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Originally posted by monkeykillingmonkey
The article says that in Canada where I live the population is expected to climb from 31 million to 42 million by 2050. During the same time period Uganda's population is expected to soar to from 34 million to 96 million! Most of the growth in the developed world will come from Canada and the USA. I have a baby on the way, should I feel bad??
Too many people, what's the solution??
(visit the link for the full news article)
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
There is a problem with not enough food but it has nothing to do with any "overpopulation",
Originally posted by TheFaiThfulSkepTic
I heard some reporters on NBC news i believe talking about the elections in 2016.... Why not 2012? Are they trying to avoid controversy thats connected with the numbers 2012
Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
Hmmm....I don't know if you knew this, but millions of people are starving right now.
And if your definition of sustainable, is that you have access to food all the time, then yes we are sustained right now, but again, I think the point here is that it will only get worse. There's not really a reason to keep cranking out humans...
and starvation is only 1 issue associated with overpopulation.
OK, well thats a conspiracy angle on this article. But why does everyone think it will be "via weaponry"???
Smartest idea maybe, however if there are no children who will be the country's future workers as the workers become senior citizens? Who will pay those taxes to take care of the old and the few children that are in existence? Bring in the alien workers that could affect their society in so many ways?
Originally posted by TheAntiHero420
Originally posted by TheAntiHero420
reply to post by audas
There is no population problem, it's just a theory. There is however a property ownership "problem", there isn't enough available property to go around. With all the forclosures it shouldn't be a "problem" for too much longer. We could house the entire world popultaion on one small continent (Austalia), then we have the rest of the world to grow food and such. That however is a sad thought.
Considering that the total world population is just under 7,000,000,000. the total land of Australia is 7,682,300 sq km. Thats 911 people to one square kilometer, now thats seems like alot but considering there is 600+ residents in my apartment complex that is no bigger then a football field.
There is no over population problem, just a leadership problem.
[edit on 8/6/2009 by TheAntiHero420]
From a different thread I posted in,but it seems to fit well here.
This here tells me everything I need to know about where your coming from. You want to blame selfish people for having babies. You want to blame people for doing what nature intended us to do, reproduce.
Of course it's Governments fault because if two bit thugs in poor countries would allow aid to get to the people in the form of education and awareness, then these things will work themselves out.
You have to have your head in the sand if you want to blame selfish people when people like Arafat got 55 billion dollars and the people in Palestine are living like it's 2,000 B.C. while his wife takes shopping trips in France.
Mugabe and his cronies are living large in Zimbabwe while his people die and life expectancy plummets.
So when someone blames selfish people they either don't know what they are talking about or they are enviromental wackos who think populations should be killed.
Governments control technology and label it classified to find a new weapon when this technology can be explored for other purposes.
You have to be joking.
Like I said, Arafat got 55 billion dollars and the people live in horrible conditions and he died worth close to a billion dollars.
The guy in North Korea starves his people and uses the resources so he can retain his power.
I was watching an African country where the people were eating mud pies and the country gets billions of dollars in aid.
And you have the audacity to ask what does this have to do with anything?
It has everything to do with it. If aid and education got to the people of these countries then things would be much better.
I think useful idiots are the reason Governments of the world cause problems and then waste and spend trillions to fix the problems they created.
We don't need population control but Government control.
Do you have any idea why so many people are starving around the world?...
For example, in India cows are sacred, and noone will kill a cow, or eat it's meat because it is sacred.
Then there are the caste system which pretty much puts millions of people under the shoes of others.
There is even an undesirable caste in India which take care of dirty jobs, but other castes in India sees them pretty much as a lower form of animals, and avoid the undesirables at all costs.
Then there are nations where they are not allowed to plant, or even harvest, and then there are the war lords who want control over everything hence starve people to death, such as what happens in many African nations.
Even in the U.S. we are losing farms because of ENVIRONMENTALISTS, and things will only get worse since there are less and less farms as the government shuts off water to many farms around the U.S. due to "environmental problems".
There is a problem with not enough food but it has nothing to do with any "overpopulation", it has to do with the fact that there are those who want control, and power.
If there were only 100 million people in the world, there would still be warlords, and "environmental laws' that will put most of the population in the world at risk of starvation, and disease...
They are not starving because food cannot be produced or supplied, they are starving, as a general rule, because of politics. It could be the military junta that controls the country and saps all the money needed to do any actual productive farm work (see Zimbabwe) or because they refuse to eat a perfectly good source of food (see India).
I think the point here is that it will only get worse. There's not really a reason to keep cranking out humans...
and starvation is only 1 issue associated with overpopulation.
Okay, it could be any means, but I guarantee to you that it won't end with simple adverts trying to indoctrinate people that it is good to have two children and only two children.
World faces population explosion in poor countries
The world is heading for wildly uneven population swings in the next 45 years, with many rich countries "downsizing" during a period in which almost all developing nations will grow at breakneck speed, according to a comprehensive report by leading US demographers released yesterday.
They predict that at least an extra 1,000 million will be living in the world's poorest African countries by 2050. There will be an extra 120 million more Americans, and India will leapfrog China to become the world's most populous country. One in six people in western Europe will be over the age of 65 by 2050.
A dozen countries are forecast to more than double in numbers. They are all politically, socially or environmentally volatile.
Yemen (255%) Palestine (211%) Afghanistan (187%) and Kuwait (182%) have all been involved in armed conflicts. Bhutan (113%) and Nepal (105%) are undergoing great changes.
According to records, AIDS kills 3,000 people a week in Zimbabwe. One million Zimbabweans under 15 years are AIDS orphans. 140,000 children are directly affected. The disease is said to affect one in 10 adults in the country. In comparison, cholera has killed 4,000 people since August. These figures are an indication of how hyped up AIDS and HIV are in comparison to the real killer diseases such as cholera and malaria.
No we don't need both. We don't need population control.
This is the problem with alot of people and this is why Governments get away with so much. People want to blame selfish people for reproduction.
That's just silly.
At some point people are going to have to stop being useful idiots for the Government. The Government can't run anything and they waste and spend people's wealth.
And now you want to trust them with trying to control the population? That makes no sense.
It's obvious why poor countries will grow faster in population. It's not because of selfish people having babies, it's because of despair. It's because some women can only survive in these countries through prostitution. And you have the nerve to blame selfish people when Governments live like kings as the people starve?
This is why I mentioned Palestine. It doesn't matter if Arafat is dead, he's a perfect example of the problem.
He got 55 billion and the people of Palestine only saw that money if they blew themselves up. Arafat and his cronies spent the money and then blamed America and Jews for the poor conditions.
At one point Arafat was said to be worth more than Jeff Bezos from Amazon.com yet his people live in hoorible conditions.
In Zimbabwe, Mugabe and his thugs are driving around in fancy cars while 3,000 people die weekly and the mortality rate will reach 35 years of age in 2010.
People like you want these crooks to control populations? Some people are more concerned with their ideology than reality.
The reality is if the billions these countries got in aid actually got to the people it was intended to help, that would alleviate things.
This is why you have a disparity between richer countries and poorer countries. It's because there's an imbalance between education, science and awareness.
It's not about selfish people and that mentality, is frankly sickening to me.