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Originally posted by Double Eights
Originally posted by System
I really don't see what everyones problem is with this national healthcare. If you don't want it, go private. If you don't like the cheaper medication, then again, go private and get yourself the best. I've never had any problem with the NHS.
I still have to pay for it. Regardless of whether or not I want it.
THAT is why it's horsesh**.
Originally posted by kinda kurious
Originally posted by Rockpuck
I still would love to know where the constitution allows the FEDERAL government to regulate healthcare...
While I'd be the first to agree the Constitution is a vital and valuable document which outlines the ideology, and intangible doctrines of our great land, I'd be remiss not to point out that I don't think the Constitution (or any single document for that matter) can fully encompass the entire spectrum of the functions of Government.
That is why there were Amendments. That is why there was a Bill of Rights.
Our founding fathers although noble and just could not have anticipated the advancements in technology, medicine, science or exponential growth of America.
They could not have envisioned the vital need for the ancillary branches and departments vital to the health, safety and well being of our nations and her citizenry .
The Department of Homeland Security, Department of Defense, Department of Transportation to name a few. We've adapted the core principles and values to modern time.
It seems foolish to consider that our Founding Fathers would want a nation fraught with disease, sickness and infirmity.
Often when people bring the Constitution into the argument, I simply ask if they would like their next surgery performed with what was "State of the Art" in 1776.
(The life expectancy at that time was 50 years of age for males by the way.)
Not realizing Stephen Hawking was British and illustrating very well his acute buffoonery , as evidently , Mr Hawking , in contrast , did 'have a chance' under the allegedly useless NHS . Here is the fool's page with an edit referring to the mistake he made at the top .
"people such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the UK, where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless."
Originally posted by quackers, as I have in other threads, this isn't really about health care, this is a throwback to the anti-communist brainwashing the US was subjected to for 40-50 years. I mean god forbid your tax dollars should go towards a common good.
Well you should have just gone without the insurance since it's against the law not to treat you and they would have worked out a payment plan. Perhaps you could have figured that out if you had looked into it or perhaps you are just one of those people who can't do anything without your mommy holding your hand?
Originally posted by TreX-UK
IF it wernt for the NHS i wouldnt be here nor would my sister
or let me rephase that .. we would be here but paying the Medical bills off for the rest of our lives
We pay our National Insurance Tax to pay for the NHS ..its Extremley Over Streached Under funded and Over worked... the Nurse's and Doctors Ever one in the NHS are heros in My eyes! cause they dont get Paid # loads either!
Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
The NHS works
That is the point and why? Because we all chip in....
In the USA its like the wild west? every man for him self... we dont like tax!!!
go tell that to the FED who tax your goverment to print its own paper..
Or JFK who tried to GET RID of the FED who are a GROUP of bankers who print money out of thin are and charge you for it..
If you think im kidding? feel free to look at my thread on the fed.
You are being scammed by very rich men who like it this way..
we get taxed yes.. but we never worry about dying ..or affording to be sick
this is 21centruy Everyone should have health care.
If you do not like paying? then get sick.. and then worry about it
I am very proud that my fellow UK brothers n sisters ALL chip in for each other..
I pay for health for OTHERS and im proud of that fact
Long live the NHS
"set up by a labour government may i add"
do not vote in David Cameron hes a tool "sorry just had to add that"