reply to post by Freeborn
deceit in their dealings with kaffirs
While you are quiet right that the Muslims do follow an offensively outdated and racist ideology which allows them to do anything to the 'outsiders'
- - - alas, we can hardly stand on higher ground than them on this issue, they of course get it from the 'old testament' as we call it or the Tanakh
as the Jews call it.
I don't want to get into a debate on which is the worst religion, they're all awful in my eyes. Does the insane ravings of a few hard core clerics
define a whole population? no, of course not!
Why so many people from the middle east happen to dislike the west probably has a lot to do with the constant invasions, bombings, oil thefts, regium
changes, etc which we've been doing for the last 100 or so years - world war one started lets not forget when the british invaded Basra to secure oil
trade routes, exactly the same thing as we're doing there now.
Just because some angry arab shouts his mouth off about the evils our fine nation commits means all arabs feel that way? No, of course not!
If the fall of the empire taught us anything it's that no matter what advantages being ruled by someone else gives people are still willing to fight
for 'freedom' even if its only the freedom to make their own mistakes. Most of these loud mouths and talking heads are just saying whatever crazy,
hardline thing they can think of to look tough -much like BillO or Sean Hanity might... Should all white people be treated as if they have BillO's
stupid opinions? of course not!
Basically i'm saying that you can't judge all arabs on the nut job things a few crazy arabs shout, in fact many of the muslims which move to this
country are doing so because they're fed up with the oppressive life at home - They come here to live a more modernist western lifestyle, these
poeple should be shown Britain at its best - maybe then word will reach home that England isn't the great satan some think it to be, maybe a more
friendly and better understood dialog could open between the two cultures and we'll grow to be trusted friends just as we learnt to trust the
'inhuman Hun' and our most mortal of enemies the dastardly French!
Most muslim familes in this country can speak english, many of them have to speak fluent english so that they can work as Nurses or Doctors in our
staff hungry NHS. All i'm saying is many of the 'muslims' which now live in this country do nothing but good for the country, we can't tar them
with the same brush as AbuHamza and Osama no more than they can link me with Richard Lionheart or Tomas Detorqmenda.
As for those dark satanic mills, indeed quiet the analogy - it is of course a reference to our national hymn Jerusalem, but have you ever considered
what it's saying?
Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
Till we have built Jerusalem,
In Englands green & pleasant Land.
Blake intends to turn britain into a highly religious middle eastern city and he's going to use violence to do it!!! Ye gads, all white people are
terrorists! Infact, Blake did hate the CoE and the anglican churchs are infact most likely what he ment by 'dark satanic mills' - he, like so many
regressive (lol i just called blake regressive) religious ideologs believe in the bible over the church! I know, i know, wild! What does that really
mean though? Well, once you get past the talking snakes, giants and the 'births and deaths notices' chapters of the bible you get to an interesting
section called THE LAW.
Yes back to that crazy, OT or Tanakh - Did your child invite you to worship another god? DEATH BY STONING! Is it that time of the month for your
wife? SEND HER OUY INTO THE DESERT AND MAKE HER KILL SOME ANIMALS! I could go on, of course you might well say 'but jesus canceled that...' well
maybe he did. maybe he didn't the debate is raging (check out conspiracys in religion forum if you doubt it) the point is a large section of nutjobs
the world over still hold the opinion that a wizard in the sky wants them to kill gays, etc, etc. Time and time again this LAW has been called gods
law, etc and all sorts of crazy groups, gangs and conspiracys have tried to reinstate it. Even as late as Blakes time some of the most skilled and
forward thinking people (such as blake) still clung to it like a security blanket - however a far more practical and fair system has been in place
without any sign of changing despite the constant attacks against it, the system has withstood far better debaters than abuhamza and his hook hand,
far more bloody villans than osama.
If you think that our system of governance is going to be eroded by a few nutnuts with a bronzeage religion then you obviously have a rather low
opinon, or poor understanding of the Great in Great Britain.