening now.


I would say the Insurance Companies actually.. notice how quiet they are? .. Health Insurance is the biggest net loss for insurance companies.. to have the government subsidize it while not being involved in the private aspects of other insurances and investment vehicles it's safe to assume profits will soar. Anthem/Blue Cross is a Government subsidized insurance company.. awesome profits. Horrible insurance.. but hey "it's something".



I am laid off, and with a mild stroke and heart attack, which is visible by looking at me makes it diffucult to find employment, and almost impossible to fnd affordable health insurance and life insurance. Fortunately my credit union is helping with the life insurance problem, and am looking to the V.A. for temporay health insurance and school aide to further my education in computer sciences to assist me in finding future employment in which my health issues will not be such a deciding factor.


Unemployed as well
But as Bob Dylan says, keep on keepin on. Some restrictions for insurability were insane.. literally. I used to have a chart of all things that were "uninsurable" .. for instance, if you suffered from depression .. just normal everyday depression .. uninsurable. That was revoked in 2008 and deemed illegal practice. 10lbs over weight? There is a tier system that increases cost per 10lbs over weight based on a chart for height.
Born with disease you had all your life? Sorry...
It's a BS corrupt system.



But I will not give up, and will find a way to keep life rolling for myself and family.


I wish you well.. hopefully you land a job soon.
You should look into a discount plan, it's better than nothing and usually really cheap. It's not "insurance" but it can help a great deal if they have a negotiation network.



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