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Swastika painted at Georgia congressman's office

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posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by 12.21.12
reply to post by LeaderOfProgress
 


I'll bet you money that guy hired somebody paint that on there so he could get attention and make a fuss!


Exactly what I was thinking. This is a false flag operation from his staff to drum up support for him after this performance from him last week.




posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by pavil

Originally posted by Avenginggecko

If the radical portion of the protests against healthcare are supported by Republicans and/or Republican interests, I'm starting to see this quickly escalating to a point that's going to backfire on the party and end up making the Democrats look much better.



What's so radical about wanting to slow down and get healthcare reform right and with as much support as possible rather than have one side quickly try to ramrod it's version of it through?

I hardly think that whoever did the painting was acting in behalf of either side. This site has taught me to ask this question: Who benefits most from this???? Course it probably wasn't the brightest candle in the box that did it either.........

[edit on 11-8-2009 by pavil]


Nothing is radical about slowing down and getting healthcare reform right. In fact, I completely agree with you


Radical is painting a swastika on the side of a Congressman's office to show your contempt for universal healthcare. And if enough people begin to reflect that radical ideal of the opposition, they could cause people to think that the opposition is being hijacked by fanatics.

Regardless of how good or bad the bill is, if people think those who oppose it are radicals/racists/whatever, then people will begin to make this logical fallacy:

The right has radicals who will use Nazism and thuggery to meet their objects, and

The right opposes Obama's health care legislation, therefore

People who oppose health care legislation are right wing radicals and thugs.


I know this is not correct, but it's a logical assumption most people will begin to make if acts like this continue. For the sake of sanity and doing what's right for the country, I hope it doesn't continue. It's probably too late for that now, though.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 10:15 PM
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Ho hum. A swastika. What an original idea.

Everybody calls everybody they don't agree with a Nazi.

Not to mention that a black man is highly unlikely to be a Nazi, seeing as how the Master Race abhors people like him.

A hammer and sickle would be equally ineffective. Many people call everybody on the left a communist.

If you're trying to seriously damage the reputation of somebody you need to come up with a real charge. Not an ineffective symbol painted by a coward in the dark of night.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 10:17 PM
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Didn't realize it was the same Congressman, interesting........



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 10:17 PM
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All of this political rhetoric is causing a large rift in the populace. If the rift continues to grow, peaceful change will not occur. If racial tensions get any higher we will have serious problems. No matter what anyones take on this is we must keep political parties and race out of the medical reform debates.

Everyone keeps thinking that there is a true difference between the republican and democrats, when in fact there is no true difference. Both parties are following corporate agendas. It makes no matter who is pushing the bill, the only thing that matters is what it contains.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by pavil
reply to post by Ferris.Bueller.II
 


Didn't realize it was the same Congressman, interesting........



Yup. One and the same.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Avenginggecko

Nothing is radical about slowing down and getting healthcare reform right. In fact, I completely agree with you


Radical is painting a swastika on the side of a Congressman's office to show your contempt for universal healthcare. And if enough people begin to reflect that radical ideal of the opposition, they could cause people to think that the opposition is being hijacked by fanatics.

Regardless of how good or bad the bill is, if people think those who oppose it are radicals/racists/whatever, then people will begin to make this logical fallacy:

The right has radicals who will use Nazism and thuggery to meet their objects, and

The right opposes Obama's health care legislation, therefore

People who oppose health care legislation are right wing radicals and thugs.


I know this is not correct, but it's a logical assumption most people will begin to make if acts like this continue. For the sake of sanity and doing what's right for the country, I hope it doesn't continue. It's probably too late for that now, though.


I'm glad we see eye to eye about getting it right. Like I have said, this site has taught me to question; who benefits most from something like this? Who benefits most from making one side look bad? I wouldn't put it past either side to manipulate this event and we don't know for a fact who actually did it.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 10:32 PM
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Fascism is about a corporate state. Fascism sometimes has led to Eugenics and Euthanasia. There are provisions in the new health care bill(s) that could quickly lead to both Eugenics and Euthanasia. Who a fascist corporate state determines is not fit for the corporate fascist state and must be eliminated is entirely dependent upon the Dictator and policy makers of a fascist state.

That fascism in Germany promoted blonde haired blue eyed Aryans as being the ideal perfect citizen does not mean fascism here in the United States is going to seek the same. That the fascist state in Germany targeted certain political, political/religious groups, religious groups, ethnic/political groups, ethnic groups, and those practicing alternative sexual lifestyles in and of itself did not define the fascist state but was simply part of a policy of a fascist state. Zionists actually met with Nazis in 1942 in Greece to seek a German alliance to drive the British out of Palestine and promised they would create a fascist state in exchange for German political and military support. It’s well documented and a matter of history that this took place. So in fact, Jews can be Nazis and some Zionists actually wanted to be Nazis and set up Israel to be a state for all the Jews but following Nazi Fascist principals. Blacks, Puerto Ricans, Australians, American Indians, Homosexuals, Tree Huggers, Whale Savers, Vegans, etc., etc., could all be Fascists, could all be Nazis, it simply requires forming a State where the government and corporations are one with a strong totalitarian dictatorship.

The corners to fascism are:

A strong Military Industrial Complex (check)
A Strong Security Industrial Complex (check)
A Strong Prison Industrial Complex (check)
A Great Decider (double check)

Fascism exists and lives and breaths in America and one of the reasons Americans have gotten tricked into becoming a Fascist State is because a distorted propagandized view of history for political purposes has confused people into thinking Nazis were all about being racists and little or nothing else. Eugenics and Euthanasia are part of a Corporate State, but who becomes imperfect for a corporate state is up to the State itself to decide, not a long dead German dictator and his policies at that point in time and space, but an alive and well dictator and corporate government in this point in time and space.

The swastika is apropos considering how the government is run. It is a fascist government and has been for decades now. Eisenhower warned us it was happening when he left office his last words were “keep your eyes on the Military Industrial Complex it is a very dangerous thing.”

No one did. You have been witnessing the result now for decades. This is Amerika.


[edit on 11/8/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 10:40 PM
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Great thread...


Don't expect it to get play on ATS though...

Any evidence linking anti-healthcare protesters to death threats and swastikas will be completely ignored.

No, instead you will only hear more people supporting these "concerned citizens" who are "standing up for themselves" and find being compared to Hitler "Very shocking" while they go about spraying swastikas.



Don't believe me... check out the number of flags on this thread...

[edit on 11-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka

Any evidence linking anti-healthcare protesters to death threats and swastikas will be completely ignored.



And what exactly is your hard evidence that anti-healthcare (nice misnomer) protesters did this swastika painting? Let's find out who did it first.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 10:46 PM
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don't forget that ATS is not immune to disinfo agents and agencies

funny they make themselves so transparent sometimes




posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 11:00 PM
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Oh goodness. The Government spin in here is pretty hard at work.

Just like with the Pelosi comments.
This isn't about racism, you silly spooks. This is about the fact that the so called 'racists' are calling the POLITICIANS Nazis.

Labelling them a Progressive Socialist isn't racist.

This wasn't a calling card for a skinhead, this was a very concerned citizen making their voice heard best they could since the Media or the Representatives themselves won't let their voices heard.

Taxation without representation is something most people should remember well.

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

The writing is on the wall. Literally.

PS - I didn't make it past like post three before I had to post. Sorry if I offended any real unpaid contributors here.

[edit on 11-8-2009 by JayinAR]

[edit on 11-8-2009 by JayinAR]



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 11:30 PM
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It would have been more fitting on Pelosi's office.

As far as the race comment goes, that offends me.

I was offended last week at the soup kitchen down town. All I heard over and over is




Cracker, Cracker, Cracker!

It made me feel bad...............



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 11:31 PM
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BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!

2nd line



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 11:41 PM
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I am ashamed that such people call themselves American. The people who paint the swastikas and the people, right here on ATS, who say this is some government conspiracy to discredit patriots.

Discredit what? You guys do a good enough job doing that yourself. You go out on message boards, insist that President Obama is not a citizen and you now accuse the government of painting a swastika on one of their own.

I will say this, though, the evidence is what matters and right now the evidence poitns straight at you "patriots." A few days ago, protestors came to a town hall meeting carrying pictures of Nazi symbology, accusing the administration of being Nazi-like.

I think its pretty obvious who is responsible for this despicable act.

As for the OP, "don't make this about race?" Don't kid yourself. Your likeminded comrades made this about race the moment they painted a swastika.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 11:48 PM
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I cannot imagine a congressman's office not being under surveillance. There has to be a video of the bldg.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 11:54 PM
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Oh good grief.

What is despicable about it?
The person is speaking their mind. Afterall, Obama's "Town Hall Meeting" was invite only.

Congressmen across the nation are either locking out all opposing views or cancelling "town hall meetings" all together (some town hall meeting. ever been to a real one?)...

This is blatant taxation without representation and people are SICK of the Naziesque approach this administration is taking.

Plain and simple.

A swastika on your door as a statement is much more acceptable than some other things I could think of right now.

Paul Revere is riding tonight, yet you are calling him a "racist?"

Another spook.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 11:56 PM
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From here on out anybody that uses the race card is going to be called a spook.
Turnabout is fair enough, right?



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 12:04 AM
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Jeepers, it's just a swastika


That's all folks

a swastika


Little kids who've been indoctrinated into believing the swastika is THE BIG EVIL SIGN draw it in the dirt in the playground

Why does the mainstream fall all about over a swastika ? Why does it elicit high-drama?

Let's prove we've grown up just a little bit and start behaving like the 'evolved' creatures we flatter ourselves we are ?

Symbols daubed on walls and doors are just that .. evidence of infantilism.
Diversion, distractions.

If we're going to get heated and emotional about a symbol some clown allegedly drew on a door, we might as well toss in the towel and climb back into the trees



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by warrenb
reply to post by LeaderOfProgress
 


Is it just me or are TPTB trying really hard to make the health bill opposition seen as wrong, evil, strange or scary?

that's how I'm seeing it



The parties in America have always done this kind of crap. It's politics. But this time, it seems different. They are talking about communist government actions, from health care to disarming us so we can't oppose their tyranny. And, I should say, raising our taxes above the 75% of GNP that they already are. The needs of the many outway the needs of the few. Seems logical. But that is not how it always comes down. It sets up a class of gov, and a class of their subservient slaves. Many would argue that this has already happened here. I would say that our government is the worst in the world, with the exception of all the rest. If we have time, I strongly suspect that there is another revolution about to commence. And I plan on high tailin it out, first.



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