Originally posted by voudew
OK, here, I AM A COP.
I can tell you this, i can think of maybe 5 cops i have ever worked with that like doing traffic stops and writing tickets, and they are doing them to
either get drugs arrests or DUIs. The rest of the time we do them becasue we are told to.
Thanks for joining.
Just for the sake of argument, I would sure like to know how many of those cops you have worked with that have broken the very laws they had sworn to
Cops are doing this because we wanna help people, we like order, peace calm and quiet nights are good. We don't mind that you are on a podeum
speaking yor mind, but we do mind the A** hole in the audiance getting a worked up, because he is the Douchebag who goes out and breaks a store
So...let me see if I understand this right....we are FREE, by your standards, to speak our minds (thank you, by the way), but what you DO mind is the
"a** douchebag" that 'get's worked up' about it? So as long as we don't get worked up about the erosion of our rights or a perceived injustice,
everything is fine, right? Do you ever get 'worked up' when ordering someone to comply with your instructions? Is it ok for YOU to get 'worked up'
but not some civilian?
In those RIOT pics you posted, its comming down to this, idk what you have (weapon wise, knives, guns, etc) or what you snorted, injected, or smoked,
but i do know that if it comes down to it, Im not letting you hurt me or anyone else. And I AM going home to my family at the end of the night.
I'm sorry. They weren't ALL riot pics. I'm sure you would like us to believe that. I threw in a couple more. One was Mr. Rodney King. Remember THAT
one? No riot there, well, unless you consider seven or eight cops beating the hell out of one man a riot. I'm guessing that by the time they had five
or six of the cops beating the hell out him they already knew EXACTLY what he was carrying. Good job cops!
I wanna make something else clear, in those other pics you see, there will always be more cops than the suspect. And you will never see the footage
of when it was 1 on 1, or from the begining of the situation.
Yeah, fraid not. The problem, much to LEOs dismay, is that we HAVE seen that footage as well. One that pops to mind right now is the police chief
tazing the 16 year old. If you like, I can start another thread, call it 'mano o mano' or something like that. Your uninformed on this point. I
don't know how else to say it. I would personally think that cops would behave BETTER when they have someone there watching, but the truth is, there
is plenty of 'cops gone wild' footage that only shows one cop.
Its is the cop's job to ensure the bad guy doen't get away, to break into your house and take your stuff, or hurt your kids, or rape your wife. If a
bad guy gets gets hurt, its there are too many cops, if he get away there aren't enough cops. If we speed to a 911 call, its cops are wreckless, and
if we aren't at your house immediately when you call, its cops are lazy.
Well....judging by the statistics, I would say that the cops aren't doing their job. For some reason, the DOJ doesn't really want us to know the
REAL numbers, but here is what they have:
In 2006, there were an estimated 92,455 forcible rapes reported to law enforcement
Nationwide in 2006, there were an estimated 447,403 robbery offenses.
In 2006, there were an estimated 2,183,746 burglary offenses
Yeah, no offense, but WHAT is it that cops are 'protecting' the people 'from' again?
So, a bunch of cops get into a high speed chase, the perp hits a truck full of a family and all but one dies. A little kid left alone, so that the
cops could bring a couple other guys to justice. Collateral damage? Acceptable?
Another cop is speeding down a residential street, no lights, no sirens, 'going to a call' and hits a kid on a bike. Collateral damage? Acceptable?
If you hear the "horror" stories of 3 cops shooting a guy 9 times. Think about it, each cop only fire 3 rounds, they were not gonna stand arround
going well hes high and drunk and coming at us with a knife, do u wanna shoot or should i?
So, I'm going to overlook the fact that you are saying everyone who gets shot by the cops are high or drunk, as that is beneath even a cop. But, what
I hear you saying is 'well-trained' cops are no better at shooting a 'drunken high' criminal than a few middle school volleyball players? Ever
watch one of those games? Someone yells, 'Got it!' and then, surprisingly, ONE person makes the shot. Maybe cops should take volleyball lessons
If all the cops said ya know what..... F*ck it, we r taking today off, i would bet within 3 hours you would you would have total chaos and within 6
hours you would have Martial Law in place... and maybe 2 hours after that you would be begging for normal cops to come back again.
I wouldn't have to wait the eleven hours, I've been begging for 'normal' cops to to come back for a long, long time now. I think you suffer from
the misconception that civilization is not possible without guys wearing guns, killing innocent people and oppressing anyone who disagrees with them.
Please, do my job, take the badge and gun, if you feel you could do it better, go ahead join the force. I dare you
Just a bit over dramatic. If you were really a cop, how could you be so willing to turn your badge and gun over to someone else? I do my share for the
cops in my community, and yeah, they are good cops.
Military, Firefighters, EMS, and Police... Only the finest become them. Becasue only the best can put up with their problems, their family's
problems, and everyone else's problems without going completely insane.
I think this one requires a separate thread as well. Your assertion that 'only the best' join these four groups is certainly a heart-tugger, (I'm
feeling all warm inside,) but it's false. We wouldn't have the need for Internal Affairs departments, the UCMJ, or the president pleading to not
release pics to save the asses of those, of the finest, that were torturing other human beings.
It's understandable to want to elevate yourselves to demigods when you have such tremendous power. That's human nature. What isn't undertsandable
is the size of the rock that it must take for you to hide under when it comes to being aware of the potential for, and the actual abuses that happen
EVERY DAY in the name of 'protecting us from ourselves.' I suppose maybe that's just human nature as well.
I'm not trying to paint things with one brush. I know it probably seems that way, but this is a discussion about terror generated BY the police and
other government agencies and whether they classify, by definition, as terrorists. If you are asserting that they do not induce terror, and are
therefore NOT terrorists, that is your opinion. One with which I do not agree.
Again, thank you for your input.
[edit on 12-8-2009 by KSPigpen]