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Protester on Fox: Pelosi 'Thugs' Came In 'Middle Of The Night,' Health Care Plan 'Sentences Our

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posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 12:15 AM
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I love the attitude!



The guy contacted and filed a report with the Michigan State Police, so you can probably find a report.

Let us all think for a minute. If your son or daughter was disabled or sick, cancer, or a debilitating disease, How could you, in your right or left mind(I'm left handed) think this man is not genuine?! He is not reading a script, his eyes aren't darting and shifting. I heard it on the radio but saw the interview and clip for the first time in this thread. Talk about firing me up!!!

This is Not Harley Guy we are witnessing here!

By the way; By the way; I don't watch Fox News either! Look who owns Fox!?

I am not a Republican or Democrat anymore since they both cling to the same side of the Toilet!

He is Scared of what will happen and so am I, as well as many (more than willing to admit) more everywhere. Now, Sure, he is going through the emotions, passion, anger, fear, loyalty, etc... which is what defines us as Human beings. As Jim Valvano said, "You should go through every emotion every day of your life!, Now, that's Living!"

I am not Italian and you don't have to be, to be passionate and emotional to your cause or causes.

This May surprise many of you followers of False Profit Liberals because of your Drug use and Abuse, current, past, or both!!

Savage says we should drug test everyone holding office in Govt. That would make for some interesting results now wouldn't it?!


I live in Mi also, yea, very proud of our representatives.

If you heard or listened to R Emanuel and his brother that wrote/ and is writing the health care insurance? bill?, you will find the guy is telling the truth. I don't have or know the link, though I heard it again today, clip played on M Savage show.

Go Blue!




posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


Ya know... if I wanted to venerate the town hall protesters.. I would hire someone, to hire someone, to hire someone else to hire the Union to come in and do this. Or at least get people to dress up like union members and do that.


I smell a rat!


Now you're starting to sound like a birther.


Both sides have done #ty things over these town hall meetings in a constant political game of "You can be stupid, but I can be stupider." Although I didn't see anything in that clip thats in the description (no cameras getting knocked out of hands or cripples getting trampled) but I don't doubt there's been some shiz breaking out on both sides at these things.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


Ya know... if I wanted to venerate the town hall protesters.. I would hire someone, to hire someone, to hire someone else to hire the Union to come in and do this. Or at least get people to dress up like union members and do that.


I smell a rat!


Hunka its a brilliant deduction...clearly the Corporations and the Republican Party secretly own ACORN!

Wow now that you figured it out...

Well, it was nice knowing you!



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 12:20 AM
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I think the Obama haters are getting out of hand. You all need to relax. Now.

And those who worship Obama and his health care plan....you need to realize the guy is not your God..and his plan for our health is extremely....SEVERELY flawed...

Both sides have lost it.....

and Honestly...the MSM is NOT helping...



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 12:27 AM
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for people sentenced to death, they sure do talk alot.

worst...deathsquad...ever



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 12:39 AM
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Wonder who will be the next to go visit this guy at his house considering his threat to use deadly force. People are pissed and when you push someone who is pissed they push back.

I keep hearing about the 'angry mobs' and how people need to relax and have open debate. They (the government) don't want debate. They don't answer questions asked of them so there can be no debate. They skirt around issues and then do whatever they want anyway. They want to pass it regardless of what people want and now they are pissed because people are waking up.

How many times do you have to hear a politician give a non answer to a direct question? How many signs do people have to carry while being told 'we hear your concerns', only to be brushed aside and ignored? How long do you try to follow the rules while the other team ignores them before you finally decide enough is enough?

I think the angry mobs have every right to be angry. Maybe instead of trying to point fingers and fight fire with fire, our 'representatives' should stop and think of WHY there are angry mobs yelling at them. Maybe it's because making phone calls and writing letters don't work. Maybe it's because they are no longer for the people, and the people know it. Maybe it's because they don't DO THEIR JOB and actually represent the people.

Keep pushing the people and they WILL push back. The man in the video is ready to push back. Yes Americans are lazy, I'm one of them. But push us past a certain point and all hell is going to break loose. What was that line about waking a sleeping giant? I believe I hear some movement coming from a very large bed.

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posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 01:03 AM
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Does anyone remember this?

Source www.rightpundits.com...

McCain Supporter Mutilated by Obama Follower?

"A John McCain supporter named Ashley Todd was brutally attacked in an armed robbery at an ATM machine in Bloomfield, Pennsylvania near Harrisburg, according to police. The young 20-year old woman was withdrawing money from the machine at Citizens Bank when the man approached her with a knife. He stole $60 from her, but that is when her luck ran out".....


...."As the man turned to flee he reportedly noticed a John McCain bumper sticker on her car and said:"

...“Oh you’re with McCain, you’re with the McCain campaign? I’m going to teach you a lesson.’”

..."He then assaulted her in a brutal beating. As she lay frightened and pinned to the ground, the man carved a bloody letter B for Barack in the woman’s face. The scene is reminiscent of how Jews were branded by the regime in 1930’s Germany, in that case marked for religious beliefs rather than ideological ones."

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The following was added as an update to article after it was learned that this story was false.
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"My goodness what will they think of next. The woman Ashley Todd appears to have made up the story entirely, a Pittsburg police commander is now saying. Her story began unraveling this morning, although some hopeful partisans questioned the story...."
(end)


I remember the high level of outrage over this story and the willingness of many to accept this story as truth simply because it complemented an agenda.


I would like to make it clear that I am not saying that the OP story is false, I am saying that I do not know that it is true.






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posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 01:20 AM
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Obama and his crooks will lose. Actually not his crooks, more like the rich elites who place the puppet in charge.
Don't you worry my fellow Americans who abide by the truths in our constitution. The power of the people, the real Americans who do not succumb to strong arm tactics, or fancy speeches, or being told what's best for them, we'll win. It's going to be a rough ride though....This HC crap won't pass...



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 01:23 AM
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I was twelve, and even at that age i never had a problem believing that there would one day be people capable of doing things like that.

I think they make movies about things they know will one day be done. When my sons were young i used to tell them that one day they would see some of the things from the movies of the 70's start to happen and they used to just laugh it off, they aren't laughin anymore.



Lets also consider that a rush to a Government Health Care Bill in time for a Government forecasted Swine Flu epedimic that they swear up and down will roar in like a lion come the fall, sure is going to give the Government and added edge in how Flu Treatments are adminstered.


Food for thought



As for your last sentence, let's hope it never comes to that.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 01:25 AM
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This is just becoming ridiculous, do you already think that the Democratic party are sending thugs out to peoples houses now? Wouldn't it look just a little suspicious given that this gentleman had just been on the National news?
It was a very telling “Fox” interview as this guy wasn't really offering anything specific regarding what actually happened.

Obviously, he's very angry and concerned about the care of his son, as we all would be but this Healthcare plan has a long way to go and nothing is set in stone as far as I'm aware?

It saddens me that this guy has been whipped up into thinking like this but he is currently caught up in the wave of middle class white America who suddenly aren't doing so well (ripped off by upper class white people), and can't stand the fact that someone who is.....drum roll please...Not white....SHOCK, is the President of the United States!
Worse still, he's actually intelligent and fair minded and actually, another drum roll please....Wants to make your country a fairer place!

80% of this thread is full of petty barely hidden racist comment, not based on anything other than what they have seen on fox news, which is pretty pathetic really....I've lived in the US for a couple of years and I fully understand that around 43% of the population are beyond help but it's up to the other 57% to start standing up more because the Haters are still setting the agenda.

There is a real debate to be had here but its not about Obama being a Fascist (How utterly pathetically silly!), it's about everyone in your Country having the right to decent medical care. I live in Country where we do have this and it has it's faults like any other system but it's probably the best thing about living in the Uk, I have massive respect for everyone who works in the National Health System and feel sorry for Countries that don't have it.

One parting thought.....Isn't it obvious by now after all this time that a lot of this coming from The Health Care companies who have happily making billions over charging you for healthcare that no better or worse then any other you would find in the west? Wake up you people...ITS SIMPLE!



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 01:58 AM
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Originally posted by Kords21
It'd be funny if Ron Paul gave them a chance to bring up their "concerns" and then answered their questions and gave them a lession on the consituion and the benefits of a small government and they converted to his ideas of how America should be.


Well Ron wants to cut Big Government to the bone.

Most ppl do not want to see the entitlement programs phased out.

Huge backlash on all the social programs he'd shutdown.

The one thing most Americans agree with him on is to end the
huge amount of money spent on the war on some drugs.

I could go into detail, but don't want to derail this thread.

I really like Ron Paul, but the hand out crowd can't stand him.

And as hard as it is to believe, most of the ppl in the country
feel something is owed to them.

I know tons of ppl on disability that are not disabled.

We have millions of illegals with fake papers getting foodstamps,
WIC, welfare, social security, etc etc.

Americans are doing the things the illegals are as well.

So Ron Paul doesn't sit well with the lower parasite crowd.

The higher parasite crowd, aka big government socialists don't
like him either, so unless you wave a magic wand and turn 51%
of America into Ayn Rand fans it isn't happening.

I think if you did a truly random street poll across America
most ppl would not even know who Ayn Rand is, or John Galt...



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 02:17 AM
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Oh please are you serious, or did you post in the wrong thread ? I knew it wouldn't take long before someone started the accusations of racism. Why is it that every time someone disagrees with the Obama administration for whatever reason the race baiters come crawling out of the wordwork ! It's getting very old and tiresome now.

Perhaps you'd like to point out some of the 80% of petty, barely hidden racist comment you speak of ? Because the only racist comment that i've seen has come from you.....



It saddens me that this guy has been whipped up into thinking like this but he is currently caught up in the wave of middle class white America who suddenly aren't doing so well (ripped off by upper class white people ), and can't stand the fact that someone who is.....drum roll please...Not white....SHOCK, is the President of the United States!
Worse still, he's actually intelligent and fair minded and actually, another drum roll please....Wants to make your country a fairer place!


Bolding is mine.


And why is 43% of the population beyond help, because they don't agree with your train of thought ? Has it ever occured to you that Americans want to live in America, not the UK, if we wanted to live in a country that used the UK as a role model then we'd go live in the UK.

The biggest problem that we have in this country is a bunch of elected officials that seem to have forgotten that they are elected officials that were elected to work for and represent us ! And if we can make them remember this one simple fact, then America will be on the road to recovery !



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 02:27 AM
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You are correct.

And i think if you did a truely random street poll across America you would be surprised to see just how many people have know idea what Ron Paul truely stands for. It amazed me just how many people that i spoke to that had no idea about what the man wants for this country.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka

Originally posted by W3RLIED2
People seem to comprehend pictures better, I believe they have more impact. So, to me, these guys:



They are getting pretty bold. And things are starting to get very emotional among the people of our country.... Things are going to accelerate, I fear. Yes I said it!!! This crap is scary. When we don't have the freedom to voice our opinions any more people will start getting radical and the violence level is going to be raised. The chess pieces are being moved and it's almost time for a move to be made, but who is going to take it?

In my honest opinion, I think the white house is going to move in on the people first. These protests seem to be striking a nerve with the current administration.


I don't understand.. you were all supportive of the "angry mobs" at the town halls. And now you are not supportive of other people speaking their minds?

Where is the proof of someone showing up in the middle of the night? Hearsay doesn't count.


I with you on that. What happened to gathering evidence before you jump on the bandwagon?

Who came to his house? What did they say? Wheres the police report? Are there any suspects? Does anyone here care? Did anyone learn anything from the fake Kenyan BC? Are facts not your thing if they don't reinforce your view? Do you believe someone just because they say something that you want to be true? Is the MSM only telling the truth when they support your views? Do you support the Obama bashing on fix news, when they were the same ones who called the lot of you "UNPATRIOTIC AND UN-AMERICAN" if you don't support the POTUS in a time of "war". Will you support a the next presidential candidate if fix news tells you too?



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 03:07 AM
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I wonder what was in the message to scare this man's wife.

I don't doubt that he's telling the truth.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 03:11 AM
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I tell you what though, I see alot of people on ATS going back and forth with one another in disagreement, and that's OK. But what it all comes down to is this --- we are ALL in the same boat right now... we are ALL heading for one direction whether or not we can agree on that. Let's at least find common ground with one another, because as citizens, it won't be long before we need one another to get through this big fat mess we're heading into. Forget party lines. Forget all that. We are going to need one another as human beings when or if the shtf and we're looking down that barrel of a gun. I really don't care who is left, right, or right down the middle. It won't matter at all some day.



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posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 03:13 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
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Ya know... if I wanted to venerate the town hall protesters.. I would hire someone, to hire someone, to hire someone else to hire the Union to come in and do this. Or at least get people to dress up like union members and do that.


I smell a rat!

Actually when I read your posts I smell a Rat. In fact is that a pic of you? You look like some kind of bearded lady. I think you are an operative sent from Acorn or some other dem org as they are literally infiltrating every forum with the same tripe your peddling here. The Health care Bill is a National ID in Disquise. But then I'm sure you think a national ID is a good thing and so is being taxed if your an employer that choses not to use the national plan. I'm also sure that you believe that it's a good idea for Big Brother to have absolute access to all your info be it Bank records, health records, hell, driving records, etc etc... go home comrade, this is America.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 03:20 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Where is the proof of someone showing up in the middle of the night? Hearsay doesn't count.


You MUST just be here to troll away. He said that he filed a complaint with the local police and they have a copy of whatever.

Watch the video and don't try and start something with nothing.

b



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 03:29 AM
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It seems to me like the right wing just loves to start trouble and mess things up when they don't get what they want or when they listen too much to the punditry.

Only in America will you see people claim that a health care plan is a "death sentence".

I'm sure these people would just LOVE to keep the current broken medical system and the power of Big Pharma intact. Don't you just LOVE paying out the ass when your insurance won't cover certain procedures?

In fact, instead of protesting, why don't these people call up their representatives and offer them a better alternative? That's far more productive than going on the news and crying "Harry and Nancy sent thugs after me, wah wah wahhhhhhh!"

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posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by The Killah29
Crap like this is the reason I have lost all faith in politics. That's why I may soon become a socialist-anarchist. Way to go America, you ruined it for me.


ohh man no matter how bad things get, i would never consider having any thing to do with the likes of socialist anarchist type groups, wich here in the uk are employed by the labour/conseratives/libdems as a personal rent a mob to carry out violence & hammer attacks against the public or dont agree with government politics. (check out the uaf)
so every political group is up to no good dirty tricks.
support none of the above & dont join angry pathetic groups.



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