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Topic started on 11-8-2009 @ 11:34 PM by MegaCurious

U.S. Launches Assault


www.foxnews.com
DAHANEH, Afghanistan — U.S. Marines have mounted a helicopter and ground assault to seize the Taliban-held town of Dahaneh in southern Afghanistan and are fighting gain control of the area ahead of next week's presidential elections.

The assault, called operation Eastern Resolve, began before dawn Wednesday, with 500 Marines and Afghan troops entering the town as others battled militants in the surrounding mountains.

The town has never before seen coalition forces.
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reply posted on 12-8-2009 @ 12:07 AM by SLAYER69
What I find rather interesting is the Over the top "Super Human" beliefs in them. They are just like any other group comprised and ran by simple humans who are subject to infighting and potential collapse just like any other group.

Nobody is perfect. This could be the first time a group such as this could see defeat.

Again I'm not stating this as fact. Just speculating is all.

I have been sitting here reading the headlines from the MSM sources and I've been noticing a possible pattern. Are parts of the fragmented Taliban falling apart? I've read some of the following reports on the Taliban training young boys for their cause now I know some will say it's just the next generation of fighters which a very real possibility. No doubt. but could it be...

Pakistan army says Taliban training boys to fight
MINGORA, Pakistan — In a voice barely above a whisper, I.H. stared at his feet as he recounted haltingly how the Taliban kidnapped him and a classmate as they played in the street. They cleaned dishes for a few days in a militant training camp in northern Pakistan before escaping during Friday prayers, he said.

The Pakistani army says it has so far found 20 boys like I.H., who is only being identified by his initials for his safety, in the battle-scarred Swat Valley, scene of a major offensive against the Taliban this spring.

They believe the Taliban hoped to turn the boys into informants, fighters or even suicide bombers. Some escaped, others were rescued by authorities. Maj. Nasir Khan said many more are believed to be in the hands of militants.


We also have another story of the head of the Pakistani Taliban being killed and that there is now a power struggle between the different factions within the organization.


National security adviser: US believes Mehsud dead
WASHINGTON — The United States is nearly certain the Pakistani Taliban's leader is dead, and there now is a leadership struggle within the terrorist group, White House national security adviser James Jones said Sunday.

Claims and counterclaims about Baitullah Mehsud's fate have swirled since a CIA missile strike last Wednesday on his father-in-law's house in Pakistan's rugged, lawless tribal area.

"Mehsud was a very bad individual, a real thug," said Jones, who appeared on three Sunday talk shows. He said the U.S. "put it in the 90 percent category" that Meshud was killed. "This is a big deal," he said.



Nobody outside of my own tinfoil hat thinking has tried to connect these dots. For some reason this just reminds me of another struggle once upon a time where one group was desperate for fighters and turned to their youth to help the struggle. Is this possibly a sign of the end? I'm not making a statement of fact just asking a question. I'm looking forward to your opinion and contributions.


Hitler Youth
By 1945, the Volkssturm was commonly drafting 12-year-old Hitler Youth members into its ranks. During the Battle of Berlin, Axmann's Hitler Youth formed a major part of the last line of German defense, and were reportedly among the fiercest fighters. Although the city commander, General Helmuth Weidling, ordered Axmann to disband the Hitler Youth combat formations; in the confusion, this order was never carried out.


[edit on 12-8-2009 by SLAYER69]


reply posted on 12-8-2009 @ 12:25 AM by n120by60w
reply to post by SLAYER69



I used too train international students for the USAF.
With that in mind I throw out.

Look at their culture.
They are obliged to give there life
& the lives of their children for the safety of a guest.
If we just became their guests it would be over.

We should be asking ourselves what is there of value?
For what reason would the thinning of the local population be productive?

Did we forget that the Russians needed a pipeline to the sea?
Do we forget the population told them to blow it out there pa zoo zaa?

I understand the Drug connection.
But there are drugs everywhere.
Have we become the Hessian's?

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[edit on 8/12/2009 by n120by60w]


reply posted on 12-8-2009 @ 01:26 AM by chiron613
The Taliban are a loosely-knit group of Muslim extremists who are convinced they are waging the Lesser Jihad - and according to their Qur'an, they *are* waging such Jihad. In Jihad, a Muslim has the right to fight any enemy on their soil that is threatening their lives of their way of life. Which is what we're doing.

By bombing innocent civilians, we are guaranteeing a steady supply of mujihaddin, those who are fighting Jihad. Every time we kill someone's family members, we gain new enemies, people who might otherwise have been content to leave us alone.

In the meantime, there is no good way to kill Taliban. It's not like it has a strict hierarchy with definite leaders. It's a loose, informal group that has cells or factions everywhere. Kill one cell, you've got hundreds of others still fighting. Kill anyone who looks like a "supreme leader", and the cells keep on fighting. In order to kill Taliban, you'd have to kill every single Taliban member. But since we can't identify who belongs and who doesn't (they don't give you a special "Taliban" uniform), that would mean we'd have to kill every single Muslim. And, powerful as we are, we cannot do this. We don't have the resources.

The Taliban isn't going away until we stop killing people over there. Even then, it will likely remain as the ultra-religious, fanatical Muslim force we invented. We created the Taliban, hoping that they'd fight and weaken the Soviet Union, who was in Afghanistan much as we are now. The Soviet Union got its bottom handed to it, losing ignominiously to a bunch of horse-riding, rifle-toting guys with far more guts than brains. And guess what's happening to us?


reply posted on 12-8-2009 @ 05:20 AM by Taikonaut
reply to post by muzzleflash



What would happen in a scenario where a tactic of total non-combative non-cooperative resistance was employed instead? Where the afghanis put down their weapons, got back to their daily lives and simply refused to engage with or acknowledge the foreign presence in their lands as if they didnt exist?

[edit on 12-8-2009 by Taikonaut]


reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 03:17 PM by RightWingAvenger
reply to post by MegaCurious



Unless US forces hire a greater number of native language speakers nothing good can happen. With over a dozen different tribes there is a serious communication break down.
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