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Topic started on 14-8-2009 @ 10:35 AM by Iamonlyhuman

Internal Memo Confirms Big Giveaways In White House Deal With Big Pharma


www.huffingtonpost.com
A memo obtained by the Huffington Post confirms that the White House and the pharmaceutical lobby secretly agreed to precisely the sort of wide-ranging deal that both parties have been denying over the past week.
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 10:45 AM by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by Iamonlyhuman



Bah, you beat me to the article for a few minutes... I shouldn't have spent so long writting my comments on the article.


reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 10:47 AM by ElectricUniverse
Before it is deleted, here are my comments.

So, the Americans who are pro healthcare reform thought that the Obama administration is trying to look out for them and it is not making deals with big pharma?

Here is an interesting part of the article. BTW, yes if there is a good article from a leftist newspapers such as the Huff i will post it.


PhRMA's Johnson cast doubts on the provenance of the outline. "The memo, as described, is simply not accurate," he said in a statement. "Anyone could have written it. Unless it comes from our board of directors, it's not worth the paper it's written on. Clearly, someone is trying to short circuit our efforts to try and make health care reform a reality this year. That's not going to happen. Too much is at stake for both patients and the U.S. economy. Our new ads supporting health care reform are starting this week, and we are redoubling our efforts to drive awareness of why this issue is so important to America's future."

Johnson added that "no outside lobbyists -- not a single one -- were ever involved in our discussions with the Senate Finance Committee or the White House so someone is blowing smoke."

But the lobbyist who was given the outline defended its authenticity. And although the White House now says that drug price negotiations and reimportation were not actually discussed in the talks with PhRMA, the lobbyist said: "Well, that's bull -- that's baloney. That was part of the deal, for them not to push that."

The new uncertainty surrounding the deal comes after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has repeatedly said that her chamber is not bound by any agreement it is not a party to. On July 8th, the day after the Journal reported some elements of the deal, Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) said in a public speech that his committee would not be tied down by the agreement.


So Democrats in power are trying to claim that this deal was never done, but a lobbyist who was part of the deal says the memo is true, and this is part of what was agreed on.

So, healthcare reform for the "betterment of us, the American people"?


[edit on 14-8-2009 by ElectricUniverse]


reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 01:59 PM by Maxmars
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What bothers me most about this is the fact that either way the Insurance industry wins. If they can create the perception that "Big Pharma" is in on a deal they make it less likely the Health Care bill will pass ... (not that I want it to) and they get to keep the status quo..., in which we all know they continue to benefit from the way things are now. Also, if it fails, "Big Pharma" wins, because we still have to swallow the bitter pill of their outrageous pricing structure (pun intended).

If it passes we have to face endless streams of social engineering garbage based on ideologies that are at best, shared only by a partisan few.

It's a miracle of political engineering.... heads we lose, tails we lose.

I am not at all surprised that this young career politician and all of his 'influential' friends get what they want, regardless of any silly little 'words' that he said or was told to say.

Ain't politics fun?

What it has to do with the improvement of the human condition is another story entirely. "Health Care" is probably the most clever 'branding' I have ever seen for an industry that derives profit from human suffering... except maybe,' Security Consulting'...


reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 05:12 PM by epete22
reply to post by Maxmars



Not true. If they went after the real problems of healthcare such as tort reform and insurance companies have the ability to sell their insurance nationwide instead of just adapting to a particular state laws; prices would drop and you would have less decline of procedures.


reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 05:36 PM by Majic
Internal Medicine

Perhaps a little more
transparency from the White House would clear this up.



reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 06:40 PM by JayinAR
reply to post by Maxmars





What bothers me most about this is the fact that either way the Insurance industry wins. If they can create the perception that "Big Pharma" is in on a deal they make it less likely the Health Care bill will pass ... (not that I want it to) and they get to keep the status quo..., in which we all know they continue to benefit from the way things are now. Also, if it fails, "Big Pharma" wins, because we still have to swallow the bitter pill of their outrageous pricing structure (pun intended).


You can never trust insurance agents, real estate agents or lawyers... or so they say.
And I agree.


reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 06:42 PM by JayinAR
reply to post by Maxmars



Security Counciling and 'military intelligence.'

But yeah, they have their bases covered and you had better bet they have waged bets 20 ways based on this one outcome.


PS - As a side note, everyone should listen to the song "Hang Me Up to Dry"... Describes my mood at this point and is a great song. The Cold War Kids

[edit on 14-8-2009 by JayinAR]


reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 06:47 PM by JayinAR
reply to post by epete22



Oh, prices will drop alright...immediately.
They have written it that way for a reason. Problem is, they are banking on the sudden inflow of cash to secure a line of credit with China.

Once that credit runs dry and they have undercut the private sector those prices will creep up like gasoline in preparation of Memorial Day. Slowly.

Like bringing frogs to boil in a pot. And you will never even notice that you don't have the money to go to the movies any longer on the weekends. You will live paycheck to paycheck. Like a lot of other folks already do.

It is a non-tax, tax. And it is illegal...

For a reason.


reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 07:12 PM by Guzzeppi
reply to post by Iamonlyhuman



Nice find.

Another broken promise it seems. When will ALL people realize that it's just a different face playing the same game?

Looks like we can add this one to the list here as TRUTH.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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