Hubble Telescope image: Orion Nebula artifact convinces me of ET existance, page 2
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reply posted on 15-8-2009 @ 07:15 AM by Ophiuchus13
reply to post by tauristercus



Personally, What my eye's see ( i know i'm gonna get shot down for this one) But what i think it could posibly be is the start of a black hole or maybe a work hole and what that glow maybe is the remnant's of the star dying...

-Just my 2 penny's



reply posted on 15-8-2009 @ 10:27 AM by Soylent Green Is People
Originally posted by Ophiuchus13
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post by tauristercus



Personally, What my eye's see ( i know i'm gonna get shot down for this one) But what i think it could posibly be is the start of a black hole or maybe a work hole and what that glow maybe is the remnant's of the star dying...

-Just my 2 penny's


This has already been identified in this thread (and by astronomers) as a protoplanetary disk, or "proplyd", which is a disk of dense gas and dust that will perhaps one day form a solar system.

Our solar system probably looked like this 5 billion years ago.

Here's a link on the hubble site about it:
hubblesite.org...

Here's another site that discusses other proplyds in the Orion Nebula:
www.oarval.org...


reply posted on 15-8-2009 @ 06:24 PM by Soylent Green Is People
Originally posted by Gorman91
proto planetary disks are usually bright and larger.

en.wikipedia.org...
[edit on 15-8-2009 by Gorman91]

This one is being viewed edge-on, therefore the star inside is being blocked by all of the dust (and is therefore blocked-out by the dust). Because of our edge-on view, we are looking through the thickest portion of the dust cloud, therefore it looks darker than the rest of the nebula.

This is just like when we see a galaxy edge-on, such as this one:
www.samsastro.com...
Because we are looking edge-wise through "all" of the dust, it is relatively darker than the surrounding material, thus it looks darker.

As for the size...The particular proplyd (proto-planetary disk) mentioned in the OP is 17 times as large as our solar system, so I wouldn't agree with your assertion that it's too small to be a proplyd.


[edit on 8/15/2009 by Soylent Green Is People]


reply posted on 15-8-2009 @ 10:36 PM by Gorman91
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good example, thanks.

Jeeze those clouds can get thick.

[edit on 15-8-2009 by Gorman91]


reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 06:40 AM by Gbert
reply to post by ricwolt



ive not checked the time n co-ords out u just gave but im presuming that the 'planatary disk' is no longer visable...hence pointing to a logical explonation that it was an artificial object???


reply posted on 3-9-2009 @ 12:19 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by tauristercus
Now, how do I edit my thread title ????


A kind request to a Mod would do it... just look at the bottom of the page and you will see who is on this thread

But you can leave it... it gets more attention than a serious title


Originally posted by urk1971
could this be the Rama spacecraft ?


No... 1) its too big and 2) that cylinder is still lurking in our solar system

But THIS is interesting...

The Maya of Central America had a folk tale which dealt with Orion's part of the sky, known as Xibalba.[10] Their traditional hearths included in their middle a smudge of glowing fire that corresponded with the Orion nebula. This is clear pre-telescope evidence that the Maya detected a diffuse area of the sky contrary to the pin points of stars


en.wikipedia.org...


Originally posted by Phage
It is not an imaging artifact. It could, in fact, be a planetary system in it's infancy, a proto-planetary disk surrounding its star.


Hmmmm well looking closely at this clip...



...the two bright areas where it's 'pinched' in looks to me like something else going on. This may just be a hole in the plasma... something akin to a 'sun spot'

Can we see if its still there? If its not there anymore then I would say it was a 'plasma hole'

But judging by many posts if Phage says its so... hard to fight that

Me, I will wait a bit and see if this is still there before jumping to conclusions. But you did say 'might' so ya get the star for saving me time hunting down the linky


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