Originally posted by Vasilis Azoth
That's right, the guards are all innocent.

Then why were the Nazi guards of the camps tried as war criminals at Nuremberg?

Vas

Hmm.. odd I didn't realize we were talking about Germany and WWII.

Besides, your comment is off base. The guards who were tried at Nuremberg were tried for crimes they comitted against prisoners IN the prisons. My comment was pointing out that the guards have no say on who gets sent to the prison, nor do they have a say on who is innocent or guilty.

Hey I've got a question. Would Walmart provide an adequate holding facility or is the building structure flawed if it were to hold prisoners? I mean, they have over 50 cameras per building (supercenter) and thats on the outside. Do you think that in an emergency most of the goods in the store could be replaced with detainees? Not really the possiblity of this happening, but more of a comparison to actual holding cells.

Listen, and listen carefully.

You college dormitory activists and aged hippies need to come down off your sophomoric soapboxes and stop with the horseapples about nazis, concentration camps and due process for captured insurgents. Take some instruction, buttercups...The primary reasons follow:

1) They were captured while actively engaged in attempting to subvert a Congressionally sanctioned U. S. Military action. They are not afforded the same legal rights as a U. S. citizen charged with a crime. It is not the role of the U. S. armed forces to act as law enforcement officers, where they must establish probable cause, collect supporting evidence, conduct an arraignment, convene a jury of peers, and allow a weighing of evidence and a lengthy appeals process. Any one who believes this should happen is living in a fantasy land and should probably lay off the 4:20 until their brains heal, or at least until they get out of high school.

2) Arguably, these particular 'prisoners of war' are the best treated in the history of warfare.

To wit, in modern, post-Geneva accord warfare, guerilla insurgents and soldiers captured out of uniform have been subject to summary execution - read: they got a bullet to the back of the head if they were captured. Numerous autobiographies have documented this fact -- Col. Charles Askins' "Unrepentant Sinner" (Paladin Press, 1991) specifically documented the ordered killings of uniformed Wehrmacht and SS troops who had been captured in battle. Until the VietNam era, there was precedent for it, and executions of POWs on an active battlefield was an accepted and encouraged practice.

I bring this up to punctuate the difference in the way the POWs from the Persian campaign are treated. They are well-fed, get meals consistent with their religion, are well-treated, are allowed to freely practice their religion, receive better medical care than any of us do, and have been spared the fate that many could effectively argue that they should have gotten.

3. Those of us who have been there know the truth. You aged hippies and campus activists, on the other hand, are nowhere near as smart, reasoned and as well informed as you think you are. Stop trying to live an image just because you think it's the "cool" thing to do. Grow up.

To the OP, thanks for being willing to share.

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Originally posted by shinjiikari2839
Hey I've got a question. Would Walmart provide an adequate holding facility or is the building structure flawed if it were to hold prisoners? I mean, they have over 50 cameras per building (supercenter) and thats on the outside. Do you think that in an emergency most of the goods in the store could be replaced with detainees? Not really the possiblity of this happening, but more of a comparison to actual holding cells.

We used a SAM's Club leased by the Department of Homeland Security to hold 3000 people during hurricane evacuation operations. I was part of the perimeter security detail at the site. People of course were free to come and go though. It wasn't really a detention facility.

If it had been we would of needed alot more personnel, dogs, and whole lot of nonlethal weapons, but it could probably be done.