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My Mom Refuses Swine Flu Vaccine

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posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 07:42 AM
I just had a long discussion with my mother who is an OT, and has worked in a hospital or geriatric center for her entire life.

She has apparently known about the horrors of vaccines for a while now but never brought it up with me directly until just now. While she was working at Froedtert Memorial Hospital, she bore whiteness to dozens of US servicemen who had contracted Guillain Barre syndrome. They all came out of the Great Lakes Naval Recruit Training Center which is about an hour away from Froedtert. Froedtert is the closest mega hospital to the training center.

She was paying particular attention to the number of servicemen coming in because I had just gotten out of the Navy myself. The huge spike in servicemen contracting the disease happened during the same time the military started vaccinations for Anthrax. Had I stayed in the service just a tad longer, I too would have been subject to anthrax vaccination, which had her extremely worried. She even called me near the end of my service and made me promise not to take the vaccine if it was offered.

The swine flu vaccine currently being distributed is THE SAME STUFF as the anthrax vaccine. It contains aluminum adjuvants, squalene, and thiomersal. The anthrax vaccine was also rushed through without any real testing, just as this vaccine has been rushed through without any real testing. There have been published medical reports linking squalene to Gulf War syndrome.

She expects the same results to occur.

Now since she is in the medical field, her hospital may mandate that she take the swine flu vaccine. So now she is extremely concerned about this because she isn't sure if she wants to take the risk of an injection. Her supervisor is also aware of the inherent dangers of this vaccine and shares her concerns.

My dad lost his job recently, so that puts added pressure on her to take the vaccine if it becomes mandatory for healthcare workers.

Just thought I'd share this story with you all.

posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 08:22 AM
Thank you for sharing this. My husband and I had this conversation the other night and he knows my concerns about giving the vaccine to our son. He is completely opposite in that he wants our son to have the shot. I say no way!

This virus has shown no signs of mutation and therefore remains mild. And while yes, I understand people have died so do they in seasonal flu as well. You just can't convince me that without testing this is safe, especially given the speed in which they manufactured this. I truely believe the gov's of the world are willing to risk the few to save the many meaning that if this vaccine is loaded with crap then those who fall victim to the junk in it would be the sacrafical lambs so to speak.

posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 12:12 PM

Originally posted by mnemeth1
The swine flu vaccine currently being distributed is THE SAME STUFF as the anthrax vaccine. It contains aluminum adjuvants, squalene, and thiomersal. The anthrax vaccine was also rushed

Thanks for the info. That's odd though. Anthrax is bacterial, whereas swine flu is a virus. Usually people don't get "vaccinated" for bacterial diseases because there's antibiotics for them, ie. all bacterial diseases have antibiotic cures, whereas there's no cure for a virus.

Since Anthrax's antiobiotic is under a global patent by a foreign pharmaceudical company, that means no American company can sell the antibiotic without infringing on the global patent. Therefore the military forced vaccines for a bacterial disease so that American soldiers would not be at risk or dependent on a foreign country.

So to add the aluminum adjuvants, squalene and thiomersal to a viral vaccine is just plain odd, possibly dangerous.

Your mother has the right idea in refusing the vaccine. The only flu vaccine I've ever had was in the early 1990s. I got so sick from it and it was unusual.

What's normal for me for a flu is that I get tired, fall asleep, sleep 10 hours and wake up with the sniffles. I rarely break a fever and if I do, it's while I'm asleep. EXCEPT the year that I got the flu vaccines in the 1990s. That year I was sick for days, over and over all year, fevers, very odd.

So I figure it's better to refuse all these flu vaccines anyway. I've always seen those getting flu vaccines become sicker than me. I've been refusing flu vaccines for over 15 years, and all it does is result in 10 hour flus instead of being sick for days.

posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 12:14 PM
My sister works at a major hospital in my Island she is a radiology has been for 25 years, she also refuses the vaccine even when is mandatory for health care workers in hospital.

She is actually getting enough people in her place of work to boycott the mandatory vaccine.

She say is dangerous.

posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 12:22 PM
reply to post by DDay

This virus has shown no signs of mutation and therefore remains mild. And while yes, I understand people have died so do they in seasonal flu as well.

You are absolutely correct! Tell your husband that either it will not mutate, and therefore will not be dangerous. OR, it will mutate in which case the vaccine will be worthless!

There is no upside to the vaccine at this point. It may turn out to be effective later, but do not be one of the guinnea pigs. Squalene and Thimerosal are far too dangerous to give to a kid! 12 yr old and up, maybe, but 11 and under NO WAY!!

Trust me, my 18 month old is still recovering from his 5 month vaccinations which triggered "Infantile Spasms"! His Neurologist recommended not giving kids any vaccines when they are so small, and then only giving them one at a time, not the normal regimen! Even then, you should request "Single Dose Vials" because they do not contain the dangerous preservatives such as Thimerosal. His Neurologist is one of the top in the country. He is well respected and recommended. We have to travel a good ways to see him!! We had to change Pediatricians to find one that would follow our wishes!

posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 03:34 PM
What I find some sick humor in is that I actually started the conversation off by telling her not to take any swine flu vaccines haha.

Little did I know she was already well informed as to what was going on.

For those of you interested in some research papers and documentaries, check out the pages I have prepared on my web site.

Vaccine Courts:

Vaccine links to disease:

posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 03:37 PM
reply to post by MapMistress

I was thinking Anthrax was fungal and it infected the host with spore's via the lung's ?

Or are you talking about the vaccine ?

Take care.


posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 05:31 AM
Bacillus anthracis = Anthrax and antibiotics will NOT cure you, yes it is spread by spores, baterial endospores.
Most of the vaccinations we get these days are for bacterial deseases.
Typoid, Cholera, yellow fever, tetanus, TB.
If you're going do DENY IGNORANCE please start with yourselves.

posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 07:11 AM
I just wanted to give this a little bump in light of the recent news articles that have come out about Guillain Barre syndrome and vaccines.

I wrote this prior to those articles just based on eyewitness testimony from my mother.

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 01:19 AM
Perhaps she can take a religious exemption? Many of these vaccines are made from aborted fetuses ; not to mention monkey dna and often contain heavy metals as already mentioned.

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 05:38 AM
reply to post by SevenThunders

Heavy metals (USA ONLY) banned in EU

The rest TOSH of the highest order.

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 06:48 AM
reply to post by mnemeth1

I've always been afraid of flu vaccines and others, recently heard more people have died from swine flu vaccine than swine flu, feel bad for those people that were used as human guinea pigs, the vaccine system does not work, old expired obsolete vaccines are used, new untested ones are used, the entire process is so out of control I'd prefer to get the flu or whatever virus instead.

posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 06:54 AM

Originally posted by SevenThunders
Perhaps she can take a religious exemption? Many of these vaccines are made from aborted fetuses ; not to mention monkey dna and often contain heavy metals as already mentioned.

This is absolute rubbish of the highest order.

But in addition, the Vaccine is, I think, dangerous in as much as it has not been thoroughly tested to confirm safety.

In what scenario should anyone suddenly "trust" their government in such decisions? Have they earned any trust from the people in recent years? No!

Their decisions are constantly bad ones, made in panic to secure their own safety and/or improve their personal gain.

I do not trust a word any government tells me, I trust facts. And the fact is, this virus has not mutated to become any more dangerous than seasonal flu, therefore mandatory vaccinations ARE NOT justified.

I can almost guarantee that within ten years the public will find out that a "mistake" was made, and millions of people who took that vaccine have developed some form of "condition".
But that will be OK, because by then, Obama will be long gone, those responsible will have retired on extremely comfortable pensions, and there'll be no one to take the blame or accept responsibility.

Oddly enough, I was just trying to access the Vaccine Awareness Network, to see their info on vaccine recalls, but the site is down or disabled.
Interesting huh?

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 05:01 AM
These deaths would of course be from the vaccine that is not yet released for use by GSK of course..

posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 01:48 PM
Wait, what? So Vaccines aren't consisting of weakened/altered bacteria/virus anymore?

But have additives?

Any source on this?
Where can I read on the chemical/biological composition of the vaccine?

[edit on 21-8-2009 by Never Anonymous]

posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 10:52 AM
Bumping this up. Seriously there's so much about the virus on these forums. Does anyone know a SOURCE that can list the additives?

posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 11:01 AM
I think when discussing vaccines people need to be clear whether they are talking about Swine vaccines or flu vaccines.

I am just suggesting people say swine vaccines instead of flu vaccines just so we know exactly what you are talking about.

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 10:31 PM
Is it wise to take the Virus instead of a vaccine you can refuse anyways.

posted on Sep, 1 2009 @ 03:18 PM
Just refuse the Vaccine is crap

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