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"Attention" or "Attention-Seeking"...

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posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 05:54 AM
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Attention seeking can come in many ways, but it could also be that you are seeking the attention of other people who are "like minded", these are two different types of attention seeking. What you say?




posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 05:59 AM
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Are you seeking attention seekers then, because you are an attention seeker?
Does my answering your interest now make me an attention seeker, or just a seeker of attention seekers?
Is Seeking attention seekers an attention seeking activity or just seeking?
Is the attention sought when seeked and returned, real attention or is it just another attention seekers seek of attention?

My head hurts now. I need to seek some medical attention.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 06:06 AM
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No you mis-read my initial -commentry- as I said there are "two different types" -but the "tricky" thing is that one like the other is "seeking attention", but one is seeking for like minded individuals to group with, where as the other just constantly "craves attention"- I hope your head feels better!


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posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 06:19 AM
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Whilst reading your profile- you seem rather worthy of my "attention"...



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 06:19 AM
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No, i didn't misread it, I was merely having a little play with your thread. After all, your thread is trying to seek attention.

Sorry, I should have answered you a little better though.

I think in a way there are many levels to attention seeking and not just a kind of type. In general the biggest difference is the reason or motivation behind the seeking of attention that is more significant to me.
Lke you mention, in the seeking attention of those that are like minded, the motivation may be to share thoughts or find common ground or to connect with others. It may be motivated by a need to evaluate the way we see or feel about things as a way of answering questions about issues or aspects and characteristic of ourselves. It may be to test our beliefs or find support for them. It may be a need to challenge other beliefs or thoughts.
It could be just a trait of survival, and instinct. To attract others. Safety in numbers so to speak.

And of course, it may be just for the sake of the attention itself, but that could serve to fullfill both types you mention even though the motivation is specific to just one. That seeking attention just for the sake of it could attract those that are alike, just attention seekers.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 06:27 AM
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Hmm, very interesting indeed, quite "justifed" and truthfully explained, makes me think that there is more to your "home profile" - perhaps someone who is versed in psychology??



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by catalyst2466
reply to post by atlasastro
 


Whilst reading your profile- you seem rather worthy of my "attention"...


Just returned the favour.
Another Aussie on ATS. I love it.

I am actually flying down to Melb on Saturday morning.
Going to check out the Salvador Dali Liquid desire exhibition and hang with a friend for her birthday.
I love Melbourne.
So as you would be in Melbourne I am now in love you with you too(in a platonic kind as an attention seeker of similar minds that have shared common interests that they pay their attentions too kind of way). hehe.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 06:38 AM
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"Gorgeous" -I Love It!! I have started a thread in general chit-chat for -Melbourne ATSers... I still think your reply back was quite accurate and now i'm intrigued as to what you do for a living? Say how about it Doc?



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by catalyst2466
Hmm, very interesting indeed, quite "justifed" and truthfully explained, makes me think that there is more to your "home profile" - perhaps someone who is versed in psychology??


Quite "justified".

I thought so too. Obviously.
Geez, I am now worried how little your first glance at my profile placed me in your esteem.
Do you think it is possible to portray the complexity and uniqueness of any individual in a "home page"?
There is more too everyone, when compared to everyones homepage I am willing to bet.
Take yours for instance. There isn't much there, at all.
I'll take it as the complement I hope it is though.

I hope that answers your question on what verses within psychology I am familiar with.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 07:06 AM
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So right now I am in Need of your "Attention" - "Albatross" - sorry but that is the name that fits comfortably here right now, I still am racking my brains as to what you do... Never the less it has been interesting. Psychology is a very dynamic and intriguing Subject. "Selective Attention" is something else that comes to mind, this all blends in with the case of "Attention Seeking" -though also "Addiction" is very well conclusive to "attention and addictive" -disorders.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by catalyst2466
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So right now I am in Need of your "Attention" - "Albatross" - sorry but that is the name that fits comfortably here right now, I still am racking my brains as to what you do...
Albatross
As long as its not the Charles Baudelaire kind of Albatross, I guess that is fine.
You will never guess what I do. So rack away. How is it that you would "need" the attentions of an Albatross?

Never the less it has been interesting. Psychology is a very dynamic and intriguing Subject.
Indeed it is. Dynamic, yes especially given the vast unknowns. But this also makes it exciting does it not. And dangerous.

"Selective Attention" is something else that comes to mind, this all blends in with the case of "Attention Seeking" -though also "Addiction" is very well conclusive to "attention and addictive" -disorders.
Selelctive attention is kind of silly if you ask me, as attention in definition and of itself is selective. It is a process by which we specifically select something to focus our cognitive processes on or "pay attention to" at the expense of other things. I am not trying to be smart. Saying Selective attention is like saying attentioned attention.
Addiction being Conclusive to attention and addiction? I fail to see that. If you mean conducive then I would say yes. As addiction would direct ones attention and focus it. This is motivation, or a cause. One motivated by addiction to attend to desires and serve and satisfy that addiction would indeed have ones attention.
But when you mention things like these, you are also delving into psychiatry which is different to psychology.

Attention and addictive disorders are a big topic. ADHD for instance (just to be contemporary), Addictions. with which come personality disorders.
Big topics.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 08:15 AM
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A Ha! quite amusing! Yes you are also right with my wording on "conclusive" -yes should of been "conducive" but conducive meaning that it is "conclusive" in the end -no matter. For it is the completion of conducive. The reason why I call you "Albatross" hmm lets see- it is a compliment, meaning someone with a word of wisdom. Why don't you say what you do? just a slight indicaton will do? I am now addicted to this obsession that has taken place.... Just another highly attentive energy going on... Oh and by the way there is a term in psychology such as "selective attention" - it plays subconsiously; for eg; if you were to be fixiated on the colour red, you may then keep seeing people in red clothes, cars that are red, everything around you seems to be in coincidence of the colour red. Until the obsession dies down, then one can be healed of this obsession. Though it is "classified" as "Selective Attention". Reference to this is in your basic Psychology First Year-Learning.

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posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 09:00 AM
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My occupation. What occupies me? What did I do today?
Lets make a game of it.
Today I moved around the city of Sydney all day. I have clients all over the city and surrounding suburbs. I am an employee. One of those clients is the City of Sydney itself.
Some aboriginals youths in Redfern thought I was a police officer today.
I had lunch with a recovering alcoholic who just got a housing commission unit after living on the street for two years. He bought me lunch because on monday night I visited him and I gave him a stereo, a T.V and a digital reciever, a box of food and some basic essentials.
I had to stop in at the NSW Premiers dept. for a simple and mundane matter under the agreed terms of which my services are specialised for. But my job is dangerous and not mundane.

I had a game of chess with a homeless schizophrenic man who is my friend. Who I sponsor in chess tournaments like the Doeberl Cup in the ACT. I got paid while I was doing this.
I was told I have to visit a man who is homeless, and a chronic alcoholic, and that he is in RNS hospital. I visited this man on christmas day last year after he had severe cardiac problems, renal faliure and pulmonary oedema and clotting of the lungs. He recovered but started drinking again, hence his current location in a hospital and my need to visit him.
I went to the head office of J.P. Morgan in Sydney today.
Then I made my way home by that which my occupation is dependant on but by volition my vocation it is not.

Some of these have nothing to do with my job, some of them have everything to do with my job. But what do I consider my job to be? Is it the same as what others consider my job to be?


I missed your additions in the edit you did on selective attention.
You mean selective filters. Yes I am aware of these and yet I am not in my first year of anything. An ATS example of this is when individuals in the UFO/abductee community suddenly notice the extent to which references to Aliens and UFO appear within contemporary culture after being exposed to or becomming interested in the topic. Significance is then attached to this and the person filtering in this way may begin to notice more and more ontopic reference, aswell as attributing more and more significance and meaning to this, the topic and beliefs derived from this. Atleast this is what I believe from personal experience and observation.





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posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 09:16 AM
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Wow! and I mean Wow! I absolutely commend you on your charitable and much needed work with the homeless and mentaly ill people in this world. I am absolutely moved by what you have shared. There is never enough thanks to people like yourself who Reach out and Care for those in Need. I have helped some people along the way, but I don't actually work "professionaly" in this field. Though I Do Care and Offer Support when ever I can. Thank you for sharing this, I knew you were someone special, It is people like yourself that we Need in this World- to make a better Quality. One of Equality to look after Everyone in need of sickness and poverty. God Bless You~

P.s I am not in my first year of anything either- though I have had starters and "crash courses" etc; most of anything just comes through reading and "Life Experience". Yes Ufo/abductees would have significant life changes, especially some that have "altered perception" an increased psychic ability.

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posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 09:50 AM
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Whilst focusing on this subject - One Still needs to think about "Attention" -and "Attention Seeking". It is a fundamental cause that we do Seek adventure and the "pleasures" of life. Although what we seek may be "disruptive" to our well being in life. There is a medium in what is considered to be a healthy balance in what to seek and that which is "unhealthy" that is called "Attentive Seeking".



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posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 09:54 AM
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It is interesting if done in a poll or survey as to what type of attention seeker category profile people here fit into. Some people just seem to hook up and get a room here on a thread and it's kinda sickening, like puppy love. This thread just reminds me of the personals and people sometimes lying because they're so lonely and desperate. I looked up attention seekers and found this site:

www.bullyonline.org...



Interesting read and subject.

I suppose I'm an introverted seeker of my inner child looking for closure. (whatever that means to you) People who have DID or alternate personalities are typically not alone, but may wish they were.


I recall having met a girl who had a second personality and it wasn't easy for either and for all of us. I seem to recall one of them committed suicide and the other; homicide. I'm sure many have heard that before. Sad but true.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 09:59 AM
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Thanks for that.
Those things you called charity, and the assumptions you made as to me doing it professionally are wrong.
I have a weird job where I float between the coporate world and the extremes of poverty on the streets in my city whilst doing my job, and it allows me to do a little bit of "good" but it is not exactly my job to do that. I don't consider either of them jobs. Or any of it charity. I am a normal person with a job who has chosen not to ignore that which "we" in the "employed big city life" are exposed to on a daily basis.
On the most basic of levels it is simply love. Not kept but expressed. Not for a return of love. Just given. Shared. Acted on and not just professed. Love, Pretty simple but sadly people think that this is so rare that when confronted with it, it somehow appears profound. Yet to me it does appear to be alot of it around. I guess it must be my filter.
I don't want to get too into it, you might think I am just seeking attention. hehe.

But it is not special, nor am I in anyway, just as many cracks and flaws as the next guy.
We all have it though, this love thing. You just got to pay attention to it. '
Probably why I ended up here. Seeking its likeness?

Thank you for your kind words. I have really enjoyed the discussion tonight.
I gotta hit the sack.
Goodnight Cat.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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Umm DID- multiple personalities is actually something quite rare. Although I do believe when people that drink to excess such as 'alcoholics" do often posess a "second" personality. I also don't think its anything wrong with you trying to "Seek" your "inner" self- I guess this gets complicated along the way and opens up "endless" -senarios. I would call this a searching for something deeper, its when you have ongoing behaviour that is "Attentive Seeking" that is the issue here.


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posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:38 AM
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It was here that I recalled some of my childhood and the strong likelyhood of mind control programs. Thing is, I was also diagnosed as having schizoaffective disorder which makes it difficult to seperate delusions from alters memories. I suppose I could pass a polygraph with many alleged delusions or even repressed memories that hadn't yet surfaced.

It's very much like alternate realities mixed with remote viewing techniques and very confusing. Not easy to find anyone here like that either. I don't start threads either. Thats' the rejection paranoia working. With the connection of MK ultra and remote viewing, I'm more under the impression of these alters as being possessions and remote vewing control instead. I've yet to recover knowledge of my supposed alters. Just a few vague memories. So, maybe that's even more rare or ties it to mind control technology.

I think many people have alters they use depending on the company they're in. Some of them being alter egos; lower brain vs higher brain etc.

People, such as politicians who change their accent is obvious, funny and sometimes annoying to me, like Obama in his preaching mode.

So, considering what I've allowed myself to question and believe, it is attention seeking without jumping into the thread making frying pan and fire. The benefit here is to vent without being vocal and rejecting what comes out of my own mouth. It's psychotherapy I just don't get from my therapist I've been seeing for 3 years or more.

We had a breakthrough the last visit, he now knows I like cheesecake.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:59 AM
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I totally agree about people haveing "alter ego's" -very much a part of human nature. But few will admit, although haveing been witnissed. You may need to change your current therapy with some one else new, 3 years is quite long. You know it only works if your getting results at least after being there 12 months plus. There are also some group therapies that are interesting, where you can talk and share intimately with "like minded" people. About the thread starting- what you posted could very well be a very good thread- give it a try. Your intelligent and have nothing to loose.
edit to add: I like the cheesecake-quite cute. but 3 years to cut to the cheesecake is a bit too long. Unless your Just beginning to "talk"- so this is another story.

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