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Originally posted by nicholaswa
I realize I might be the only African American on ATS (???). I hope the moderators will understand, then, that there are some threads that cross the line, and force me to feel like I have to point out just how dumb they are, and how such notions run in opposition to the statement, "deny ignorance."
Originally posted by Donnie Darko
Hmmmm ... well it's happened in music, why not in politics?
Originally posted by jd140
reply to post by nicholaswa
I did give him a chance at cutting the debt.
But I'm from the common sense era where you can't spend money to save money. In the last 8 months all Obama has been talking about is spend, spend, spend or the good ol US of A will not survive.
it's also the reason i have never voted and never will.
because all the candidates were horrible.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Death_Kron
The question I was told to ask was what would happen if the UK had a Pakistani Prime-Minister?
A Pakistani is from a different country than the UK. A different nationality. Barack Obama is American. Not a different nationality!
I am dumbfounded at this thread. You can tell "your friend" that this is the stupidest idea I have ever heard.
Originally posted by chiron613
It seems to me that the reason Black people were so happy to see Obama take office is the same reason I was so happy - it represented one less barrier between our people ("our people" being "Americans").
It took the United States 230-odd years to elect a Black president. The reason had nothing to do with a lack of qualified Black people to take the office. It had to do with racism and distrust between people, the belief that somehow Blacks and Whites are fundamentally different.
I live in Chicago, where we've had two Black mayors I can think of (I don't much care about Chicago politics, so I don't know exactly how many we've had). We also had a woman mayor. Did the Blacks or women take over Chicago? Hardly. Mostly it was business as usual, maybe a bit more fairness for minorities, maybe not even that. Certainly the Blacks didn't take over the city as many had feared. Nor did the women take it over.
Black, White, male, female, gay, straight, Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim,, Hindu, Buddhist - it's all just people. Most of us want the same things - a safe, clean place to live, good schools for our children, jobs that offer a living wage, good health and health care, the basic things that make life worthwhile and comfortable. Sure you've got the jerks and crooks in every group, but mostly it's just people trying to get by in life and provide for their kids.
No, the "Blacks" aren't going to take over. We're just learning that it's OK to have a Black man as president. Some day we'll have a woman president, and a Muslim, and maybe even a gay president. Or maybe a Black Muslim lesbian. Some day we'll learn to judge people by their words and deeds, and not by their race, religion, gender, orientation, or all those stupid little facts we judge them by now.
Originally posted by Death_Kron
This friend of mine believes that Obama, being black himself, will put his fellow peoples best interests at heart above those of the white people.