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reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 12:41 PM by wisdomnotemotion

reply to post by jeasahtheseer

As what the masons claimed (in the news), they do lots of charities.
Why are people around me still jobless,
why was I jobless more than 1 year without financial help,
why the heck mainstream media always lie about saving needy people?

I believe masons have lush income and business contacts. And directly/indirectly Masons control the economy.

reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 12:46 PM by jeasahtheseer

reply to post by wisdomnotemotion

Well we don't give people jobs, we donate to charities. I don't know about the job situation in your country but its getting bad here too. I am currently unemployed for 6 months (thats why I'm on here a lot

) and I do get unemployment checks but its not enough and I have a wife and daughter to take care of and I'm not going to force my wife to work, I believe as a man I should take care of my wife and daughter. I feel horrible and inadequate although I am still able to provide for my family. Our standard of living has lowered the last few months, we are a young family (my wife and I are 26 and daughters 7 and my wifes pregnant again) and times are hard. I've already been unemployed for 4 months and still have 6 more to go. Me being a mason doesn't entitle me to free money or any benefits like that. Most the charities we donate to are for non masons. I can't find another job and for reasons I don't want to discuss (I'm bitter, but I was basically laid off) I can't get my old job back for 6 months. I do have a side job but its only one-two days a week and I'm more doing it to help a friend, I'm not making much. We aren't all rich and powerful, don't know about Singapore but where I live more often than not the average mason is just a average person. Absolutely anybody can become a mason if they choose.

No offense but it sounds like you know nothng about masons and are attempting to blame them for your problems, like most conspiracy theorists do. You said in another post you got in trouble for alleged hacking and lost your job, sounds like thats the gov and cops that came for you, not masons.

Anyways, sorry for ranting about my personal problems. I just wanted to show that most masons are in the same boat as everyone us. Being masons don't entitle us to anything.

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reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 12:54 PM by Skyfloating

reply to post by wisdomnotemotion

You mentioned its banking clients data being kept confidential.

Thats not "strict laws", thats respect of privacy.

reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 12:56 PM by Skyfloating

Originally posted by jeasahtheseer
Having a world run like what you describe is not considered by most masons to be paradise.

We aren't a cult and we don't want to dominate the world.

Singapore is fine in regards to diversity, human rights and individual freedoms.

Where does it say I think freemasonry is a cult and wants to dominate the world?

reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 12:58 PM by jeasahtheseer

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by jeasahtheseer
Having a world run like what you describe is not considered by most masons to be paradise.

We aren't a cult and we don't want to dominate the world.

Singapore is fine in regards to diversity, human rights and individual freedoms.

Where does it say I think freemasonry is a cult and wants to dominate the world?

I was responding to the other guy that said he lives there, not you. He said:
"Of course Singapore is a masonic paradise.

It's current law is super strict like a communist country and all oppositions with considerable impact are silenced."

Sounds like he is suggesting that masons are like that and want that for the world, when most likely its his government, not masons.

Anyways, I wasn't responding to you, just a misunderstanding.

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reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 01:26 PM by Skyfloating

reply to post by jeasahtheseer

Sorry about that. I misread.

I followed his linked post and it says he lost his job. Guess he's looking for a scapegoat.

reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 01:59 PM by Skyfloating

Originally posted by wisdomnotemotion
As what the masons claimed (in the news), they do lots of charities.
Why are people around me still jobless,
why was I jobless more than 1 year without financial help,
why the heck mainstream media always lie about saving needy people?

Because you are unemployed you are personalizing various information. It does not have much to do with this thread, singapore or freemasonry though.

Good luck finding employment

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reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 11:56 PM by KSigMason

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Thats 35 lodges in a single city (meeting in one lodge building, there could be more) - which is rather anomalous.

Actually those are not Lodges, they are a mix of Lodges and various bodies.

reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 01:44 AM by Skyfloating

Originally posted by KSigMason
Actually those are not Lodges, they are a mix of Lodges and various bodies.

That is known too and it has been brought up a few times now.

None of this does anything to discredit the idea that Singapore is a masonic creation.

reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 07:45 AM by Masonic Light

Originally posted by wisdomnotemotion

I believe masons have lush income and business contacts.

lol. Most Masons are retired, and their incomes generally consist of modest pensions and Social Security checks.

And directly/indirectly Masons control the economy.

ROFLMAO

reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 05:32 PM by KSigMason

reply to post by Skyfloating

Does it make the country anything else since a Freemason was a founder?

reply posted on 15-8-2009 @ 06:16 PM by Skyfloating

Originally posted by KSigMason

Does it make the country anything else since a Freemason was a founder?

I dont know. Im just speculating.

reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 08:29 AM by Rockpuck

Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by JoshNorton

Perhaps its not so anomalous then. It seemed so to me because thats only one lodge-building and there may be others.

The lodge building I was raised in had two different Blue "rooms" .. and several lodges. That didn't count the many lodges around the city .. granted most lodges seemed to have enough people show up to cover the officer positions.. but regardless, it was a lot of lodges in one building.

Biggest benefit is of course cheaper maintenance, revenue sharing and ease of access.. most of the lodges in the pic meet once a month, every two months etc.. so why have a free standing building? Waste of money.

Anyways, given the time period that these English Masons colonized Singapore, it was still considered a prestigious gentlemens club for those that were not quite gentlemen, especially.. (notice the WM with the lighthouse was an ESQ, which was a step below that of a Gentleman.. the Lodge would have offered him great social connections, and being a WM, prestige in his own right.)

Incidentally, what were you doing in Singapore.. wouldn't happen to be there for an evil international gathering of Masons eh?

reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 08:33 AM by Rockpuck

reply to post by wisdomnotemotion

I believe masons have lush income and business contacts. And directly/indirectly Masons control the economy.

Hmm. I am unemployed. I must be a complete retard if I join a job with a bunch of rich businessmen and can't even get a job..

reply posted on 18-4-2010 @ 03:46 PM by exposesavvy

reply to post by Skyfloating

I have watched videos based on research done in US on Freemasonry, Illuminati & Karbala (in-fact they are the same; ideology of a tomato which is a fruit being told to the masses that it is a vegetable). You may take that as a reference. The series of videos are entitled, "The Arrivals", in all there are 50 episodes.

However, DO watch it with an open mind. You decide whether are the videos truth or not. A real eye opener for me when I watched them. Don't skip the episodes, all are linked with a purpose.

In my point of view, they made sense of what is going on in this world.

You may want to download them via bit torrent. I noticed that the websites that hosts these videos have been forcibly removed! I got them via bit torrent too. You may view them from YouTube too but the series are incomplete.

reply posted on 18-4-2010 @ 04:11 PM by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by exposesavvy

I have watched videos based on research done in US on Freemasonry, Illuminati & Karbala (in-fact they are the same;

So Masonry equals Karbala? What is Karbala?

reply posted on 18-4-2010 @ 05:52 PM by prevenge

Originally posted by jeasahtheseer
reply to post by wisdomnotemotion

I am currently unemployed for 6 months (thats why I'm on here a lot ) and I do get unemployment checks but its not enough and I have a wife and daughter to take care of

/snip/

Absolutely anybody can become a mason if they choose.

woah woah.. one of the requirements of becoming a Mason is to be able to meet the $300/yr dues fee.
How can you , being unembployed.. or the bum on the street, or the starving artist, become a Mason, when you, and they, cannot meet that requirement?

This is the main requirement that has prevented me from approaching any Masons to ASK1 2B 1.

///please inform///

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reply posted on 18-4-2010 @ 07:16 PM by Fitzgibbon

Originally posted by prevenge
woah woah.. one of the requirements of becoming a Mason is to be able to meet the $300/yr dues fee.
How can you , being unembployed.. or the bum on the street, or the starving artist, become a Mason, when you, and they, cannot meet that requirement?

This is the main requirement that has prevented me from approaching any Masons to ASK1 2B 1.

///please inform///

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It's not unknown for a Lodge to stay a member's dues or the dues to be paid by another brother or brethren should a member fall on hard times. And no Lodge would (or should) take on any man who'd put Masonry before the day-to-day needs of himself or his family.

A man's duty (Mason or not) is to his family, his career and his faith ahead of any other concerns.

Fitz

reply posted on 18-4-2010 @ 09:19 PM by JoshNorton

Originally posted by prevenge
woah woah.. one of the requirements of becoming a Mason is to be able to meet the $300/yr dues fee.
How can you , being unembployed.. or the bum on the street, or the starving artist, become a Mason, when you, and they, cannot meet that requirement?

*shrug* It varies from lodge to lodge. My anual dues are only $60 a year. And yes, they can be waived if someone is going through rough times.

reply posted on 19-4-2010 @ 02:42 AM by prevenge

to both of the above....

I am unemployed.
Do I have lower chances of being looked at as a possible new member because of this?

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