Chuck Norris: Dirty secret No. 1 in Obamacare = Home visits, page 7
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reply posted on 12-8-2009 @ 06:34 PM by TroyB
Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
I have to disagree. I hate our govt as much as the next red blooded American but, something has to be done. There are so many people out there reproducing who are more dangerous than a retard with a Yo-Yo.

I can't even go fishing without a licence. Forget driving a car or owning a buisness. But any redneck,stump jumpin,backwoods,Jethro,riflerack havin, NRA belongin' to,pick-up truck drivin', outhouse usin' white trash, toothless hillbilly can reproduce untill the good lord says it's time to stop.

Well, I'm saying it's time to stop. We either need forced sterilizations or forced education.

I'm all for it.


Here's the problem...you are letting government CHOOSE for you, so in effect you're 'okie dokie' with being controlled? If you are, then please do not voice your discontent later when rights you once had are stripped from you for your own good!

It's not about anything but the rich/powerful/elite saying YOU who can't even spell LICENSE should not have the God given right to reproduce, or express yourself freely and it's ok to sterilize you because your gene pool represents everything THEY don't want.

Now, mind you I am not saying we should continue to run a welfare state and pay for these children popped out just because someone can reproduce. I can tell you, if people had to pay for their offspring's care out of their own pocket, the amount of births within financially challenged families would decline. Simply because they'd be forced to take responsibility for their actions and THAT is what's wrong in society today.


reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 05:46 AM by CapsFan8
reply to post by Jesus H Christ


Why not just get rid of the licensing bureaucracy instead of people's rights?

Forced sterilizations? Are you for reducing the population by 80 percent as well? I'd like you to meet obama's science czar, the esteemed mr. holdren.


reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 12:02 PM by Janitor From Mars
reply to post by blueorder


I think you missed the point by a mile.

Regardless, I can't wait the next time the Dems roll out a celebrity and the Republicans go bat# insane. It's guaranteed because it's a mindless, predictable game.



reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 12:55 PM by chiponbothshoulders
reply to post by Jesus H Christ

I was going to type a longer reply to your post,but realised it was not worth my time.


reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 09:17 PM by foreverdavis
While I am a government non-truster, I thought I would enlighten what I know about the home visits. The programs are already set up just not in all areas of the country. There is nothing "obamaish" about it. I work for a PAT program (www.parentsasteachers.org) and this is the type of home visits this bill is referring to. There are other equally established but similar programs out there.

I visit expectant mothers and children up to 5. A visit consists of bringing age appropriate handouts for the parents and an age appropriate activity for the children. For example, I may bring jar lids and different size containers for the child to work on hand coordination. We use items that can be made and are inexpensive. For a child 12 months old, I would bring handouts on tip for weaning from a bottle. Nothing scary at all I promise. Also, during every visit, we bring an age appropriate book to share thus promoting literacy. Once a year, we screen for developmental delays, thus catching many problems early. Another thing, my particular program is open to rich and poor alike--because no, economic status does not a good parent make!

Don't be alarmed--no government officials will be forcing parents to do anything. We are normally locals who love children--and get to play with kids in a constructive way and encouraging parents for doing a good job!

I am not a fan of Pres. Obama at all, but the home visits are nothing to fear or avoid.

A Parent Educator


reply posted on 14-8-2009 @ 03:21 AM by k3456789
reply to post by warrenb


if the government had mercola.com values and knowledge why not but if it is a standard low fat diet and vaccination paradigm then NO, its not good


reply posted on 15-8-2009 @ 02:19 AM by LyricusMagna
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They plan on One World Government, One World Religion, why not introduce One World Parental Education?

"one-size-fits-all parenting techniques" - that's exactly what they want.

We find ourselves tangled on the path of Globalization. A wondrous tool of the NWO to create a pavement for their agenda. If everything goes global why not parenting skills?

I just hope this happens later rather then sooner.


reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 04:16 PM by DaWhiz
reply to post by St Vaast


Really, the dirty prostitutes. And you really think that prostitution is a legal business that will honor such contracts? More over, that any of them are regulated? They are about as bad as bankers let loose from regulations – had any luck controlling that fiasco yet?
And I see all this “out with her organs” but here’s something you never hear and that’s mass vasectomy. Yes, men constantly claim that their urges must be met when ever and where ever. It is their prowess that is PRAISED and never questioned in any way and the funniest part of it is this – they are the most controllable when it comes to procreation. All you need is a jar, a clinic and a deposit then the surgery. After all, no sperm, no kids. Face it, you can screw all you want and no kids! Viola~! End of problem. But of course that will end all of man’s blaming it on the woman and taking responsibility for themselves. What a world.


reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 09:12 AM by homevisitor
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Anyone who is familiar with the home visiting that is listed in Obama's Health Care Reform Bill understands that these programs are designed to help expectant and new parents learn about caring for their newborn and link to resources in the community. In fact, there are plenty of families who "voluntarily" decide to be part of these great programs because as many new parents will tell you- you can always use the help. The home visitors bring information about the child's developmental stages and help you bond with your baby through play and various activities. They come once a week for an hour and they never dictate anything, but rather, talk to mothers and fathers about sleeping habits of babies, feeding schedules, and anything else a parent may have a concern about.

The workers are not usually government employees, but rather social workers or trained employees of a non-profit organization who work very hard to help families learn how to meet the needs of their baby.

There are so many families in this country who have limited/no access to transportation or are very isolated. Not everyone has a priest, a close friend or even family to help. Not everyone lives where access to services is readily available. Surprisingly (or maybe not), many parents are illiterate or have low literacy levels so simply "reading a book" may not be feasible. Home visiting programs help bring information to these families in a way they can understand.

I encourage anyone who feels passionate about this topic, including Chuck Norris and others, to look at www.healthyfamiliesamerica.org for information on this research- based home visiting program. In fact, I would welcome him to accompany a home visitor on a visit with a new parent and their baby so he could see one of the programs highlighted in his bill. This program is fantastic and has helped hundreds of thousands of families keep their kids safe, happy and healthy. I know he is interested in the health and well-being of children in terms of their self-esteem. Research shows that self-esteem develops as early as during the infant/toddler years so helping to establish those positive parent-child interactions at an early age will build on the front end of the organization he has established for children.

It is not about dictating a way of parenting- it is about educating families on caring for a child- because not everyone knows what to do. Education is one way to prevent child abuse and neglect which I think most would agree is much needed in our country.
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