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Government Prepares for “unwillingness to follow government orders”

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posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 11:22 PM
Great thread....I wonder how much th msm will report next week on the 'things' discussed in the conference.

S & F for you...Thanks!

posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 11:46 PM
reply to post by TreadUpon

Man thats just paranoid. Everyone gets pulled over. I rode with a cop a couple months ago, he wasnt looking for anyone specific, just people who werent paying attention to what was going on. People not paying attention are the ones more likely to cause accidents because they are distracted. I've never heard so much rant about cops being bad and all this before in my life. ATS is going crazy with all the copaphobes. I feel sorry for the tormented souls that feel police officers are threats to you... and if they are...they are following orders... following orders of the people you voted into office... Ironic huh?

posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 11:50 PM
Ugh.. I'm about sick of the "forced vaccinations" theories. There has been absolutely no hint that they would even begin to consider this. They may try some good ol' fashioned fear-mongering, campaigns on tv, even an emergency broadcast from the Whitehouse where Obama highly recommends that all Americans get this for their own and their neighbors sake. But I do not believe they would try, or if it would even be *possible*, to give forced vaccinations.

I don't think people fully realize the scope of the project if it were carried out. And you are talking a limited time frame here. I just don't see it. Legislation alone on this would probably last months.

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 01:08 AM
You know the Army has has been running ads for Internment Specialists for civilian resettlement? Somehow with all thats been going on this tastes a bit off? Something is different than just recruiting guards for GITMO or something? Makes you wonder if they are up to something? Just saying?

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 01:09 AM

Originally posted by NickT916
is there a goos site to keep us updated on the pig flu numbers? The WHO site i used to look at stopped updating

It is winter in the Southern Hemisphere right now, and at least 200 people have died down there.
We have a real pamdemic down there,we need to get food, water and help down there as soon as possible.
They said this was going to happen if they can only get the vaccine to us in the Northern Hemisphere before it is to late, our beloved Governments may be able to save us yet.
Now I am going to spear head this to get help to the people in the Sothern Hemisphere, please send me all your money so I can fillmy, I mean help those in need just E-mail me all you got, just $19.95 and I will send you 2 plus double shipping charges of course.

World wide death from swine flu

That's not bad odds, plus those people that died I would bet at least half were already sick.

! in about 10,000,000 just rough guesstimate

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 02:04 AM

Originally posted by NickT916
is there a goos site to keep us updated on the pig flu numbers? The WHO site i used to look at stopped updating

Don't trust them. They are the ones in line to take over once TSHTF and they have proven themselves to be liars and engaged in criminal activities involving this whole agenda.

Jane's Blog

Just me, but I trust what she says. And what she says is things will not go well for those who decide not to get injected with poison.

We shall see.

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 04:38 AM

Originally posted by NickT916
is there a goos site to keep us updated on the pig flu numbers? The WHO site i used to look at stopped updating

Not surprising...

They haven't updated for over a month. The organization that is supposed to keep track of and report to the world doesn't update their numbers.

My guess why? Not a technical oversight, mind you. It's simply because they haven't been given the clear to pad the numbers by their handlers yet. Don't worry, they'll get clearance soon, and off they go on their "let's make up a scary number" game.

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 04:48 AM
Five things to remember...
1. Stop all the fearmongering.
2. Drink less coffee.
3. Mediate more.
4. if all else fails, ::holds up combat shotgun with a grin::
5. Body armor optional.

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 05:25 AM

Originally posted by Question

Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by warrenb

If something bad happens, we have nobody to blame except ourselves. The government only controls us to the extent we let them. If we decide that WE THE PEOPLE do not agree with our EMPLOYEES, all we need to do is stand as ONE and let them know their services are no longer required. It's simple really and if we don't, it's our own fault. Time to take responsibility and make sure our government runs as the people dictate based on the CONSTITUTION. Is violence required? OF COURSE NOT. Just do as Nancy Reagan suggested..we ALL just say NO.

I wish what you were saying was true. But sadly, we've been demoted from our positions YEARS ago. Their bosses, are no longer the people, but the lobbyists, the special interest groups that bribe them, etc. Also, don't forget this famous quote from Stalin (or was it mussoulini? I can't remember) "It's NOT the people who elect their leader, but the government officials who count the votes" and I'm sure we've all seen from the last 8 years, how easily it is to rig an election (heck, they even televised it on the news for god's sake.)

Sorry but I disagree. If 230 million people all stood up with one voice and said YOUR FIRED to whomever, they're done. Their power base is gone. The lobbyists lose their power too because they lose our money. We own the country if we're not too lazy to simply say ENOUGH. It's all up to us and if we're not willing to say ENOUGH, we condemn ourselves and our children and our childrens, children.

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 06:04 AM
reply to post by jtma508

so just because they have been doing this sort of stuff for a very long time means that it's somewhat of a good thing?

i'm tired of people being concerned about other people's safety and all. if you want to get the shoot get it. once you get it you no longer have to fear getting infected from someone who has caught the virus right? so no need for them to be mandatory

just because you fell that your neighbors or whatever are unprepared to take care of themselves doesn't mean that you or someone else has the right to interfere and forcefully make them take measures for their own health and good because you 'know what's best'

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 07:00 AM
The real crux of this issue is not the 'forced vaccinations' or swine flu death figures , its the line that says " Government prepares for those that refuse to follow Government ORDERS".

People don't like to be told what to do, they have to join an army to be ordered, they are civilians, they like to be ASKED, besides the Governments need to ask some one like Oprah ( or whois celebrity of teh month) to 'suggest' that people go get the vaccine, then you can sit back and watch the masses roll up their sleeves, because a 'celebrity' suggested it.
People don't like the Government, they'd rather believe it if its shown on TV first.

I for one being in the UK WILL NOT be getting a vaccine, I'm allergic to not only the eggs they incubate the vaccine in but also the BS that goes with it...

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 07:50 AM
Do you relize, the people runing the United States are a bunch of inept, morons, the United States has been Bankrupt for over 70 years, and these fools are going to tell us what to do.
Talk about the blind leading the blind, plus their leading us thru a mine field to boot.

Took me a while but, it's all lies, it all about money and oil, all the things they say are bad they do, murder of leaders of other countries to get what they want, wars when can't murder leader out right, getting our sons and daughters killed to fulfill their bogus agenda.

Most all politicians are attorneys=professional liers.

[edit on 12-8-2009 by googolplex]

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 08:01 AM
NickT916- There are several good sites for the latest Mexican Flu info as well as other diseases! Check out and both sites are excellent sources of up to date information! The WHO site as well as the CDC site are always behind the eightball as far as current info is concerned! Never seem to be up to date, but thats a great example of a government run site for you just like everything else the government runs! A day late and a dollar short! Hope this information helps!

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 08:16 AM

Originally posted by antar
WarrenB you are such an enlightening person and I am proud to have you as a fellow member, if I could you would see a BIG fat bonus from me for all you do.

Why don't you just ask him out

Great thread and it dose seem to point to worrying times ahead (ooo that rhymes).

The coincidences are too close to be considered as just that. I plan to reject the shot until I am blue in the face but it will be shocking if they do employ such tactics as to say you cannot go to work, get money out etc. unless you have been vaccinated.

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 08:55 AM
First draft of the Online Petition has been published. Please get involved if you want answers to this Swine Flu vaccine.

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 09:52 AM
I always thought that the govenment had to create some kind of catastrophe in order to control the people. Well it's coming all right in the form of swine flu.

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 01:15 PM
A seed of concern has been germinating in my mind for some time now: This mandatory vaccine is an easy way to separate the sheep from goats in this country, and get all of us who are awake out of the way, isolated in FEMA camps where we cannot speak out against what they are doing.

I will not get vaccinated, but I worry that by following this course, I remove myself from influence.

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 01:33 PM
I say we don't need Government (and its inherent efforts to control). But we have to get rid of money.

To see how, in detail, please read my recent post here:

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 03:47 PM
reply to post by Amaterasu

Unfortunately I do not see how this plays into the conversation of "mandatory vaccinations" at hand. I truthfully believe that was a shameless self-plug to another topic all together and do not believe that contributes to this post.

Moving on....

I, as well as many others seem to see many "coincidental" initiatives being put into place as a "safety net" for the potential outbreak and mass infection. Between everything that has been posted and discussed lately, there are far too many things being set up in preparation of something that has done very little damage to this country thus far. It may be a scare tactic but if the sheeple actually knew about some of these initiatives, it would sure start a scare-a-thon throughout the nation.

Imagine everyday people knowing that they are hiring "specialists" and that there is a conference in place to discuss things such as the topic of this post? I can, for one, say it scared the crap out of a few people I discussed with...

posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 08:04 PM
Is this a conspiracy board or not?
The way the polititions do it is take a little bit of truth and streatch it out of proportion.

(pieces stolen from everywhere)

Novartis’s proprietary squalene adjuvant for their H1N1 vaccine is MF59. Glaxo’s is ASO3. MF59 has yet to be approved by the FDA for use in any U.S. vaccine, despite its history of use in other countries.

Oil-based vaccination adjuvants like squalene have been proved to generate concentrated, unremitting immune responses over long periods of time.

A 2000 study published in the American Journal of Pathology demonstrated a single injection of the adjuvant squalene into rats triggered “chronic, immune-mediated joint-specific inflammation,” also known as rheumatoid arthritis.

Gulf War veterans with Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) received anthrax vaccines which contained squalene.[ix] MF59 (the Novartis squalene adjuvant) was an unapproved ingredient in experimental anthrax vaccines and has since been linked to the devastating autoimmune diseases suffered by countless Gulf War vets.[x]

The Department of Defense made every attempt to deny that squalene was indeed an added contaminant in the anthrax vaccine administered to Persian Gulf war military personnel – deployed and non-deployed – as well as participants in the more recent Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program (AVIP).

Here's what you add to scare people
It has been rumored that Retired Army Gen. Eric K. Shinseki, head of the Department of Veterans Affairs, while unable to stop swine-flu vacinations of serving military personell, has ordered all VA hospitals they are not allowed to carry, stock or give the shot to veterans or their families. The hospitals have also been told to specifically tell veterans not to get the shot elsewhere.
The Office of the Inspector General for the VA has been tasked to insure the orders are followed.

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