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Originally posted by infolurker
reply to post by LoneGunMan
So right now I have insurance from a large provider... and I have had to use it often ... I had to have a couple of catscans and a couple of MRI's and they were approved same day... sure I had to pay a bit on my end but I am freeking alive so until I see a "New Plan" that is as good or better than what I have today AND is good enough for our "Politicians" without the "exemptions" for the "chosen" I will stick with what I have.
[edit on 10-8-2009 by infolurker]
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
reply to post by infolurker
I do get it.
This is about health care.
So is the Fire service.
So why would you want to keep letting the insurance companies mandate what care you receive than the Government?
So back to the OP.
If you dont want to pay for your neighbor then why do you pay for your neighbors health care through the fire service.
Answer that question because I will not fall for you derailing this thread again.
Originally posted by drock905
If my neighbor is ill it has no effect on me, if my neighbors house catches fire there is the chance my house will catch fire too. We don't pay the fire service for our neighbors protection we pay it for ours.
Do I think thats right? No, but that is your answer.
Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
reply to post by LoneGunMan
The fire dept. is now EMS? Sure I know fire fighters are trained in basic CPR and stuff like that, but that is a lot different then sticking an IV in your arm and cutting you open to remove a tumor or needing brain surgery or what not. I hate to break it to you, but fire fighters are not professional doctors, they might be in training or want to be a doctor at some point, but they don't surgery.
Originally posted by LoneGunManWhy is it poor. It is about health care. It is Emergency medicine.
I am an EMT. Emergency Medical Technician.
I am paid by the tax payers to come to your home as a licensed medial practitioner to perform medical service.
Tel me why you agree to pay for that and not the other. Dont just state the analogy is poor tell me the difference.
Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
The analogy you made has no comparison to me going to my doctor willingly and having some government bureaucrat decide what treatment I'm going to get.
Originally posted by drock905
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
reply to post by infolurker
I do get it.
This is about health care.
So is the Fire service.
So why would you want to keep letting the insurance companies mandate what care you receive than the Government?
So back to the OP.
If you dont want to pay for your neighbor then why do you pay for your neighbors health care through the fire service.
Answer that question because I will not fall for you derailing this thread again.
If my neighbor is ill it has no effect on me, if my neighbors house catches fire there is the chance my house will catch fire too. We don't pay the fire service for our neighbors protection we pay it for ours.
Do I think thats right? No, but that is your answer.
Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by LoneGunMan
finally someone who gets it !
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We have a RIGHT to health care people !!!!
You know the same health care we pay for our government employees to have....irony
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
This entire debate about healthcare is a conspiracy from the insurance companies. They have put up enough money and got a pseudo-grassroots mocement going against it.
Here is a valid question to those that believe we do not have a right to healthcare free from the insurance companies dictating what they will pay and what services you get.
If you dont want to pay for others healthcare why do you agree to paying for the Fire Service? Its about all we do is give healthcare. you get hurt we drive to your house at speed risking our lives to fix your boo boo.
So why then do you pay for someone else to have the right to dial 911? I think you should have insurance for that. Here is how it could work.
"911 whats your emergency?"
"Uh my son set the cat on fire and burned his hand, then the cat ran back in the house and now the house if on fire."
"Your insurance carrier please"
"I dont have insurance"
"Thank you for dialing 911, we suggest you get your garden hose out put out your home and give your child some salve and a band-aid."
If you think you should not pay for your fellow countrymen/womens healthcare then you should not pay for theyre emergency mistakes either.
The insurance companies are scamming you.