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Missing ship may have secret cargo

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posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 11:01 PM
reply to post by maoklein

Not true, we do export wood and alot of it. Enso is the 3rd biggest company on it's field so there's nothing uncommon about such an export.

posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 11:31 PM
"The Sum of all Fears" anyone? "Batman Begins"? Outlandish, yes, probable, no...I wonder what it could be aside from a weapon of some kind.

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 12:09 AM

Originally posted by maoklein
one thing that went unnoticed on this thread: the cargo itself.

Why would Algeria buy timber from Finland?

To build houses? To make furniture?

I expect timber is one of Finland's major exports.

I expect Algeria doesn't have a lot of indigenous timber.

You know there is a lot of pretty mundane stuff shipped around the world. It isn't all coc aine and tomahawk missles.

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 12:13 AM
reply to post by rnaa

In some parts of the world, timber itself is actually being smuggled. An ats thread describing this: Timber Smuggling With Rockets in Chitral, Pakistan

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 12:21 AM
I don't understand what all the mystery is...the secret cargo the ship was carrying was Obama's birth certificate.

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 12:28 AM
If I had to guess I'd say it was a secret deal for some goodies Russia sold to Iran, except it wasn't secret enough to evade the ever watchful CIA or mossad. Clearly they weren't going to allow that to happen and took action.

Whatever it was must have been pretty important to take a chance on creating an international incident. I'm thinking it might be nuclear materials or s-300 batteries stowed secretly with the timber as cover. Who is going to steal a bunch of wood?

BTW another ever more remarkable web bot hit.

[edit on 14-8-2009 by CapsFan8]

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 12:33 AM
My guess if there was something sinister on board would be a briefcase nuke. The stories don't exactly sound like something big like 'nuclear materials' or missile parts. Those would be easy to find and there would be no need to beat up the captain etc.

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 12:40 AM

Originally posted by flysse
reply to post by rmiller196

These elites have been wanting WWIII for some time now. If there truly was enriched plutonium and the Russians were somehow slipping it to the N. Koreans, (I'd like to see sources first), Then you can have Israel attack Iran, which Russia backs. Then, U.S. gets involved. N. Korea attacks U.S. or an ally, then you have China backing N. Korea. And you have a nuclear world war.

The teams being:

U.S. - Israel - England vs. Russia - Iran - North Korea - China

This is a hypothesis, based on some facts, but also speculation.

I'm just a simple Canadian.. but.
I don't think Russia would "back Iran". Do you know Russias history?? The Ruski's would sell the USA weapons if you Americans wanted to buy them lol!! They are an international superstar in the Arms trade!!! IF you want a weapon on Russia and you got Euros or Dollars, and enough of them, you can get basically ANYTHING.

Anyone can tell you that...
Also, sure, they provided them with the Nuclear building blocks for an operational plant. 90% for the money, 10% for the "indimidation" it brings to the West. That's the math? Anyone agree???

China will not back the North Koreans...
For too many reasons to name.

Bottom line. If Israel and Iran have conflict, it will affect the whole region... especially the 140,000 US troops on "stand by" in Irak. North Korea may attack the South, if it happens before Kim Jong Il dies..

THAT will put a huge damper on the U.S, and Russia and China can sit back and have little proxy games for a few months. THATS it.

China and Russia nuking America?

The world would cut off all trade with these countries instantly. World Wide condemnation. Pointless. No one benefits.

Russia may be the Big Bear, but I tell ya.. but this Yogi is one sly m*th*r f*ck*r!!!

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 12:52 AM
I think that this is an interesting story.

I have to wonder how a speed boat would have made it to American soil and why Russian subs would be patrolling US waters looking for it. If these stories are related, that is.

Would a speedboat be able to make it to US soil without being spotted? That seems unlikely to me.

Would a speedboat be able to transport a nuclear weapon without sinking? You would think that a nuclear weapon would weigh far too much for that to be a plausible scenario.

Is there an explosive device that could actually fit aboard a speedboat? If so, as I already posited, how could such a vessel make it to American soil without being spotted? Wouldn't radar or some other form of surveillance be able to detect them?

Whatever the case may be, for a container ship carrying nothing more than lumber, you have to admit that the response has been pretty extreme.

Especially if Russian subs are searching for it.

As others have stated, a vessel as large as a container ship would be fairly easy to locate in today's day and age, which means that it may have been sunk by the "pirates" after they secured whatever it was on board that they were after.

There certainly had to have been more than lumber on board. That is a given. The fact that this event transpired in Northern European waters is even more bizarre.

I don't really know what to make of this whole situation but it sure is a mystery.

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 01:03 AM
"They were dressed in black uniforms," the newspaper quoted the captain as saying. "They resembled American elite soldiers and seemed very professional. They said they were looking for coc aine, which should have been loaded in Kaliningrad. They spoke English, with some kind of accent."

This comment does not sit with me well. How can they resemble Americans but speak with an accent. I am with others, this is a set up of some kind. I just wish we could get reliably information from our media.

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 01:05 AM
My theorie about this ship is that it was hijacked by the cia and sunk because some rouge russian navy officers were secretly trying to sell nuclear weapons to a nasty african or middel east country for a lot of money.The whole ship and crew were sunk some where of the coast of northern france along with its nuclear cargo.

[edit on 14-8-2009 by GORGANTHIUM]

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 01:21 AM
Come on people, the news is just a front to us, they want us to focus on the disppearance of the ship... There's something going on...

Just wait and see, the next news will be "conflict"

[edit on 14-8-2009 by ney2x]

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 01:25 AM
Russia “Will Use Force” if Ghost Ship Found

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 01:25 AM

Originally posted by GORGANTHIUM
My theorie about this ship is that it was hijacked by the cia and sunk because some rouge russian navy officers were secretly trying to sell nuclear weapons to a nasty african or middel east country for a lot of money.

Could be, this whole case stinks horse#. And Somalian pirats did certainly not do it, the location and how it was done points to a goverment agency. Not necessarily the Us.

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 01:46 AM
ship is spotted in gibraltar and followed by a russian frigatt

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 01:56 AM
Interesting timing given that the Russian parliament passed legislation only a few days ago authorising a force response by their military to external territory. Maybe this legislation wasn't focusing on Georgia after all - depends where this ship ends up.

Hmm - two Russian submarines cruising off the US coast in the last week, one missing ship - Russian submarines out looking for the ship and will use force to regain it - Mr Chavez undoubtedly looking forward to his Russian wrapped Christmas present and telling his military in the last few days to prepare for action. Sounds like someone interrupted the delivery of some crucial cargo and we're not just talking about the wooden crate it was wrapped in.

My only question is - did the Israelis interrupt a delivery to Iran, or did the US interrupt a delivery to Venezuala?

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 03:05 AM

[edit on 14-8-2009 by WeSbO]

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 03:10 AM
what an exciting story!! S&F.

What i dont understand though is..... if their was truly a secret cargo..surely the Mainstream Media would be prohibited from even covering the story.

This makes me think.....its a DIVERSION for something else thats going on somewhere else!!!


posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 04:11 AM
There is absolutely no evidence that either the US or Israel had anything to do with this ship. That's just some nonsensical notion someone pulled out of their ... uh... hat. Might as well blame it on the Reptilians or the Illuminati or the Republicans. Each of these has as much evidence as any other country.

It certainly could be drugs. They are among the most profitable of cargos, some being worth far more than their weight in gold, literally. It could have been any sort of sensitive technology, though you'd think there would be better security for it.

It is entirely possible that the ship was hijacked. The message that the so-called Interpol police left could have been false, a message sent at gunpoint or sent by one of the hijackers. It would have bought some time for the hijackers to either take the ship somewhere, or to steal the cargo by loading it onto another ship.

It's also possible that the ship sank, either accidentally or deliberately. It may have been damaged somehow and sunk; or the hijackers may have scuttled it. Or perhaps the ship was no longer able to be steered, and there was no ability to communicate, so it's more or less sitting out there somewhere waiting for someone to find it.

There are all sorts of scenarios that don't require mysterious cargoes or international intrigue. The truth is likely to be rather boring. Of course, if there is a sudden nuclear blast in a port of Iran, then we can suspect that might have been the missing ship.

posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 04:12 AM

Originally posted by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by SLAYER69

Yes, absolutely!!!

Had that been the case, I'm afraid it would be all I'd hear about for the next 4 weeks before bombing Iran.

I am personally too wrapped up with watching which celebrity Over dosed, or where their new hot places to go are......

I'd hate to miss my celebrity breaking news...

One problem.... British media were actually discussing this in as much detail as they possibly could.

This Fox news driven paranoia that drives conspiracy theories because fox is crap has gotten old now.

I understand you may wish to see conspiracy in everything that involves crap american media services, and that you feel so important that your govt. tries to deceive you at every angle. But really.... you aren't that special, and things happen in the world without the CIA always behind everything.

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