The final kill shot for Michigan.

Sen. Debbie Stabenow, Energy Leader from Michigan wants to make Climate Change her top priority. If you read this article, you will see how Michigan is going to be dealt a death sentence. What industry is still there, will be gone and moved overseas where cap and trade don't exist. At some point people have to grow a brain and understand the Earth has cycles. And they should not be taxed.
Read the article and the comments at the end. It will give you an idea of what is happening to our world.

Detroit, Mich. - Michigan just experienced its coldest July on record; global temperatures haven't risen in more than a decade; Great Lakes water levels have resumed their 30-year cyclical rise (contrary to a decade of media scare stories that they were drying up due to global warming), and polls show that climate change doesn't even make a list of Michigan voters' top-ten concerns. Yet in an interview with the Detroit News Monday, Senator Debbie Stabenow (D., Mich.) - recently appointed to the Senate Energy Committee - made clear that fighting the climate crisis is her top priority.

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If its the furthest thing from common sense, then some politician will make it a priority. Why do we even expect anything else?

Her top priority.

Those big lobbys have enough cash and sideline/grey area benefits to make anything a politicians top priority.

Anybody suprised?????

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A terrible American tragedy. Western Michigan is my all time favorite place on God's Green Earth. I hope to retire along the shores of Lake Michigan someday. It will truly be the first state to just with and die economically and get no attention from the rest of the USA. The NWO has no interest in the people of Michigan and industry will probably never come back. It is truly sad.

I cannot tell you how very much I had the hideous wind turbines they are trying to plant along the great lakes. They are so big and so ugly you can see them for miles. Many people are completely unaware of the natural beauty of Michigan, we talking sand dunes, sunsets, that rival Hawaii (I know..I know...you think I am crazy but it is absolutely true...). I think they just want to make the whole state a wind turbine(made by GE by the way!!!!) farm...which is a tragedy...I hate those imposing monoliths which ruin the natural beauty of the state.

Hearing what has happened to Michigan as a whole over the past few years, is very disheartening. But to hear about one of their elected officials ignore the people with pulses, and brains, and houses they can't sell, just makes you want to vomit. this state needs help and cap and trade will annihilate them. I don't mean for this discussion to become political or a dem. vs. rep. thing because it's a people thing. We are going to have entire states that are wastelands. can you imagine driving through Detroit and it being like the movie " I Am Legend? ". that isn't a very far stretch considering what is going on now. Al Gore should be put in jail for starting this whole fiasco. It is nothing short of criminal.

I guess she's given up on trying to keep her husband away from the expensive hookers so she has time to drink again. Local joke but true.

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I have walked across the sleeping bear sand dunes and walked on the rocky shores of Petosky. I have seen the UP and all it's beauty, and swam in thunder bay. It is a beautiful state and needs some leadership. It just makes me sad.

Originally posted by network dude
H can you imagine driving through Detroit and it being like the movie " I Am Legend? ". that isn't a very far stretch considering what is going on now. It is nothing short of criminal.

You are absolutely right...the unions (the american entre into the socialist system) stared it by prohibiting the manufacturers from being competitive with Japan. There is still agriculture, a lot of wonderful fruit and christmas trees are grown in Michigan...so as long as that continues there is a little hope in those areas, but the death knell is ringing.

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I have been there too ...love it...love Pentwater, Michigan the best...little beach town north of Muskegon. Maybe Michigan will be like a Pheonix...die and get reborn out of the ashes...but there has been so much human agony along the way, that is what is so heartbreaking.

It's not the issues she's making priority that are so crazy, it's that Michigan voters aren't interested in the issues that their own Representative is making priority.....

So the real culprits here are the citizens of Michigan who have no idea what their voting for. They probably just see her name on the ballot with a D next to it, and thats all the info they need....typical...

on the other hand....


Lets hear her out, maybe she feels she can get a lot of fed funding and possibly create jobs by focusing on climate change....I don't know, I'm not from michigan.

I dont think this has to do with Global Warming, but the weather this summer has been really off. June and July was not very warm, and July is suppose to be the hottest month. And its now middle of August and were getting 85-90 degree weather.

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If it was global warming, it would be hot right? I don't think anyone would question the fact that climate change is real. (winter, summer, you know) but to say that it is a man made thing? no. The climate has been changing forever. As far back as we can collect data about the temperatures at different times in history, there have been changes. the ice age, that was not caused by humans. I just hate to see people waste time, money, resources, and energy to attempt to convince people that we are to blame.

Should we move from burning gasoline to a more envornmentally friendly fuel? absolutely. It will help the air we breath. It will break out dependence on foreign oil. But taxing industry for carbon offsets? that is just somebody greed praying on somebody elses stupidity (IMHO)

Originally posted by Missing Blue Sky
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A terrible American tragedy. Western Michigan is my all time favorite place on God's Green Earth. I hope to retire along the shores of Lake Michigan someday. It will truly be the first state to just with and die economically and get no attention from the rest of the USA. The NWO has no interest in the people of Michigan and industry will probably never come back. It is truly sad.

I cannot tell you how very much I had the hideous wind turbines they are trying to plant along the great lakes. They are so big and so ugly you can see them for miles. Many people are completely unaware of the natural beauty of Michigan, we talking sand dunes, sunsets, that rival Hawaii (I know..I know...you think I am crazy but it is absolutely true...). I think they just want to make the whole state a wind turbine(made by GE by the way!!!!) farm...which is a tragedy...I hate those imposing monoliths which ruin the natural beauty of the state.

Having lived my whole life in Michigan, I can agree that is is an underrated state for many reasons , including how Beautiful it is.....

People always think Detroit city all run down when they think Michigan......Outside of Detroit, it's almost nothing like that at all.....


I do know that they are building a Huge studio complex in Allen Park for the Movie industry and that more films are being filmed here and it will bring in a good amount of jobs, but losing the Auto industry was like a knife stab to the chest......It didn't kill us but it set us back a lot and did some permanent damage.....


The thing is too, we have a lot of really good people here in michigan..

Dare I say we are less cocky that many other states and just good people.....

Originally posted by mikellmikell
I guess she's given up on trying to keep her husband away from the expensive hookers so she has time to drink again. Local joke but true.

nice....almost forgot about that....thanks for reminding me. :-)

Originally posted by network dude
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I have walked across the sleeping bear sand dunes and walked on the rocky shores of Petosky. I have seen the UP and all it's beauty, and swam in thunder bay. It is a beautiful state and needs some leadership. It just makes me sad.

you seem to care a lot about Michigan even though it says you live in NC.....

You have family here?

Born here?

or just realize that we are indeed an important state?

Originally posted by Jess_Undefined
I dont think this has to do with Global Warming, but the weather this summer has been really off. June and July was not very warm, and July is suppose to be the hottest month. And its now middle of August and were getting 85-90 degree weather.

Yea I noticed that too....at least where I'm from....Macomb/Clinton Twp.... we have not really had a summer this year.....It's like the earth's cycle is pushing it back.

I remember growing up and during May ...every year would be like 75-80...

June would be 80's every day and July and august would get to 90 frequently...

This has been the coldest summer that I can remember...

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I was raised in Cleveland, but my dad is from Sandusky MI. We used to vacation in Grand Travers Bay every year. I remember going to Leland ( a small fish town in the north) and going to the cherry festival and getting sick on cherry pie due to eating too much. All the family I had that was there has passed, but I will try to take my kids there for a vacation so they can see the beauty. It is certainly a magical place and I hate to see it deal with problems that don't have to happen.

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I live in Macomb as well. It hasnt been a hot summer at all. I havent even been to the beach yet because it JUST started to get hot. Which doesnt seem right. It usually starts to get hot in beginning of July. I wonder whats going on.

Now I here the farmers are being made to give up 40% or so of their crops to government subsidies. This excess food must be detryed...what a waste.

Northern and western michigan have food a plenty for the state and there are plenty of people who need it, by government controls trump common sense again.

I learned about Michigan when I went to summer camp there when I was a teenager. My famliy and I have been trying to get up there every year for the past 7 years on vacation. Now I live too far away and miss it very very much...maybe next year.

The movie studios sound interesting...that will be great because the University of Michigan has a wonderful theatre department, one of the best in the USA, 2000 kids each year compete for 150 spots. But they also have wonderful performing arts curriculum, which includes majors like playwriting. Maybe Michigan will become a performing arts hub of middle America.