Obama compares health care to mail delivery & sticks foot in mouth, page
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reply posted on 11-8-2009 @ 02:32 PM by KSPigpen
reply to post by THX-1138


Aw man....so now are healthcare is going to be like the postal service? I hope they send it insured...oh, wait, that's not going to possible, is it?


reply posted on 11-8-2009 @ 02:36 PM by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by THX-1138


LOL you know I never even thought of mentioning the post office in my postings here. I went on about SSI,and Medicare, and the VA.... Put the Post office is the only goverment entity that actual makes money and now look at it its loosing money like the econmys loosing jobs.



reply posted on 11-8-2009 @ 02:50 PM by Artephius Abraxas Helios
Please pay attention I only want to have to explain this once more. The President has not, and will not, support a single payer system. This means that the health care reform the rest of us grown ups are discussing is one in which the private health care industry and private insurance carriers all continue to exist just as they do now. The plan that is before congress (which is not finalized) is one that allows for people to choose from a group of private insurance options which have been "pooled" together so that the individual can bargain with INS carriers in much the same way as other large corporations. Thus driving down cost. Along with all of the private INS options the plan also proposes a public option which would be a government paid insurance option, NOT government doctors etc. This OPTION is what Obama compared to the USPS. He said, that it would not put the private options out of business, in much the same way the USPS does not put Fed Ex out of business. There are some things the USPS does better and cheaper than anyone else and they are d*mn good at their jobs. But if you want to pay more for faster and sometimes better service there are several private companies that can accommodate you. In much the same way, if you are happy with your private insurance and can afford it, this reform will NOT effect you. But if you are like me and self employed and thus have a problem affording good health insurance for myself and my family, the plan will offer me several good private options that I should be able to afford and a public option which like the USPS may be just what I am looking for. If you cannot understand the analogy that is one thing, but if you intentionally misrepresent it to control the dialogue that is quite another thing altogether. So my question to you is, which is it?

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reply posted on 11-8-2009 @ 02:53 PM by THX-1138
reply to post by Artephius Abraxas Helios

Uhhhh... he is saying the government run service provider is the one that is always having problems. You can try to help Obama all you want. He needs some help.


reply posted on 11-8-2009 @ 03:09 PM by Artephius Abraxas Helios
reply to post by THX-1138

I am not an Obama supporter. I am a life long registered Republican. And I am a veteran, who gets my heath care from the VA because I cannot afford private care. I am not trying to help Obama at all.

I am trying to help the discussion on ATS have some honesty and clarity which has been missing this last couple of weeks. To the point, Obama was not speaking about a "government health care provider" but a government health insurance provider. He was not saying you would receive lower quality care, but options on different insurance plans.

However, you attempt to make the point that the government run "plan/provider" is the one having problems. I do not think that is always the case but let's say I concede that point, how then, does having such an OPTION hurt the ability of the private Insurance carriers to continue providing their own versions of health insurance.

Im afraid it doesn't and thus, again, it appears that hard working honest Americans have become the unwitting tools of the largest and richest corporations in America, i.e. those poor insurance companies need you out there defending their rights to quintuple profits every few years or so. Please?!?

You cannot have it both ways, if the Government is incapable of producing a quality insurance option why are the Insurance companies spending millions of dollars a day to fight health care reform... Think about it. Something simply does not add up.

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reply posted on 11-8-2009 @ 05:50 PM by Eurisko2012
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by THX-1138


LOL you know I never even thought of mentioning the post office in my postings here. I went on about SSI,and Medicare, and the VA.... Put the Post office is the only goverment entity that actual makes money and now look at it its loosing money like the econmys loosing jobs.


I heard the Post Office is thinking about cutting delivering the mail
from 6 days to 5 days.
God help us if we get the Canadian Health Care system when the
privates are run out of business.
I heard the Canadians will fly to India for surgery if America goes
down the toilet with ObamaCare.


reply posted on 29-3-2010 @ 04:15 PM by Divinorumus
Originally posted by THX-1138
He did it again. Obama made a fool of himself by comparing health care to mail delivery, and then admitting that the government run service provider is the one having problems. He just can't get it right. The guy needs advice from Joe Biden.

When I saw THIS REPORT (Postal Service to file five-day-delivery proposal) in the news today, I had to hunt for this post to add too it.

We all better plan on not getting ill during weekends once this new obama commie health care is rolled out, if this is how uncle sham handles things.


reply posted on 30-3-2010 @ 12:58 AM by Rockpuck
reply to post by Artephius Abraxas Helios


Indeed.. so it's the same exact thing as a single payer option ...... oonnnlllyyyy it's through a private company(ies) .. subsidized by the government .. err... same thing, just with a (few) middle men.

I don't know, I was pretty against the government sponsored insurance plan, but I feel even more certain that this plan (ie, the fascist plan) is far, far worse.
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