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Originally posted by maybereal11
reply to post by Highground
Please, sincerely no offense intended.
What you stated does not make sense to me, but rather seems contradictory and a desperately contorted attempt to address my question.
It's the same but different. Complete change, but no change. Doom, Gloom spiraling economy etc. One part nonsense - one part an appeal to fear and pessimism?
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
It's almost as if thats the biggest weakness America has.. it's fear.
Originally posted by SevenThunders
18 ‘‘(I) ensures such orders are standardized
Originally posted by jdub297
The doctor "shall" explain that Medicare pays for hospice care (hint, hint).
Originally posted by undo
when they categorized dementia as a terminal illness that should have medical support withdrawn, i was a bit surprised. dementia is treatable. it's not terminal.
Originally posted by skycopilot
Gov. mandates program for orders for end of life; in other words, the Gov. has a say in how you die.
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
But when you read the truth-o-meter, it's amazing how much FALSE rumors are being circulated.
As I sit here and watch the loonies on TV at these town halls (yep loonies... some are downright throwing tantrums), I'm amazed at how much of the American public, and ATSers are consistently duped by fear.
Please tell me how his version of health care is going to let me keep my insurance plan? This is perhaps the biggest BS statement I've heard yet.
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Is it possible that the entire death panel thing is misunderstood?
Palin is an idiot by the way
Originally posted by jdub297
Originally posted by Freenrgy2
Please tell me how his version of health care is going to let me keep my insurance plan? This is perhaps the biggest BS statement I've heard yet.
No, you may not. Your employer will no longer be able to afford it.
Originally posted by jdub297
Originally posted by Freenrgy2
Please tell me how his version of health care is going to let me keep my insurance plan? This is perhaps the biggest BS statement I've heard yet.
No, you may not. Your employer will no longer be able to afford it.
Even if HE underwrote the cost at a loss he will not be allowed to offer better benefits.
(A tax-free, self-funded program for BASIC and PREVENTIVE CARE would return us to a healthier lifestyle and free-market system. A collective "pool" of federal, employee and employer contributions could provide coverage for "catastrophic" illness. Your ability to 'shop around' with YOUR OWN MONEY will result in competetive pricing for most services.)
The bill is available online and there is an ATS thread dissecting it piece by piece for everyone's perusal and interpretation.
Good luck to you and your employer.
jw
Originally posted by RichieScott1
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
But when you read the truth-o-meter, it's amazing how much FALSE rumors are being circulated.
As I sit here and watch the loonies on TV at these town halls (yep loonies... some are downright throwing tantrums), I'm amazed at how much of the American public, and ATSers are consistently duped by fear.
Have you read the bill yourself? Or are you simply taking the word of 'politifact.com'? Cause that would be looney.
[edit on 11-8-2009 by RichieScott1]
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by RichieScott1
I dont think he has read the bill, and using other peoples notes. I have noticed when you give him some good rebuttals he tends to ignore you or talk about someone elses post that may not make sense.