Originally posted by Laurauk
Both the parties are as bad as each other, when it comes to the NHS.
I used to really loathe the Tories. I was living abroad when they lost the election, and in a phone call home to a mate, he said, "yeah, man, we
kicked the tories out!" I said, "you think so?" for which I was branded a cynic at the time.
I thought, it's only a few months until they all get their noses in the trough and we'll be off again... and I never trusted Blair after I found out
he'd been vetted by the Bilderbergers. I'd like to have seen what John Smith would have done.
I think the two parties are, as you say, not very different on the NHS (and I'm not basing this on their overt policies - did anyone believe Thatch
when she said "the NHS is safe in our hands"? I know just hearing that put me on edge and worried for the future of it.
I suspect Cameron, who at least doesn't seem to be an ideologue (the downside to which is that he has no policies that haven't been through the
focus group process), won't mess with it too much. He at least slapped down that MEP we all used to think was cool until he put his head fully
inside the rectum of Fox and MSNBC.
During the Thatcher years, it was her Government whom tried to tear the NHS apart, and bring in the Private sector to replace it. This caused
the problems in the past and the continuing problems the NHS are facing today.
I suspect Cameron may have learned lessons from that time. As it seems increasingly, and depressingly, likely that he'll be our next PM, I certainly
Everything Thatcher done during her time in office, was to bring down public bodies, such as the NHS, Fire Service, Police etc,
and of course British Rail...
I have Thatch to thank, though, for waking me up to propaganda in the UK. To be fair, right wingers are so much better at it
. I can still
hear that condescending bitch saying, "you can't solve a problem by throwing money at it". Sounds so reasonable, doesn't it? But, of course, you
actually can solve many problems that way, for a start... and in fact this sneaky little phrase just covered up the real agenda: starve a public
service of funds until it starts to fall apart, and then use the excuse that it's falling apart and we couldn't afford to put it right to bring in
the private sector.
It kind of bothered me at the time that no-one really did the maths on this.
What we were being asked to accept was that it was cheaper to privatise the service concerned. Yet no one seemed to consider that on top of providing
a better service, the companies concerned were going to be taking out some pretty hefty profits.
So now we are, for example, subsidising the profits of private rail companies while service levels are worse than ever and prices are through the
,,, or to bog them down with so much red tape, they were trying to hit government targets, rather than, actually doing the job they were
trained to do so.
This is part and parcel of the Management Consultancy Disease that afflicts the UK. The Tories kicked it off, but by God New Labour (not to be
confused with the Labour Party) have taken to it like a junkie to his smack.
Another earlier poster also made a good point. We spend half as much on our health care in thie country, yet everyone's covered for free.
Does anyone now understand WHY there's such a fuss about Obamacare?
Some rich people might lose some of their profits.