Very mysterious post on ATS dated 2008 predicting swine flu outbreak.

that is so strange.

i do think everything about the virus points to it being created in a lab.

Originally posted by thetruth777
In terms of predictions, the words "vaccine" and "cure" are almost interchangeable. He says the cure will have the chip. Well what can stop them from putting it in a vaccine?

But he didn't say the cure will have the chip. He says they will also put a chip in you so they know if you've had the cure or not (which is an absurd reason to put a chip in someone and I guarantee the majority of our country would not buy it).

Originally posted by thetruth777
You didn't know they can make RFID chips ~10-100 times smaller than a human hair? Scientific American had an article on it.

That's all good and well but that's still big enough to be seen in a microscope.
And the prediction said nothing about them hiding it to begin with.

Originally posted by thetruth777
And this "idiotic" plan is the only way to ensure that 95-99% of the nation gets it at the same time.

No it's not. It's a good way to ensure that a majority of the population will call "BS" on the 'chip' part of the deal.
If you think 95-99% of the nation would knowingly get a chip put in them, when you consider that over 70% of the nation is Christian, and much of these Christians have heard the "mark of the beast chip theory", then I say you're not looking at the reality.
Even aside from the Christian population, many people such as myself would need a much better reason for a chip implant.

I'd say 15% would be ok with it, 35% would not be ok with it, and 50% would strongly oppose it. I think those numbers are more realistic than what you gave..
If the initial goal was to gain some sort of control, they fail, because the end result is a loss of control.
It would be the worst conspiracy ever ...

If they try to chip you, you can always dig the chip out if you don't like it. It might be a little painful, but it's not going to be all that deep. Chances are you can also shield it, though that might not be adequate.

There is no shred of evidence that the flu mutation was deliberate. If it was manmade, it came about as a resuilt of filthy conditions on meat-producing farms where cattle, swine, birds are all kept in an unsanitary, disease-producing environment. An infection in those farms can sweep through the entire population, infecting millions of animals and mutating along the way - and also jumping over to humans as well.

I predict that there will be a reappearance of the H1N1 flu this autumn, and that it might even be seriously bad. Millions will be infected. Some will die. Even at the worst, 99+% of the population will survive it. There won't be people "dropping like flies". Some may die quickly after being infected, as happened in the 1918-1919 flu. It was reported that sometimes a person would board a bus feeling well, and be dead when he reached his stop.

I predict that public panic will cause more harm than the disease. There are likely to be runs on vaccination centers, people desperately hoping to be vaccinated even if they don't qualify for being among the first to receive the vaccine. We will not have enough vaccine for everyone. That may cause an occasional small outburst of chaos as people start to fight. However, it won't turn into any revolution or concerted action.

Supplies of Tamiflu and other antivirals are likely to be exhausted. There will likely be runs on other, more "holistic" remedies such as colloidal silver, homeopathic remedies, and the like.

There will likely be some cases of Guillain-Barre disease that result from the vaccine, as happened in 1976.

The football industry will likely suffer as people avoid public crowds. Other events may also be poorly attended or canceled altogether.

But ovrall, I predict that the whole flu season, even if there is a major pandemic, will be fairly boring.

Originally posted by TruthParadox

If you think 95-99% of the nation would knowingly get a chip put in them, when you consider that over 70% of the nation is Christian, and much of these Christians have heard the "mark of the beast chip theory", then I say you're not looking at the reality.

I think I can guarantee 90% of the Christian population of the US is only vaguely familiar in name with "The Book of Revelations" as a portion of the Bible. Almost none have read it. Very dew would attach any importance to it in their day to day lives.

If you ask Americans what "Mark of the Beast" was, the commonest answers would be "a movie" or "a videogame."

Christianity ain't what it used to be.


M

Of course they will try to mandate vaccinations and chip us in the process. Do you think they're just doing all of this health care stuff for their health.

Originally posted by mmiichael
If you ask Americans what "Mark of the Beast" was, the commonest answers would be "a movie" or "a videogame."

With all the "end is nigh" crap I've seen over the years, something tells me you're wrong about that lol...
I'm sure just about everyone in America, Christian or non, have heard the terms "666" and "mark of the beast"... And even if not, they sure as hell would after the mention of chip implants.
Aside from that, it's in the very subconscious of our society to reject something so forced - don't believe me, just read some of the replies in this thread. How many people do you really think would be for this?

Those in power know the importance of subtlety, and this plan is anything but subtle.

The minute they even mentioned the word "chip", people would go nuts.

Aside from that, I've yet to hear any legitimate reason or excuse they would have for a chip. The one proposed by the initial prediction is silly at best.

Originally posted by TruthParadox
No it's not. It's a good way to ensure that a majority of the population will call "BS" on the 'chip' part of the deal.
If you think 95-99% of the nation would knowingly get a chip put in them, when you consider that over 70% of the nation is Christian, and much of these Christians have heard the "mark of the beast chip theory", then I say you're not looking at the reality.
Even aside from the Christian population, many people such as myself would need a much better reason for a chip implant.

I'd say 15% would be ok with it, 35% would not be ok with it, and 50% would strongly oppose it. I think those numbers are more realistic than what you gave..
If the initial goal was to gain some sort of control, they fail, because the end result is a loss of control.
It would be the worst conspiracy ever

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They can introduce the chip by stealth so people don't even know they've been chipped. There's been another Anonymous post in the thread that says just that:

Well, with the advances of nanotechnology, I think it will more likely happen unknowingly. There will be a health crisis (avian flu, biological attack, whatever) that prompts a massive plan to innoculate or some type of skin test that needs to be performed that will provide the excuse to get everyone in. People will clamor for the "vaccine" or whatever and all a doctor will have to do is give the gov't a list of each person with the information off the vial (it will have to be single dose to work) and there you have it. And no one -- save a handful of people actually responsible for the manufacture of the "vaccine" need know.

This one was less specific, and there is no evidence linking this post to the prediction. By he did say: "There will be a health crisis". A little more vague, but still a true prediction. "Massive plan to inoculate". Read the news for info on that.



The phrase "dropping like fleas" does not have to be literal. If 10,000 people die from it the media will make us feel as though "people are dropping like fleas".

Those in power know the importance of subtlety, and this plan is anything but subtle.

The minute they even mentioned the word "chip", people would go nuts.

Aside from that, I've yet to hear any legitimate reason or excuse they would have for a chip. The one proposed by the initial prediction is silly at best.

Again, it can be subtle so no one even knows they're chipped. And doing it at any other time under any other pretext would not get 90+% chipped. And what he probably means is taking the jab=getting chipped.

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Then you're essentially adding your own twist to another prediction to make it sound more legit, as the initial prediction does not say it will be hidden but that it will be a two-part deal.

Originally posted by thetruth777

They can introduce the chip by stealth so people don't even know they've been chipped. There's been another Anonymous post in the thread that says just that:

It has to be a conscious choice to receive it!. What is so hard to understand that? Anyway, sometimes i get the impression people want revelations to happen. In this technology age it would be practically impossible to not know about the possible mark of the beast when it will be introduced. And i doubt it will ever happen.

Edit: What made you go back to your thread to read that anonymous reply? You seem a bit paranoid to me to be honest, and that post perfectly feed that paranoia on you

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Within the next decade, another Flu virus will come, part Swine, part Bird, Part Human, and part something else.

People will die.

Ok, scared me well enough. I'm still a coward in some ways. If this was something that was known about by inside knowledge...I'm stockpiling food and weapons. Is it normal to be scared of your own government??

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Please note that little more than a hundred people have died worldwide so far of this "killer virus". The regular flu remains far more deadly, killing hundreds per week. Swine flu is a joke.

Without wanting to create more paranoia, many governments are quietly involved in developing biological weapons for use when and if needed. Iraq was working on ones for selective population targeting. They trucked their stuff to Syria for safe keeping just before the Americans came in.

Certain population segments are more susceptible to fatality with some bugs due to their blood types. The ideal is to have something that affects only a group you chooses. But unleashing a virus can have untold disastrous repercussions. They can mutate and hit you back where you live.

The current pandemic scare virus, some think may have knowingly been unleashed in Mexico, but engineered in the Middle East. No confirmation of this but some indicators.

This may be a fabricated story. But still...


Mike

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Viruses generally don't mutate to become more deadly. It's very rare. In the case of these synthetic weapon viruses similar to Swine Flu, as an acutely deadly virus, it will mutate untold times within a single host and these mutations are never calculated. They simply are to insure that the virus can survive. The virus itself has no vested interest in killing you. It has only one purpose: to replicate. It's possible to die from a virus, but that's more of a side effect. Rarely ever do we have to worry about a weaponized virus coming back to haunt us. It's impossible to create an extremely deadly and stable virus, and even more impossible to create a deadly virus that gets more deadly with each mutation. It just doesn't happen in nature. That's why the Swine Flu burned out so fast. It was created by humans who expected the laws of nature to bend to their wills, which it didn't. The rest is a whole lot of hype and fear pornography.