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Confess to the American and French interference in Iran Shvbhay
Political groups: the western states to support disturbances after presidential elections in Iran, although in recent days from the defendants in the sedition trial has been raised, but that Western officials to intervene in the disturbances can confess, subjects that will prove the Chaos outside our country is planning disrespecting.
French Embassy in Tehran from Paris, took command
French Embassy in Tehran from Paris, took command
Half days after the speech Hillary Clinton, and he confessed to involvement in the disturbances of the American, French Foreign Minister acknowledged; Embassy in Tehran in this country for prosecution under the protection of demonstrators, was ordered from Paris. Klvtyld Race 24-year-old citizen of France company charges in the recent disturbances in Tehran and prepare a report for the Institute affiliated to France, arrested Saturday and accused in court trials in recent Shvbhay, has confessed to the storm and illegal presence in Tehran Myyafth the Institute for ambassadorial France Tehran is prepared report. This was the confession that Kouchner, the French Foreign Minister acknowledged support from the French disturbances in Iran, the French Embassy employee speech to verify. Thin Afshar, the Iranian Embassy employee France on Saturday, the French Embassy in one of the centers safe for the demonstrators recent disturbances was consider خKouchner said in conversation with the newspaper Lvparyzyn: Thin Afshar said that was correct.
Iran’s powers are at boiling point, Ahmadinejad and Khamenei are being deserted ever more :
- Conservative media publishes about horrors of rape, torture & murder…
- Motahari calling Taeb’s name for the first time, accusing him for atrocities.
- Katouzian demanding Moghadam’s head in paper & saying he (& deputies) bear responsibility for crimes against humanity.
- Commander of Sepah Army distanced himself from Head of Political Bureau.
- High ranking Police officers testifying against Basij/Ansari/IRGC Intel in writing & under oath to Khobregan…
- Grand Ayatollah Sistani said: “Trials are outright tyranny & shameful.”
Originally posted by Laurauk
More Propaghanda, anything that comes out of Iran nowadays, I take that with a pinch of salt.
Just shows how far the regime will go before they acually decide to take responsibility, for what has occured in Iran.
Until then, I will not believe anything that comes out of that country.
[edit on 11-8-2009 by Laurauk]
Originally posted by Laurauk
More Propaghanda, anything that comes out of Iran nowadays, I take that with a pinch of salt.
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by Laurauk
More Propaghanda, anything that comes out of Iran nowadays, I take that with a pinch of salt.
That's just the thing. I can't take anything the gov o Iran says seriously anymore.
They have lost all credibility.
Originally posted by john124
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by Laurauk
More Propaghanda, anything that comes out of Iran nowadays, I take that with a pinch of salt.
That's just the thing. I can't take anything the gov o Iran says seriously anymore.
They have lost all credibility.
Yes!!!!!!!
YES YES !!!
That is my point entirely......
I want everybody to accept that they cannot be taken seriously, not one bit!
They throw accussation around without proof, and just because one of those agrees with many people's interpretations of evil CIA being involved everywhere, then they lap it up like dogs..... but I'm glad so far everybody has recognised that this regime is too ridiculous to take their word on anything!!
And it's ironic those who have critisiced my view all along are no longer around posting messages of criticism.
[edit on 12-8-2009 by john124]
Originally posted by Zerbst
Originally posted by john124
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by Laurauk
More Propaghanda, anything that comes out of Iran nowadays, I take that with a pinch of salt.
That's just the thing. I can't take anything the gov o Iran says seriously anymore.
They have lost all credibility.
Yes!!!!!!!
YES YES !!!
That is my point entirely......
I want everybody to accept that they cannot be taken seriously, not one bit!
They throw accussation around without proof, and just because one of those agrees with many people's interpretations of evil CIA being involved everywhere, then they lap it up like dogs..... but I'm glad so far everybody has recognised that this regime is too ridiculous to take their word on anything!!
And it's ironic those who have critisiced my view all along are no longer around posting messages of criticism.
[edit on 12-8-2009 by john124]
What is causing the stupidity in mankind that allows such blatant double standards? This mentality, that you are apparently unaware of, is as ridiculous as it is illogical. You seem to have concluded that Iran alone is to be held accountable for their dishonesty? That you have shown without doubt, Iran's political posturing and propaganda are not to be related to other governments seemingly equal deeds, but held as unique? Only Iran is to lose credibility from these common practices, while other governments practice of this is honorable? If that wasn't idiotic enough, their suspicions of CIA involvement are warranted, to say the very least!
Timeline - CIA involvement in Iran
It's no secret, in fact it is well DOCUMENTED, the CIA has been steadily involved in Iran's affairs since 1953. In 1953, the CIA led coup called Operation Ajax successfully overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran in order to install a pro western dictator in its place. Again, well documented historical fact. This CIA installed dictators bloody reign lasted 30 years, causing serious setbacks in the countries prosperity.
So, according to you, Iran is ridiculous and nothing they say should be taken seriously? The US however, despite their history and massive motive for doing it again, can lie and spread propaganda all they want without harm to their credibility?
This is your logic? This makes perfect sense to you? I cannot make myself believe you are this dense? Nobody can be this thick-headed and nonsensical? Sense you can't be this simple minded, you must have an agenda! It's not ironic that people aren't debating you, there is simply nothing logical in your views to discuss. Your views are nothing more than senseless drivel.
Peace.
No matter what the US says or does, you willingly lap it up like a dog!
Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to post by Zerbst
Hold on a minute!
There I thought it was the UK, whom was getting the blame for all of this. Nice to know we are not the only one supposinlgy invovled.
Oh And I suppose the kiling of an innocent woman was the work of the CIA or Western Government also That initself is complete lie and you know it!
Whatever the west may exaggerate about Iran does not change these facts. And whatever propaganda you feel the west may be using does not change this regime's behaviour towards its own people. And this regime is using propaganda on a scale that is comparable to nazi propaganda.
You can't really build up knowledge on other country's based on previous US involvement alone, otherwise it leads you to outbursts which only embarrass yourself in the long run.
Also I'm not disputing past US actions in Iran. I'm showing how this regime's version of the truth is distorted. These words are there own, not CIA influenced. The regime's own actions have shown to anger their own people even more, and this is a typical Iranian person's point of view if you actually did your research.
Where is your evidence of CIA involvement apart from previous motives, or are you going to admit your arrogance?
My logic is based on facts, your so-called logic is based on conjecture.
This is how things are whether you like it or not.
I don't think many people in the west understand what is happening in Iran, therefore they don't have much to discuss in terms of posting, or have mistakenly thought it had gone away just because there are no large scale protests, and their media have stopped reporting in any detail. When in actual fact the opposition in still alive.
Whether you base your views on limited knowledge of Iran from US-Iran relations only and not on present experiences, or if you believe in the regime propaganda, you are still incorrect!
Originally posted by Zerbst
reply to post by john124
First of all, I have not accused the CIA, or anyone else, of anything whatsoever. Nor am I comparing American and Iranian propaganda. All I did was point out the double standards in your illogical theorizing. If you're going to denounce legitimacy toward governments for lying and using propaganda, then you must denounce all governments. You claim that the Iranian government has no credibility due to their claims regarding statements made by the French foreign minister? The fact of the matter is that nobody can make this claim in absence of certain information.
You're using the failed method of closed world assumptions where you presume all that has not been proven true, is false. I use the logical open world assumption method that states all that has not been proven true, is unknown. The only thing you have exposed here is your lack of information, and your obvious agenda. You use this same twisted theorizing to condemn Iran, support the west and all while making false accusations towards me?
You said, whatever the west may exaggerate about Iran does not change the fact that Iran is ridiculous for exaggerating about the west? Do you see the ignorance in your double standard here?
Then you claim it all based on facts, but what I am saying here is conjecture? You cannot expect anyone to take you seriously? And this is a classic example of your upside down world!
You just completely made all that up in your soft head. It's all your propaganda and this time it truly is ridiculous! Besides, I looked at your ATS history and confirmed your agenda here. You just love the war mongers of USA and Israel, while you spread nothing but venomous hate toward China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela and anything like it. You my friend are virtually transparent!
Peace.
It's no secret, in fact it is well DOCUMENTED, the CIA has been steadily involved in Iran's affairs since 1953.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
As usual Zerbst is correct.
Double hypocritical standards. The usual suspects always show up ready to pour some gasoline and indignation on things, sensationalize it to the extreme, feign some righteous indignation and pat each other on the back for their lack of actual knowledge or research.
I am surprised a couple of you don't have Iran being the real power behind the reason people are protesting the health care bill in America.
Global warming? Must be Iran.
People starving in Africa? Must be Iran.
Oh those demonstrations in London at the G-8...Iran!
Oh the Tea parties in America...Iran!
The ousted Honduran President...Iran!
Your spouse left you...Iran!
You got a speeding ticket...Iran
Well I ran out of silly things to make up and blame on Iran, I wonder how long it will take the usual suspects to figure out...no Americans don't really want to fight Iran for you.
Iran has had Western intelligence agencies trying to destabilize it for years. You can find out a lot about real technology by looking at patents.
You can find out about real intelligence efforts by looking at budgets!
I guess the I ran to Youtube crowd to get some sensationalized propganda to propogandize never actually runs to an actual library!
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by john124
There are so many regimes throughout the world that violate human rights (including Israel and the United States and Great Britan).
Yet it's always the regime that Israel or the U.K. or the U.S. wants to go to war with next that always gets the attention.
People in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones you know.
I am of the oppinion if we concentrated on cleaning up our own backyard here in the U.S. we would be a lot better off for it and so would be the rest of the world.
But the imperialist, brainwashed, often paid for schills of the Military/Industrial complex have to have something to vent their repressed frustration over their own ability to be happy and loved in life.
So you pick a target, any target, that your programers want you to target and work yourself up into these silly states of false indignation and rightousness, like the United States, the. U.K., and Israel doesn't have enough cold blooded blood on their hands already from their endless greed and lust for expansion and dominance.
Some people are more sensible than that.
You should stop picking on Iran and start picking on your Nanny state that programs and brainwashes you into making everyone else's problems that you can't solve, your pretend problems, that your factless rants can't solve, to distract you from solving the fact that you live in a Nanny State, a war mongering imperialistic one at that!
I would be mad at your own government not Irans.
But then again I am capable of independent thought and reflection.