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Chavez urges military to be prepared for conflict

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posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 11:51 PM
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NK, Venezula, Iran...

ONE of these country kids are going to make a big enough mistake in the schoolyard, that big brother U.S.A is going to come-a-knockin' and is going to have their clocks tuned and ENTIRE military infrastructure resting in ash.

Iraq was NOTHING. It's only a matter of time before the world is shown, once again, who can win in an all-out conventional war, still TODAY.

Tied up in Iraq and/or Recession. All the weapons, bullets, troops, tanksr, aircraft carriers, 6000+ active aircraft, etc.. Have already been bought and paid-for. These new dictators forgot whose Empire is in charge. [Sad to say, sometimes..]

btw, I'm Canadian.


[edit on 11-8-2009 by CanadianDream420]




posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 12:19 AM
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It's almost as if he has some perverse obsession with the US and Columbia.
Why doesn't he mind his own business and worry about whats going on in his own country. UNASUR members already told Chavez that Colombian business is just that Colombian business. He needs to learn the meaning of the word sovereignty.

Here he goes again...



Chavez accuses Colombia of acting against regional unity


QUITO, Aug. 10 (Xinhua) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez accused the Colombian government of acting against the Union of South American Nations (Unasur) by intending to sign a military agreement with the U.S.

Chavez told Colombian President Alvaro Uribe "to get off the train if you want" while objecting to the U.S. government's planned use of Colombian military bases.

"Some people do not want to walk. The Colombian government, for example, does not want unity. It is acting against the unity," said Chavez at the third Unasur summit held in Quito, capital of Ecuador.


If he was really serious about "UNITY" Maybe he should stop supplying arms to Colombian rebels?

You think?


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posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 12:59 AM
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At Mexico summit, Obama says immigration reform will have to wait

"The same critics who say the United States has not intervened enough in Honduras are the same people who say we're always intervening and [that] Yankees need to get out of Latin America," Obama said in one of the more spirited exchanges during Monday's news conference. "You can't have it both ways."

He said critics were urging the U.S. government to act in a fashion -- perhaps even using force to reinstate Zelaya -- that the same people would condemn in "every other context."



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posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 03:35 AM
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"Chavez said Venezuela's foreign ministry would file a formal complaint and warned Colombia that "Venezuela's military will respond if there's an attack against Venezuela."

I guess not many here have sen that great Irish film The Revolution That Will Not Be Televised!He has very right to feel paranoid

He is also going to stop sending cheap fuel to that country considering their current actions,good for him



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 04:15 AM
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This left wing chancer is at it again- create a pretend crisis with this imaginary invasion, makes his drive to assume permanent control of the country (like all left wing despots) that much easier



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 04:51 AM
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I agree, more posters here should watch that film and then consider the US's meddling in the area.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 05:44 AM
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Originally posted by Sargon of Akkad
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I agree, more posters here should watch that film and then consider the US's meddling in the area.


that may or may not be the case, but the same people advising that should also consider Chavez and this mystery invasion- classic crisis tactics used to embed power



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 06:16 AM
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Why? Chavez was elected by the people, and when a military coup removed him from power mass demonstrations took place with tens of thousands of people who demanded Chavez be reinstated.

Why would he need to cement his position further? The people have spoken.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by Sargon of Akkad
Why? Chavez was elected by the people, and when a military coup removed him from power mass demonstrations took place with tens of thousands of people who demanded Chavez be reinstated.

Why would he need to cement his position further? The people have spoken.


Why does a man who has strove all his life to cement his power and to ensure that power remains permanent wish to cement power!?!?!? It would take a combination of God and a legion of psychiatrists to work that one out!!- I think his desire to cement power is well established and the use of "crisis" mentality is classic false flag behaviour to assist this power mania the man has- he brought increased terms, double terms etc and desires to remove any presidential limit

The man is a power crazy maniac who has invented a pretend invasion- but hey, if you worship him knock yerself out

[edit on 11-8-2009 by blueorder]



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 07:05 AM
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Okay, blueorder, let us try and tone down the alarmism a little bit, shall we?


Originally posted by blueorder
Why does a man who has strove all his life to cement his power and to ensure that power remains permanent wish to cement power!?!?!?


You know the man won an election, right? After a military coup, the people demanded he be returned because he was their choice - how much more cemented do you think his power needs to be?


Originally posted by blueorder I think his desire to cement power is well established and the use of "crisis" mentality is classic false flag behaviour to assist this power mania the man has- he brought increased terms, double terms etc and desires to remove any presidential limit


That's true, and I'm sure the Venezualans will have a referendum on the issue.


Originally posted by blueorder The man is a power crazy maniac who has invented a pretend invasion- but hey, if you worship him knock yerself out


Who are we comparing his power-mania to? The US and their puppet presidents?

And no, I don't worship anything, please try controlling your irrepressable urges to fling your hands in the air and declare the end draweth nigh.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 07:12 AM
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American troops should stay in America!
Wherever they are, they are defending the intresst of the multinational (imperialistic) companies.
They have no right to be on any soil outside America.

About Chavez; love him, he has to say/do something even if it is "only" 1400 guys. It is just preparation for sending 140 000 more troops. I really do not think the USa is able to make South American countries to go to war against eachother. The left do not want it,there will not be any war between Colombia and Venezuela.
If any American troop set foot on Venezuelan soil it is a declaration of war, from the USA to Venezuela. I think the UN this time wold not allow it..or? Like finish all your other wars before going for another one.
Besides, the war in Irak is costing a LOT and the people of the USA is not winning anything..getting hungry (difficult-unrestish) for each day that passes, so why not start another war? One easy to win, yet onother foreign place to send unemployed USA citicents to kill and die for in the name of freedom and democracy.
YANKEE GO HOME and stay home, you have a great job to do and that is to kick some very powerfull people in the head. Start from the top!
If USA goes to war to Venezuela i will go krazy..really krazy.

[edit on 11-8-2009 by gusan]

[edit on 11-8-2009 by gusan]



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by Sargon of Akkad
Okay, blueorder, let us try and tone down the alarmism a little bit, shall we?


like those who get "alarmed" at US activities should do?



You know the man won an election, right? After a military coup, the people demanded he be returned because he was their choice - how much more cemented do you think his power needs to be?


You are asking the wrong person- but it is EXACTLY the right question, how much more cemented does he think power needs to be- he sought the increase in terms from 5 years to 6 (and got it) he sought double terms (and got it) he now seeks an end to any limit to presidential reign- his power mad desires are well evident, how much more "cement" does the man want, good question



That's true, and I'm sure the Venezualans will have a referendum on the issue.


They may well do, it will not take away from his power mania




Who are we comparing his power-mania to? The US and their puppet presidents?


you can if you want, Im not an american, but comparing him to every president in the world will not detract from his power desire, which, to any rational mind should set alarm bells ringing



And no, I don't worship anything, please try controlling your irrepressable urges to fling your hands in the air and declare the end draweth nigh.


see above re reational thinking



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 07:23 AM
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Sadly, most of the people on this thread have little clue of the history, gleaned from a distorted and propagandist US MSM.

A little reminder of the issue underlying it all: Chavez wants, like any sensible person, to trade his oil in euros, roubles, or any sensible currency other than the US dollar, which is always losing real value. It's rational and people should be able to trade in whatever currency they like. It's called freedom.

A freedom the US has successfully denied for over 30 years.

That, of course, was one of Saddam's biggest sins, too, and a huge factor in precipitating the illegal invasion of Iraq.

the other aspect is that Chavez has the temerity to use oil profits to benefit the poorest people. Literacy rates are up, infant mortality is down. That can't be allowed to continue, because it suggests a model that other nations in the region might like to follow.

Consequently there have been attempts, plural, to oust Chavez and a continuing program to destabilize the country. This has meant that Chavez has had to spend money on arms that I rather think he'd prefer to be spending on people. And of course, as ever, he has to turn to Russia as so many others before him (it's part of a very consistent pattern in the region), Nowadays, of course, you can't raise the spectre of a Communist threat (I love the way Americans froth at the mouth at the mention of the word "Communist", it's so Pavlovian) so Chavez has to be painted as the New Hitler for this season.

Anyone who thinks that Chavez is merely paranoid about a US threat is either desperately ignorant of the history of US policy in south America, or deliberately lying.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 07:28 AM
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Blueorder: US troops are not the world police, they do not defend any freedom or democracy. Start by acepting that.
The world is tierd of all the massacres done in the name of democracy all over the world.
Your army is the tool! You are being brainwashed.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 07:36 AM
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Chavez works for the russians Columbia works for the u.s. WAR GAMES 1 CLEARLY SEES

OLD WAR GAMES russia wanted AFGHANASTAN u.s. put osama in play to neutralize any possibility russia backed off and starts sellin arms to IRAN
u.s. counter to IRAN ISREAL see just war games

russia takes SYRIA u.s. takes IRAQ

us takes PAKISTAN who got INDIA

few months ago russia sold war planes to CHAVES AND AKs THRU IRAN NOW he scared these political leaders all need gathered in 1 place to see who the EARTH REALLY WANTS???????????????NEEDS SMH



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 07:41 AM
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Well Slay our first reason for going over there well over a decade ago was to get back American's who had been kidnapped by "REBELS". Wouldn't it seem fit that with all the upheaval in the area to send in a few more to help in assisting the aid workers that are more times than not the ones getting KIDNAPPED FOR RANSOM?

Oh and yes "poor Chavez" the same man who has repeatedly time and again seized factories and supplies from foreign country companies to feed his army? Not his people? It is called Stockholm syndrome people!

Google is your friend deny ignorance and look things up rather than taking ONE article and running with it.

There is a whole lot more to this story than meets the eye. On top of ARMING the rebels who have been kidnapping aid workers and tourists for decades; the man has repeatedly gone and "confiscated" the property of companies run by another country.

His FEAR is not that there is going to be a war, his fear is that we are going to bail out and leave his stupid butt in the dust. What is he going to do when all the companies he is STEALING from abandon him?

He is going to hark of a make believe war that is being waged against him by the big bad USA ;in an effort to commandeer more sympathy for the plight of his people he cares nothing about. DENY IGNORANCE

P.S Slay that first part was a question-statement....
the rest was for the poor Chaves crew!

[edit on 11-8-2009 by xoxo stacie]



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by xoxo stacie

Well Slay our first reason for going over there well over a decade ago was to get back American's who had been kidnapped by "REBELS". Wouldn't it seem fit that with all the upheaval in the area to send in a few more to help in assisting the aid workers that are more times than not the ones getting KIDNAPPED FOR RANSOM?


That is called a cover story.


Originally posted by xoxo stacieOh and yes "poor Chavez" the same man who has repeatedly time and again seized factories and supplies from foreign country companies to feed his army? Not his people? It is called Stockholm syndrome people!

Google is your friend deny ignorance and look things up rather than taking ONE article and running with it.


I'm sure you'll understand the burden of proof for this statement is on you, not us. Please provide links to evidence. (note: not Fox News...)


Originally posted by xoxo stacieThere is a whole lot more to this story than meets the eye. On top of ARMING the rebels who have been kidnapping aid workers and tourists for decades; the man has repeatedly gone and "confiscated" the property of companies run by another country.


I'd like to see some proof of this too, thank you.


Originally posted by xoxo stacieHis FEAR is not that there is going to be a war, his fear is that we are going to bail out and leave his stupid butt in the dust. What is he going to do when all the companies he is STEALING from abandon him?


Well, if he is the tyrant you paint him as, how would they abandon him?


Originally posted by xoxo stacieHe is going to hark of a make believe war that is being waged against him by the big bad USA ;in an effort to commandeer more sympathy for the plight of his people he cares nothing about. DENY IGNORANCE


Is this the same as the make-believe war the big bad USA has been losing against the 'I have a cunning plan' Al Qaeda? Is it the same as the war on drugs? Is it the same of any of the "threats" to America, the country that spends as much as the rest of the world combined on their military?

As stated by an earlier poster, education up, infant mortality down. How is that the result of someone who does not care for his people? Wishing to trade in a currency other than dollars so he gets a fair price for his oil - how is that the result of someone who does not care for his people?



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 07:53 AM
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LOL even with Islam becoming the main whipping boy they still check for reds under the bed!Socialists give them nightmares,and the less said about Michael Moore the better!

Their media realy have brainwashed so many of them,its rather sad



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by gusan
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Blueorder: US troops are not the world police, they do not defend any freedom or democracy. Start by acepting that.
The world is tierd of all the massacres done in the name of democracy all over the world.
Your army is the tool! You are being brainwashed.



You are a perfect example of the BRAINWASHED

I AM NOT AMERICAN

I NEVER COMMENTED ON AMERICA

I NEVER SAID AMERICA SHOULD POLICE THE WORLD

I MERELY POINTED OUT CHAVEZ IS A POWER MAD NUT *THIS THREAD IS ABOUT CHAVEZ*

honestly, some people are so brainwashed it is unreal!



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by noangels
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LOL even with Islam becoming the main whipping boy they still check for reds under the bed!Socialists give them nightmares,and the less said about Michael Moore the better!

Their media realy have brainwashed so many of them,its rather sad



again, one of these people who lives in an ivory internet tower and waffles about "brainwashed" when it is them who fails to see reason- re the "reds under the bed" put down, you do realised that is now established that red were indeed under the bed in those "witch hunts", I mean that is pretty much out there



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