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Originally posted by weedwhacker
Originally posted by Seventh
- exact point of impact ie the point of the nose cone, the O2 cannister is further back, so it was not this causing the spark.
Think of the time span involved, when moving at ~730-750 feet/per/second.
Initial contact, first flash appear to be simultaneous, because of the velocity of the airplane. How many feet AFT of the end of the nose do you suppose the O2 tank is?
The newspaper says it submitted questions for bin Laden to Taliban officials and received written replies
Ummat quotes bin Laden as saying: "We are against the American system but not the American people. Islam does not allow killing of innocent people, men, women and children even in the event of war."
retaliation and punishment should be carried out following the principle of reciprocity, especially when women and children are involved
Your position against Muslims in Palestine is despicable and disgraceful. America has no shame. ... We believe that the worst thieves in the world today and the worst terrorists are the Americans. Nothing could stop you except perhaps retaliation in kind. We do not have to differentiate between military or civilian. As far as we are concerned, they are all targets, and this is what the fatwah says ... . The fatwah is general (comprehensive) and it includes all those who participate in, or help the Jewish occupiers in killing Muslims.
And by now, we know that you will never accept the truth. Yes, the Taliban were worried that Tomahawks and smart bombs were going to start raining down on them. You cannot begin to compare our actions in Somalia under Bill Clinton, to a nation looking for blood under George Bush. George Bush made it very clear that our response to 9/11 was not going to be business as usual.
Extreme human errors ie B.B.C. report about WTC7 gets toned down to a common incorrect name/time/place type mistake.
Secondly Swampy - analogies of stereotyping aspects via witness reliability is completely different for both sides, you speak of Truther`s as basing our whole emphasis on the theory that 9/11 could not be formed by AQ as they live in caves , this is both a juvenile depiction and one that doesn`t require much thought of realism, look at Neo`s links and the second video in particular, congressmen behaving exactly a la cookie cutter Truther`s would, ie - asking for the truth and strangely enough none of them wearing tin foil hats, does it not strike you as odd that none of them use the beloved GL truther assessment statement `But they are cave men`?.
There have been 2 related posts of mine both with pictures - the x3 fireballs and the obviously edited 5 frames from the Pentagon attack, why have there been no debunking whatsoever regarding these, instead apn the obligatory side tracking and emphasis on aspects nigh on impossible to prove?.
Also, again, relating to Neo`s second video we have high ranking officials screaming for the truth and being countered by witnesses`s whom have been prevented to testify, they cannot pull the good old tried and tested classified information excuse on this one
Now is it not the case that those creating videos containing false evidence against the government are tantamount to committing treason?, and in a lot of cases these guys are selling DVD`s containing such evidence therefore obtaining monies in a fraudulent way - theft with deception is a felony. Also here we have America whose Lawyers thrive on personal acts of Defamation - Libel (written words), Slander (spoken words),the perps of said videos that are proved to be 100% wrong have therefore committed these personal attack offences and are subject for prosecution, there is huge money awarded in these cases, and as of yet to the best of my knowledge I have not seen one case of this, please correct me if i`m wrong.
Im sorry....where did I say they were basing their whole emphasis? I said it was ONE of the problems with pre-9/11 and post 9/11 "truther" thinking. Or are you going to deny that the phrase about men in a cave not being able to do something like this...does NOT come up all the time?
As for the Congressmen, I am all for throwing out the grand majority of the idiots currently serving. Of course they are going to berate the witnesses and demand answers.....then they can go home and say that they tried to find out the truth. And not once will any of the b--illegitimate sons accept any of their responsibility they share.
Because you are reaching for something that isnt there? Or could it be, that subject was discussed long ago and we dont feel like talking about it again, because no matter what is posted to show that you are grasping at things that are not there...you wont accept that?
I wouldnt have claimed need to know. I would have told the Congressman to go pack sand. Those hearings were only designed to try to find some poor mid-level schmuck to blame. Not once did I see a Congressman say that he wished he wouldnt have voted to castrate our continental air defense, or to restrict information sharing between law enforcement agencies. They bear just as much, if not more, responsibility for the failures that day as the men and women who didnt have the resources or were restricted by law from doing their jobs.
No, its not treason to make money telling lies. It isnt theft, it isnt a felony. As for libel, slander, etc..when you are a public figure you just don`t have the same protections as a private citizen. And no jury is going to award the President of the United States, damages, when some moron calls him a liar.