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“Hey God, why not just come out and directly tell us?” What’s with all the MYSTERY in TRUTH?

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posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 06:58 PM
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Hey appreciate the post...

to me, behavior is a by-product of "beliefs"

OT

Lawrence Kolberg comes to mind...


I took a look at Kolhberg. To me he has put morality in a neat little box. I don't buy it.

Beliefs have nothing to do with it. As many mothers can tell you, some children come into this world more aware than others and even with a conscious they had no time in this life to develop. What belief could a toddler have?

A word from Jesus...He who knows to do right and does it not to him it is sin.

I see this verse as meaning not what the person was told is right and wrong then if he has been told and goes against it he has sinned. Instead, if someone believes in his heart that something is wrong for them and they do it anyway, then and only then is it sin (morally wrong)...and only for that person.

We may progress in levels but those levels aren't restricted to one lifetime.




posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 12:27 PM
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Was only half serious.


I'm silly sometimes.

AAC



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by OldThinker
Certainly an all powerful God who wanted to convey a MESSAGE could, right? I wonder why there are SO many differing opinions on TRUTH… i.e Pilate asking satirically, “what’s truth?”
I have my beliefs, but who’s to say, I’m right?
You have yours, maybe your right?
WHY ALL THE CONFUSION?
Is EVIL at work? Will TIME tell us?
Or are we not listening? Maybe we are too busy to look?
Guys what are your thoughts on that? Are we being duped by the Devil? Or is he a fairytale?
Please no flaming ok…let’s work through this issue respectfully, ok?
OT out!


God did come out and tell us. It's in the Bible. It is a historical fact that Christ was resurrected and yes the devil is real. You can read about it here in the true and scientific book:
hbcdelivers.s439.sureserver.com...



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by texastig

Originally posted by OldThinker
Certainly an all powerful God who wanted to convey a MESSAGE could, right? I wonder why there are SO many differing opinions on TRUTH… i.e Pilate asking satirically, “what’s truth?”
I have my beliefs, but who’s to say, I’m right?
You have yours, maybe your right?
WHY ALL THE CONFUSION?
Is EVIL at work? Will TIME tell us?
Or are we not listening? Maybe we are too busy to look?
Guys what are your thoughts on that? Are we being duped by the Devil? Or is he a fairytale?
Please no flaming ok…let’s work through this issue respectfully, ok?
OT out!


God did come out and tell us. It's in the Bible. It is a historical fact that Christ was resurrected and yes the devil is real. You can read about it here in the true and scientific book:
hbcdelivers.s439.sureserver.com...



Het thank you for the post and the link...I'll read it!

OT



posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 06:06 PM
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It is a historical fact that Christ was resurrected and yes the devil is real. You can read about it here in the true and scientific book:


Where is the evidence for this so called "scientific fact" ?

True and scientific book ? lol

You're obviously just having a laugh aren't you ?



posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 06:25 PM
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mooo!!!!!!

What's up?


I just started this...was this a post, along the way?

I'll wait for his response....with baided beath? if I spelled that right?

I have visions, of Judge Mills Lane going, "let's get it on!!!!"

Know who He (the bald guy)?

OT




posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by sanchoearlyjones
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I tried to convey that. IMHolyO ....





Man, that's funny....so sorry for missing that earlier, ok? OT=IMHolyO



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 06:07 PM
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God answers never in full,
because God is One, and only when you act from that in full as
a son, you will get your full answers.
so how more you unveil how more answers.
A god that is One gets unveiled by, euhm, Oneness = understanding = justification = love

You don't have to belief in God to be from God,
full picture comes when you are ready.

God is the only possibility because of logics nature.
Read my mails, i can't repeat myself to much.

There is only one absolute truth, because it includes
all, even two seemingly opposites come together in one absolute,
life can logically not be divided.
But logic frees god from that same logic,
and that is lucifer that falls.

Science works on observation, just as mentally diseased people,
why ?all are beliefs.
You believe something is true ? even that is a belief,
that is the only thing you have and is your start to search in logic.
God is the one who decides what is true or not, but you only
have 'beliefs' to start seeing the truth, truth in this world is seen
by what it is not, ignorance keeps you from seeing lies.

That's it. God just answered you, he is one, and he 'needed' this paradox
for himself, when someone talks from one, he talks from truth,
truth another word for gabriel, angel of powers and truth,
will make you grow towards son, Michael, the eagle-vulture eating dead carcass,
lies.

for example:
The bibles eagle is not the kind from the states, its a crossing between
vulture and eagle. This is Michael, or sonship is the moon. Symbols for areas of truth and being.

God is never going to hide his truth behind nice words,
it's the person that is not one that doesn't see it yet.
God is AS a child, because he is free, he has everything and is one, is love,
children can be highly intelligent, but are easily ignored.
There is a serious side too, but it is to pull you in.

Carry his cross of care and you will join him once, even when you're an atheist

truth is absolute, one day it will pull you in.
Some people died for truth before they knew the truth, they are all part of God.

religions did not understand god.
there is no devil, because god is one,
the devil is a symbol for a lie, a lie is divided and can not be,
so as god you decide to step outside god into the nothing, dead
the devil is the accuser, even the angels didn't dare to accuse him
over Moses body... when does religion read the symbols, instead of
abusing them as false gods.

God is one, grow care, justify god, forgive god, god is all,
then you will come home.

Beast can not see theirselves, that's ignorance of God and yourself.
the expected beast is a divided thing, not only one person as antichrist.
Kill the beast in yourself and you will carry the seal,
on the head, means intent, faith, in the hand, means resulted works and fruits.

you are right, nobody as a human can know jesus exsisted,
but gods logic will proove him if you allow,
thats honesty that the church still avoids to see,
they do not know a thing, thats why they can not accuse.
so love for god was based on faith, the choice of direction, where your
beliefsystem will grow into.

God is one, because of this, he does not accuse himself.
honesty will make you angry, but after it, by intent and faith
you will be driven to forgiveness by new understanding,
which is justification of yourself, ending in the total of One.

thats the gospel.
Jonathan.




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