Missing ship may have secret cargo

reply to post by ArMaPThe one thats been happening .Where have you been the last year? Are you serious you haven't noticed any economies falling apart.Or are you just questioning everybodys comments because you are really serious. wake up dude.

reply to post by A por uvas

If it's the one that is happening it's not imminent, right?

Or does "imminent" mean something else besides "about to happen" or something like that?

We are into another James Bond scenario now remember "Goldfinger" he stole the gold from Fort Knox, and was going to contaminate it and destroy the world economy. Didn't that involve a boat?
Come to think of it, it all fits with this mystery boat!

The Arctic Sea to dock at Las Palmas!


RIA Novosti: Arctic Sea expected to dock in Gran Canaria

MADRID, September 15 (RIA Novosti) - The Finnish-operated Arctic Sea cargo vessel, which is on its way back to Russia after being hijacked in late July, is to call at the port of Las Palmas, a Spanish marine spokesperson said on Tuesday.

Cumbre Vieja...

The latest on this mystery....

iafrica.com

Fresh mystery surrounded the destination of the Arctic Sea, allegedly hijacked for weeks by pirates, on Tuesday after Russia said it is no longer trying to dock the ship in Spain's Canary Islands.

Russia's embassy in Madrid and Spain's foreign ministry said that Russian authorities had withdrawn their request for permission to dock at Las Palmas and did not know where the Maltese-flagged vessel is heading.

The request was formally withdrawn on Friday, a Spanish diplomat said, the same day that Russian investigators unloaded evidence from the Arctic Sea onto a Russian warship to be taken to the Black Sea port of Novorossiisk.

another story supposed to be here: www.russiatoday.com...

I keep getting an error on the RT article, just posting the link should it become available later on..

unloaded evidence? Wonder what that might have been?

I think it was more then surface to air missiles…
It's was nuclear device that Iran bought from the Russian mafia.

reply to post by JacKatMtn


The link to the RT article now works. Unfortunately its still more mish-mash with conflicting reports about why the Arctic Sea will no longer make the expected Spanish docking - either they didn't pay the required fees or because they have military on board.

Both reasons sound fishy.

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One thing is certain, if they took all this time to reach the Canary islands they will took a very long time to reach their final destination.

A couple more articles on the "Arctic Sea"..

Wives of Arctic Sea sailors plead for their freedom

...The open letter from the four wives, all of whom live in Russia's northern port city of Arkhangelsk, was distributed to journalists by Mikhail Voitenko, a shipping expert who has closely followed the Arctic Sea saga.

The four women said they had not spoken to the sailors since August 18 -- around the time that Russian investigators left the ship -- and that their communications before that had been extremely limited.

"Before that our husbands called us about four times, with each conversation lasting from one to one-and-a-half minutes," they said.

"From our conversations with our husbands, we learned that they are all in bad physical shape."

The men were suffering from aches and pains, had limited access to food and water, and felt deeply isolated, the women said...

Interesting portion mentions a Russian journalist having fled Russia after receiving threatening phone calls...

Someone doesn't want this investigated?

This one describes how the purported hijackers were getting along on the ship....

Lawyer: Arctic Sea crew had fun with hijackers

Konstantin Baranovski, the lawyer of one of the suspected hijackers of the Finnish-owned and Maltese-registered ship, the Arctic Sea, says that the Russian crew of the ship let the suspected pirates make themselves comfortable while on board.
“They drank vodka and played sports, and spent free time together”, Baranovski said to Helsingin Sanomat.
Baranovski made his first comments on the matter to the BBC.

According to Baranovski’s client, the suspects were testing navigation equipment near the Estonian coast in July. They got lost in poor weather, and were rescued by the Arctic Sea, whose Russian crew welcomed them on board. The crew and the suspected hijackers then partied many times while en route from the Baltic Sea, through the English channel, and to the Atlantic.
The Russian Navy arrested the eight suspected hijackers in mid-August near Cape Verde. Baranovski said that they could not leave the ship, because the vessel did not stop at any port.

I wonder why this incident hasn't been addressed at the big UN gathering this week... You would think someone would want to know why the ship doesn't return to port and the crew allowed to go home... If there is nothing onboard besides lumber, it makes no sense at all..

What is really going on here?...

I wonder if those guys aren't suffering from radiation exposure.

Sounds like they're going to be silenced one way or another.

And this could just be a small piece of a large puzzle. The one that didn't go unnoticed.

The black market in conventional arms and nuclear material has been under the radar for years.

The Russians have the most to sell, and can claim it's part of their winding down nuclear proliferation.


Mike

reply to post by mmiichael
Both links seem to apply to info released today. It seems like the Russian authorities have washed their hands of the boat, and are going to continue with the Piracy accusations. The "aches and pains" report is is somehow odd, unless there is some kind of chronic infection in the crew. It's odd too that the owner can't contact the boat. Why did Spain not let them dock and lose a docking charge, is this boat now a pariah, and if so why?

I forget specifics from a couple weeks ago. The ship is owned by the same people (Russian?) who have a similar one - both bought recently. And there were visible recent alterations to the hull.

It would be a simple matter for a good investigative journalist to search records and interview owners of the ships. There's probably a story. If it gets too close to high level dirt business a wise journalist would know it could literally mean risk of life and limb.

We may all just be speculating on some embarrassing dirty deal gone bad they're trying to sweep under the rug. Or it may be a huge story.

The timing is suspicious.


Mike

After some searches on Spanish sites (the Canary Islands are Spanish, in case someone had forgot about it ) I found some things.

The ship arrived near (15 miles) the Canary Islands on September 11 (1), and on the 15th the docking was already delayed (2).

On the 18 the ship could not dock because they had not all the authorizations they needed, either because the Maltese authorities refused to take charge of the ship (3) or because the Las Palmas Maritime Authority had not granted permission to enter the port (4).

On the 21st the ship was still awaiting all the necessary permits, although they had authorization from the Port Authority of Las Palmas to dock (5).

Finally, on September 22, Russia withdrawn the request to dock (6). No reason is presented for the lack of permits.

Other sites have the same version of the events.

A Maltese site says that the Malta Maritime "Authority said it instructed the owner of the M/V Arctic Sea that the ship could not proceed to sea until any necessary repairs, surveys and certification were carried out and it was ascertained that the ship was in a seaworthy condition" (7).


Sources (Google translations)
1 - The vessel "Arctic Sea" traveling at 15 miles from the port of Las Palmas
2 - The "Arctic Sea" delayed arrival at Puerto de La Luz
3 - The ship 'Arctic is' dock at the Port of La Luz with armed personnel on board
4 - The 'Arctic Sea' is left without permission to dock
5 - The Arctic Sea is traveling at 24 miles from Gran Canaria pending the entry permit
6 - Russia withdraws its request for the 'Arctic Sea' dock at Las Palmas
(no need of translation for this one )
7 - Updated: Malta 'refusing to take part' in Arctic Sea handover

[edit on 25/9/2009 by ArMaP]

reply to post by ArMaP
A lot of info ArMap, and thanks for that.

Is this a "handover" to a new owner? given that the last mentioned owner has said he has "no contact with the ship", which could then be open to interpretation. Is it a technical thing that the Maltese have to assume that the ship has been damaged in some way other than the supposed damage to electronic equipment, and to which damage is still an open question.

reply to post by mmiichael


About the 'visiblel changes' what's the original source for those? I remember it was some really loony russian conspiracy theorist who said that, Raal or some such name. Finnish customs however said that there was no visible alterations to the ship.

Nothing new in this article, but some journalist at the BBC has not forgotten this event.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Finnish media told today that Baltic Sea ship name (Itar tass new pictures) was changed to north Korean "Jon Jin 2".

"Situation is bizarre and strange", company leader Viktor Matvejev told.

There is no information when Russia will give ship back to owner company..



[edit on 6-10-2009 by hande]

reply to post by hande


You have to believe that there is something incredibly big to this story that really needs hiding when day after day the smoke screen and evasive tactics get thicker and more complicated.

The fact that they just never stop adding additional dimensions of cover-up almost daily just adds to the suspicion in my mind.

Someone, someday, probably a long time from now is going to write a book and it will all come out. By that time some of us will no longer be around to read it.

I looked for a corroborating story on a possible name change but was unsuccessful..

However, this little gem popped up from the 6th..

www.russiatoday.com

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu secretly traveled to Moscow with a plea for the release of Mossad commandos allegedly related to the hijacking of the “Arctic Sea” vessel, says RT contributor Wayne Madsen.

How credible is RT?

Secretly and allegedly. Doesn't matter what the source is that's not very convincing