Obama spreads disinfo at town hall meeting, page 1


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Topic started on 12-8-2009 @ 03:58 AM by jsobecky


reply posted on 12-8-2009 @ 04:03 AM by schrodingers dog
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Argh, come on j ...

First of all you know there's no official/compromise bill to endorse or reject yet.

Still ...

www.aarp.org...

They even have their own petition:

www.healthactionnow.org...


reply posted on 12-8-2009 @ 04:10 AM by jsobecky
Originally posted by schrodingers dog
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post by jsobecky



Argh, come on j ...

First of all you know there's no official/compromise bill to endorse or reject yet.


Even you must be aware that there is a House bill that is being touted as the model?

And you totally gloss over the fact that he mislead people into believing that the AARP endorsed his vision of health care.

And what about the single payer lie? Does that lessen the tingle for you at all?



reply posted on 12-8-2009 @ 04:51 AM by jsobecky
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Championing health care reform does not equate to endorsing Obama's vision.

And the AARP is not the topic of the thread. Obama's lies are. Like the one about his position on single payer system, which you ignore for the third time.


reply posted on 12-8-2009 @ 05:45 AM by pyrytyes
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Change we can believe in? How can I believe anything this man says? He "changes" his position every time he turns his head.

There are many flip-flops performed by him on the subject of health care, and content meaning of this bill.

Previously he said, concerning surgery, that maybe Grandma should consider NOT having the operation she needs, but rather just take the pain medication.
Which, to my ignorant ears, says her life may not be worth extending.
At this Town Hall, he tries to quell talk of "a death panel" in the house bill...

Which is it Mr. president? (intended typo)

No, I do not believe a word...


reply posted on 12-8-2009 @ 08:16 AM by damwel
reply to post by jsobecky

I beg to differ with you. Last night an aarp spokeman was on The Rachel Maddow show and he did in fact endorse the Obama plan and slammed the insurance companies for organizing the so called "astroturf" movement. He also said the media is catching on to this effort by the insurance companies to protect their profit.

On your second point, Obama did in the beginning talk about a 1 payer system but he recanted on that a long time ago.

Actually I believe it is you who are spreading disinformation, try to keep up with the facts.


reply posted on 12-8-2009 @ 10:26 PM by WTFover
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Actually,
AARP Chief Operating Officer Tom Nelson issued this statement following remarks by the President at a townhall event in New Hampshire on health care reform.

“AARP has been working with Democrats and Republicans to fix our broken health care system.

“While the President was correct that AARP will not endorse a health care reform bill that would reduce Medicare benefits, indications that we have endorsed any of the major health care reform bills currently under consideration in Congress are inaccurate.

Source: www.aarp.org...

To the OP: What I'm really getting sick of is the continuous use of the phrase "He just misspoke". Any time Gibbs is confronted with one of these outlandish lies, in a press briefing, he throws out the "misspoke" and proceeds to try to convince us that we didn't hear what we know heard.

Just once I'd like see one of the journalists walk up to the podium and punch Gibbs in the snout. He/she could get away with it just by saying "I didn't really punch you. That was just a pat on the back"! Now, I would buy a ticket to that show!


reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 01:08 AM by jsobecky
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To the OP: What I'm really getting sick of is the continuous use of the phrase "He just misspoke". Any time Gibbs is confronted with one of these outlandish lies, in a press briefing, he throws out the "misspoke" and proceeds to try to convince us that we didn't hear what we know heard.


Imagine listening to Gibbs if Joe Biden were prez...
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