The little girl who talked about mean signs at the Obama town hall (Dem plant - proof)

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posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Seventy percent of the audience was random. That means 30% were chosen to be there. Can anyone show a claim that the audience was 100% random?

FOX News



About 1,800 people are expected for that midday event in the Democratic-leaning Seacoast region of the Granite State. Of those, 70 percent were given tickets based on a random lottery -- a potentially dicey crowd in a state known for its grass-roots political activism.




How random would that lottery be if those in the "pool" were Administration supporters? It would sound as if it were random, but it would be like asking Red Sox fans to go into a random "lottery" for Red Sox tickets. Not saying that did or did not happen, just that it is possible to stack the deck that way.




posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 09:21 AM
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Since nobody has added them yet:




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posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by pavil
How random would that lottery be if those in the "pool" were Administration supporters?


Oh, Lord.


Kathleen Manning Hall and her daughter were obviously NOT part of the 70% random drawing. They were included in the 30% who were invited.

And I have no doubt that the question was written by the mother (a staunch Obama supporter) for the daughter to read as a way to give Obama the opportunity to squelch some of the insane rumors circulating by the Republican base, about his health bill.

If you still don't understand it, I'll be happy to explain further.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 09:46 AM
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Oh I understand BH. I just mention it in that President Obama was asking for "tough questions" and in a crowd that was supposedly 70% random and not one anti-goverment healthcare person managed to get a question in???? That, along with the "Yes we can" chants tells me that the crowd was not nearly as "random" as you portray it to be.

You obviously see it otherwise, even though you admit the childs question was a setup piece.

Thank you.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 09:55 AM
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S+F and Digged.

It seems that Kathleen Manning Hall has pulled her Facebook page.

It's weird, when you click on the Link it forwards you to Facebooks home page.

If you type Kathleen Manning Hall into Google her Facebook page comes up which is cached so I took a screen shot of that.



[edit on 12-8-2009 by lucentenigma]



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by pavil
I just mention it in that President Obama was asking for "tough questions" and in a crowd that was supposedly 70% random and not one anti-goverment healthcare person managed to get a question in????


The area is highly Democratic. It's completely reasonable that most of the attendees were Obama supporters and that, of the few people called on, a dissenter might not be among them. And the whole purpose of these meetings is to get the information about the health care plan out there, not argue, yell, get angry and cause a disturbance, as is so popular these days.



That, along with the "Yes we can" chants tells me that the crowd was not nearly as "random" as you portray it to be.


I don't portray anything. I sourced FOX news. I heard about the 70% random on TV yesterday. It's not like it's a secret.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by zerbot565
S & F .

this is what people call brainwashing and misleading truth.

again and again they are making your health a political issue to gain personal money and fame instead of providing it to you by your tax money to secure your and your familys health.

that little girl will hate that day for the rest of her adult life if she ever can afford the healthcare she´ll be needing with all the yummy heavymetals the goverment provides you.



It was a good question and one that needed to be answered,



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by Mr.Hyde
They even chanted 'Yes we can' just like in Obamas campaign days. It seemed like a staged campaign event and not a completely random selection of people from NH with real, hard hitting questions they advertised the event as.



He has a lot of supporters in New Hampshire. Are you surprised?



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
I knew this "Town Hall" was a set-up for the word go, but it confirmed it when the people in the crowd started chanting "Yes We Can" in synchronicity and started all at the same time.

Then this little girl got "chosen" to ask a question, heard the question and that was it, all my suspicions were confirmed.

I don't know how much lower they can stoop. I'm sure they will and even then I won't be surprised.


She could have asked "is it boxers or briefs?"



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:44 AM
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what good is a town hall meeting to get the publics opinion if half the audience is stacked with political cronies?

total farce

any way you slice this its a sham.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Power_Semi
What an absolutely fantastic example of a loaded question - it's so typically political that she must be a plant - I mean what kid would even think of asking a question like that, it has everything.

If you accept the question at face value without thinking about it, then subconsciously you are agreeing with the statements contained within the question - a typically Bernays method of swaying public opinion:

"As I was walking in I saw a lot of signs outside saying mean things about reforming healthcare. How do kids know what is true and why do people want a new system that can help more of us".

It creates them & us (us being people who want a new system that will help more of us - ie, the good guys - & them being the nasty people who say mean things & don't want to help more people - who do you want to be - a good guy who wants to help more people or someone mean?)

I also love how she asks how do they know what is true & then makes the statement "(why do) peopel want a new system...." in the same sentence.


My grandson is 15 and is smarter than most adults I know. He is very politically involved. He has asked me questions that are "loaded". So please don't underestimate this young girl. You never know.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:47 AM
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I like how whenever they do this they always go to these "Massified" towns full of yuppies and Massholes with their 3rd vacation homes and such.

Come on Obama. Come on up to Pittsburg, NH. Come see the small farmers. Come see the people who are tired of having their property taken at gun point.

He may as well have gone to Boston.

At least there were some real NH residents outside angry and strapped.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:52 AM
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Roll back the Bush tax cuts.......limit tax deductions for the rich, (I pay for the taxes they get out of) and tax loopholes. That's how you pay for it. I think more people should READ this bill on their own, the whole bill, and not be blindsided by word of mouth from the fear mongers.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:54 AM
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This is one of the reason I love ATS so much.


Fantastic find and research.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
And the whole purpose of these meetings is to get the information about the health care plan out there, not argue, yell, get angry and cause a disturbance, as is so popular these days.



That's the problem isn't it.
Back when these were started it was touted as a way to get the politician in touch with the people. It was intended to let the PEOPLE be heard. The politician can just have a press conference if he wants others to hear him. This particular politician has the ability to address the entire nation.

The idea that a town hall meeting is placed in an area of Obama supporters with 30% selected and 70% random from a pool of obama supporters so that Obama can explain health care to them is laughable. It's a dog and pony show and doesn't come any where close to reality.

The PEOPLE WANT TO BE HEARD. If yelling and screaming is the only way that anybody will listen then more power to them. Get the message out with the mob.

Better to scream bloody murder and prevent another disaster for the taxpayers than to smile politely while they steal what little we have left in our wallets.

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posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 10:59 AM
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Star and flag for the great work finding that! Get it to the MSM.

I hate to say, but I would do the same and plant people to ask me questions if I was President. The Sheeple will never know



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 11:00 AM
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Great Research. I can't belive that people are still supporting hin despite the myriad of evidence against him. Must be great kool-aid.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 11:04 AM
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It's sad that she should have to resort to this, it actually shows she is trying to hide something.

Whatever happened to Truth?





Originally posted by lucentenigma
S+F and Digged.

It seems that Kathleen Manning Hall has pulled her Facebook page.

It's weird, when you click on the Link it forwards you to Facebooks home page.

If you type Kathleen Manning Hall into Google her Facebook page comes up which is cached so I took a screen shot of that.



[edit on 12-8-2009 by lucentenigma]



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by badgerprints
It's a dog and pony show and doesn't come any where close to reality.


I agree that it's a dog and pony show. And is probably no closer to reality than the yelling and screaming mobs who have been set up by the Republican Party to sidetrack the issues at other Town Halls.

Funny how you're all for the dog and pony show on the right (yelling, screaming, insanity) but have too much honor to accept it when the other side responds with their own form of dog and pony show... :shk:



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Funny how you're all for the dog and pony show on the right (yelling, screaming, insanity) but have too much honor to accept it when the other side responds with their own form of dog and pony show... :shk:



Ha,
The idea that has been pushed for weeks now is that there are no citizens that would actually stand up and say what they think. If it's a middle class American taxpayer who disagrees with Obamas "health care" plan then they are just consevative set ups.
How is it possible that you believe pissed off Americans that will stand up and say what they think dont exist?
An orchestrated lie is fine with you, but real people who are fed up with being stolen from are somehow a dog and pony show?

How is it possible that there are no real people in your world?





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