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Missing ship may have secret cargo

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posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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I have an idea, let's forget about the nationalities and see what we think about this case.

A ship going from north Europe to Algeria is apparently hijacked while still in north European waters, but that information is only known when the ship is entering the Atlantic ocean.

Soon after, the ship turns off its signal and disappears, never reaching its destination.

The country from which the crew comes sends some war ships to look for the ship, and, according to an official representative, with the help of NATO's maritime monitoring system, they find it near central Africa.

The crew is sent back to their country, along with the hijackers, and the ship is towed back to the same country.

We don't have any news about the original cargo.
 

Does it sound different in any way?

Does it suggest any other possibility?

Who knows, I hope it helps.




posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 06:31 PM
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reply to post by ArMaP
 
I suppose if it had officially disappeared, then it may itself been on a covert operation, aided by a company of people other than the crew, and that company may already have been on board, or came aboard later. You're right in saying that there is no word as to whether the timber cargo is still on the ship, but then there is no word about anything really. And for the life of me i'm still wondering where, after all the media hype are the pictures of the boat coming home? You would think that everybody and their granny would be in planes in international and homeland waters and would be grabbing their cameras. No word on the crew, where are those that were injured?
In other words it's a total blackout from start to er, Finnish.

I should have added that, on the other hand and according I think, to Malta the ship's whereabouts were always known.






[edit on 3-9-2009 by smurfy]



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 06:36 PM
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Yeah Smurfy, I totally agree.

Only thing I think I can be sure of is...

Someone, was smuggling something, very Important on Arctic Sea.
Someone else found out, and intervened?
Everything that's coming out now "officially", is just a smokescreen to cover up what actually took place.

Beyond that...


G



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 07:31 PM
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Another thought is that the ship piddled about the Baltic sea for a day, on something covert rather than being on full steam to the Bay of Biscay.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 09:14 PM
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That has to be the worst ever 'investigative article' I have seen. Ever. They make it sound like they've discovered new information that the ship was in Kaliningrad. They offer no evidence except 'sources' and 'investigation'.
Still it's claiming that Iran is involved which is rather childish at this point. We've gone over this tens of times on the board...



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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news.bbc.co.uk...


I'm still looking into it, but the News editor that originally broke the story of an arms conspiracy has run from Russia, stating he's afraid for his life.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 12:15 AM
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Monitoring this story is like watching an old James Bond 007 spy thriller
in s l o w m o t i o n !



posted on Sep, 5 2009 @ 02:00 PM
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Slow motion indeed!!!

Maybe this will give everyone something to study as it comes from a bit different perspective.

Is Russia setting the stage for a nuclear apocolypse? [Part II]



[edit on 5-9-2009 by Old Farmer]



posted on Sep, 5 2009 @ 02:22 PM
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For some stupid reason I cannot fix the above post to include Part I so I include the link here.

Is Russia setting the stage for a nuclear apocalypse? [Part I]



posted on Sep, 5 2009 @ 02:55 PM
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Yeah we've seen all this guess work before. Load of bullocks imho. Icing on the cake is of course the whole Iran involvement joke.



posted on Sep, 5 2009 @ 02:58 PM
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reply to post by Old Farmer
 

Not really, he could have written that article just by following this thread.



posted on Sep, 5 2009 @ 10:51 PM
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Here's another item from the Sunday Times Online. The story refuses to die in spite of Russia's desires.

Missing channel pirate ship carried Russian arms for Iran



posted on Sep, 6 2009 @ 01:48 AM
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Another 'article' of total bollocks. Just to point out few of the gems of intellect we've seen already in several web pages:
"..."according to sources..."
"...military officials believe..."
"...is said to have..."
"...Sources in Moscow suggested..." -> "...said a former army officer."
"...That’s why I don’t rule out Mossad being behind the hijacking."
This article pretty much takes stuff we've seen on several webpages which are purely guessing and then compiling it into an 'article'.
The whole mossad / Iran thing is just ridicilous for several reasons already mentioned on this thread.




posted on Sep, 6 2009 @ 02:20 AM
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There are a lot of theories floating around.. The Mossad/Iran bit really had me smiling..

Does anyone think it possible to link the Bin Laden story of a present to Muslims during Ramadan with this story?

Source

Personally I think whatever was on the Arctic Sea was airlifted off during the trip down the English Channel.



posted on Sep, 6 2009 @ 04:17 AM
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Argh please stop you're making my head hurt. We've seen all of these about a million times.



posted on Sep, 6 2009 @ 06:04 AM
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I was just wondering if anyone needs any Timber?
I picked up a few thousand tonnes of the stuff from my local MOD base last week.


As mentioned previously...
Someone (Russian), was trying to smuggle something, (probably nukes/missiles/warheads) out of Kaliningrad.
This "something" was installed/hidden during the "repairs" carried out in Kaliningrad, over the two weeks prior to the vessel being loaded with it's genuine legal cargo of Timber.
Since the Timber was heading for Algeria, it makes sense to me that the destination for the hidden cargo would also be in that part of the world, (or at least in that general direction?).
Algeria is approx 90% of the way from Finland to, what is referred to as, the Middle East. (I'd love to see what the next destination was going to be, for the Arctic Sea, after Algeria!!) So, I'm guessing that the hidden cargo was most likely headed for that part of the world.
Now, if someone found out, that the Russians were maybe trying to smuggle this "something" to the middle east, they might understandably want to take a look at it.
So they would have to get onto the vessel. But it might not be a good idea, politically speaking, to openly board a russian owned civilian vessel, going about it's lawful business, so... a cover story is required!
The Arctic Sea is sailing down the Baltic Sea, off Sweden... so a check by Swedish aurthorities would seem to be a plausible story?
Board the vessel, take a look, and if all is well... leave again, and no one is any the wiser. So, the Arctic Sea was boarded in the early hours of 24th July. The boarders found the hidden cargo, and confirmed what it was. They immobilised to crew, and disabled all comms, and then had to somehow make arrangements to remove the offending article(s).

They wouldn't want Russia to suspect anything, so they continue to sail down through the English Channel. They free the secret cargo from it's hiding place, and arrange to have it removed. They also decide on creating a diversionary cover story of "piracy" to throw the Russians off the trail for a few days.
The hidden cargo (or the "dangerous" part of the cargo) is airlifted to safety. The piracy story is leaked, and the AIS transponder is switched off.

Russia goes berserk! They immediately rush through legislation which allows Medvedev to send the Russian fleet into the Atlantic in pursuit of "pirates".
They find the Arctic Sea, minus it's secret payload... but they can't publicly admit to what's happened. And the worlds media are now interested, so they themselves have to come up with a cover story, that makes them look like the good guys in all this.
So the magnificent imperial Russian Navy finds the stolen vessel, and rescues the crew. (And secretly locks them up in jail for... de-briefing!) and then conjures up a bunch of Pirates... known criminals no less! And mostly troublesome Estonians with a couple of Latvians thrown in for good measure.
The ship is now safe, but rather than allow it to deliver it's cargo of Finnish timber... The Russians take it to a Russian Naval Base (with weapons storage facility)? Perhaps to remove any and all traces of the hidden cargo, and it's secret compartment?
The crew are finally released, after a couple of weeks of gentle persuasion, to go along with the official Russian version of events.
The pirates are arrested and will be tried, convicted and forgotten about in due course.
The rest of the world never finds out that Russia (or a rogue russian group) was smuggling nukes or whatever, (unless they look at ATS:lol
and there are pats on the back all round for the special forces who managed to stop the smuggling.
Russian made WMD's are now on hand, if they are needed for any future false flags, terror alerts... etc.

Nice.

Anyone got a better idea for a book/film??


peace

G



posted on Sep, 6 2009 @ 06:22 AM
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Personally it feels like another Patriot act, Medvedev putting legislation for foreign excursion... and I remember someone saying Russian subs were seen off the coast of the US..? Could be a false flag to get them back into another build up... suddenly its like they are both pushing their boundaries for tension and then there will be inevitable a breaking point...



posted on Sep, 6 2009 @ 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by Gordi The Drummer
Algeria is approx 90% of the way from Finland to, what is referred to as, the Middle East. (I'd love to see what the next destination was going to be, for the Arctic Sea, after Algeria!!) So, I'm guessing that the hidden cargo was most likely headed for that part of the world.
The destination port in Algeria (Algeria is a big country, the destination port is the closest to Gibraltar and so to Finland) is just at 68% of the total journey from the Finnish port from where the Arctic Sea got its timber to the Suez Canal, that I think could be considered the beginning of the Middle East.


But it might not be a good idea, politically speaking, to openly board a russian owned civilian vessel, going about it's lawful business, so... a cover story is required!
It's not Russian owned.



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