Why All The Name Calling- It's a Democrat Led Congress., page 1

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Topic started on 10-8-2009 @ 04:05 PM by jam321

I can't help but wonder why Democrats have resulted to name calling or labeling protesters over the Healthcare bill.

Are they mad because Obama's deadline wasn't met?

Upset that there is misinformation going around?

Irritated that Americans are second guessing Congresses motives?

Why the name calling? The healthcare bill is in the hands of a Democrat led Congress that needs none or very little Republican support to pass bills.

The Democrats have 256 members in the house and only need 218 members to pass a bill in the house.

en.wikipedia.org...

The Senate side is less sure but has great possibility. According to this article 60 should be achievable.

The switch puts Senate Democrats one vote shy of a filibuster-proof majority of 60 seats. They can reach the 60-seat mark if Al Franken holds his current lead in the disputed Minnesota Senate race.

www.cnn.com...

Franken won and I am sure they could convince Lieberman to go along with the Democrats.

So why all the fuss about misinformation and Republican's this and that?

Why don't the Democrats take responsibility for failing to pass a bill they have stated time and time again is important for America?

What about those committees? Don't Democrats control those committees?

Four congressional committees, one in the Senate and three in the House of Representatives, have approved sweeping healthcare overhaul legislation without a single Republican supporting the bills. But fiscally conservative Democrats had to be brought on board with ideas that may lose liberal votes.

Taking a different approach, Senate Finance Committee leaders have been trying to hammer out a bipartisan package, but Democratic leaders want them to wind up by September 15.

"I think the timeline is more than fair," Schumer said. "If we cannot produce a bipartisan solution by then, you have to wonder if the Republicans would ever be willing to agree to anything"

www.swissinfo.ch... 000&ty=ti

Is it really Republican support they want or are the Democrats having difficulty selling healthcare to their own party?

Underscoring the deep divisions among Democrats was concern among members of the Congressional Black Caucus that Obama and the leadership were making too many concessions to the fiscally conservative Blue Dog Democrats.

Leaders of the Congressional Black Caucus said they requested a meeting with Obama.

www.chicagodefender.com...

Do protesters deserved to be labeled because of Congresses inability to get the job done?

IMO, protesters did not derail this legislation. The division among Democrats did.

reply posted on 10-8-2009 @ 04:17 PM by dooper

Well, as a decorated combat veteran, I'm classified by my government as a terrorist threat, and by our Senators and Congressmen, I'm a brown shirt, a thug, a gangster, a political terrorist, and a Nazi.

The Democrats have traditionally resorted to name calling every time they couldn't stand on the issues.

I'm trying now to come up with a suitable gangster nickname. "Two-fingers" isn't accurate,

"Big Pussy" has already been used,

"Loose G" already belongs to the pimp who works the corner,

"Riccobono" won't work with my blond hair and blue eyes,

"Berserker" fits, but it suggests a COMPLETE lack of self control, so you see my problem.

Maybe I'lll hang around some Democrats, piss them off, and see what they call me.

Hope I can repeat it on ATS.

reply posted on 10-8-2009 @ 04:29 PM by redoubt

reply to post by jam321

Why All The Name Calling

I am so often forced to wonder whether people are either blind or stupid. For the sake of this reply, I will assume that your sight has been momentarily obscured.

It's politics. Nothing more, nothing less. Since the early 1980s, this has become the new standard - to label your opponents as enemies of the state and then libel them to make them untouchable.

And you know, it doesn't matter which party because both of the big guys do this. They brainwash their followers into becoming slogan machines, repeating the official line no matter how awful or untrue.

And you know what else? In the meantime, while we gladiators are fighting amongst ourselves, Washington does whatever it pleases because we are too busy making state enemies of our neighbors.

I hate politics... as much as I hate the word 'hate', I really do desipise the political parlor tricks to suck in the trusting and naive.

Don't think, just react... on cue.

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reply posted on 10-8-2009 @ 05:09 PM by jam321

reply to post by redoubt

I will assume that your sight has been momentarily obscured.

Appreciate you going easy on me.

I know its politics. I know both sides do it.

But it doesn't take away from the fact that the Democrats could have passed this bill through and saved us from all the current name calling.

I don't know about you, but my savings are shrinking, my job is shaky, my ability to pay my debts on time is getting harder, and my money buys less food than it used to.

Enough of the name calling. If they feel healthcare is so important at this point in time then they need to pass it with or without Republican help.

That way they can address this economy.

And you know what else? In the meantime, while we gladiators are fighting amongst ourselves, Washington does whatever it pleases because we are too busy making state enemies of our neighbors.