Ats flood of disinfo is simple..read within

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posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 10:23 AM
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Well some want to make it a conspiracy so i will lay it down strait for ya.

It isn't the Christians or Muslim's Or even people who are not afraid to watch tv.


Recently another conspiracy board...Named GLP
the owner got paranoid..thought people was gonna get him.
hack the server spreading disinfo ect...

he mass banned everybody for a week.
Unless they sent a email saying HEY i aint a hacker or spreading disinfo...and ip didn't trace to a bad site..he unbanned ya.

Well to make a long story shorter.
They are the same user's everyone is cussing right now on ats.

Because they are all now banned on glp.
They still have to spread there disinfo and bs .

Have you noticed the decline of respect for other's? typical glp.

flames after flames.
to make a point you must belittle the threads op.
with verbal abuse.

Well if ya don't believe me im fine with it.

But all of the so called pointless thread's are a direct response of Glp banning thousands of user's.
So now apparently ats has got the dredges of glp to worry about now.


Think about it.
Glp banned thousands of conspiracy nut's.
Where would they go afterward's?
Not many Conspiracy site's worth the hassle..So they came to the best to start there crap.




posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 10:35 AM
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Interesting theory, but couldn't it be just as likely that this is a simple product of the growing popularity of ATS? The 'net is a breeding ground for trolls, the more popular the site, the more attractive it is for trolls.

[edit on 8/10/2009 by PsychoHazard]



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by PsychoHazard
Interesting theory, but couldn't it be just as likely that this is a simple product of the growing popularity of ATS? The 'net is a breeding ground for trolls, the more popular the site, the more attractive it is for trolls.

[edit on 8/10/2009 by PsychoHazard]


Well that kinda fall's into it.
Can you name many more conspiracy site's beside the 2 i mention of the top of ya head?
Not to mention ats is by far the best AKA Brand of conspiracy site's truly.
So they would have to be coming here now.

See ats is different than glp.
There you can post and not even sing in as anonymous.

If you notice all the troll's ect..
Have the same mannerism's as the glp troll's down to a tee.

So i say a influx of user's are gonna be posting soon with senseless stories and what not that people here are not use to.
But they are use to it coming from glp.

+ it's a fact the owner banned thousands of user's blocked there ip's.



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 11:16 AM
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I've never been to that site before but I'm still banned .

we sometimes have to ban entire ISP Providers because of attacks on this website..

Well I emailed them , maybe they'll let me join now



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by Takka
I've never been to that site before but I'm still banned .

we sometimes have to ban entire ISP Providers because of attacks on this website..

Well I emailed them , maybe they'll let me join now


At least you can see my point now.
There are thousands that got banned from there.

They are now flooding ats.

Not a conspiracy per say..But i wanted to point this out.



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 12:13 PM
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I keep seeing threads about ATS being infiltrated, that its popularity is rising, that the people here are starting to have an effect...

Maybe this has been pointed out in one of the many other threads about growing disrespect and disinfo, but I noticed at the bottom of the last U2U I received from the site admin that the email was sent to all of the ATS users who have been on in the last month, and this number was.........wait for it......

Just over 11,000.

11,000.

That's 11,000 world-wide. Or galaxy-wide if you're into that sort of thing.

We--if I may use that term--are simply a molecule in a drop of water in the pond.

I'm not denigrating any of the wonderful research, dialogue, and ideas that are shared here...far from it.

Just wanted to put into perspective how "big" ATS really is.

Edit: After seeing the above comment, if there are thousands flooding ATS, then there are thousands leaving at the same time. Check the U2Us prior to the most recent one and you will see that membership numbers have not fluctuated by much at all.

[edit on 10-8-2009 by Elepheagle]



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 12:32 PM
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Not that it matters, but 11,000 is the number of registered users who took the time to log in. Our unique visitors are well ahead of that.

As to this thread, we sure don't want to position ourselves as slamming another website. Not that the opening post specifically does that, just a little note to not let this thread go there.

Whoever gets here and however it happens is all good as long as they conform to the T&C. I'd say a significant percentage of our members probably are members of multiple sites, conspiracy oriented and otherwise. As long as a member conducts himself (or herself) in accordance with the rules, we're glad to have their participation. I think we've made it about as simple as possible.



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 12:41 PM
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Could it be with the change in President's there's a whole new group of people who are looking into the conspiracy stuff. The Conservative's wouldn't have been here as much with Bush in office. Now that it's Obama they are the new members to ATS. They are waking up to the realities of the world because they finally started looking into how the world really works.

If your guys in office you want to believe everything he says is true but when it's the opposing team your more willing to look at the "fringe" ideas.

Could be what you said also, this was just a thought.

Edit: Not saying the conservatives are spreading disinfo. They would just have different ideas and points of view from the people who are old timers on ATS, so it may seem like disinfo when it's really just an opposing view point. Also since they are new to conspiracies they will be bringing up things the veterans have debunked a hundred times but it is new to the newbies.



[edit on 10-8-2009 by Strictsum]



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 05:13 PM
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Perhaps this sort of (Troll Invasion) thing is not only happening here, but also happening everywhere on the globe, all corners, coast to coast to coast to coast etc.

When I see hateful speech or anything of an "overly hostile nature" being directed towards any situation "better solved calmly", I don't assume it is a result of a website going down.

I see it as a growing condition across the world with many causes behind it.

As for these "refugees" you warn of-

I wonder if they just might settle down and become "human" again once confronted with a superior site.

Just maybe they will appreciate ATS and find some compulsion to "join" and not disrupt.

In the end...all are welcome (from what I am told)if they can obey the simplest laws of civil conduct. I doubt they are "born savages".

Oh! One more thing...about 11,000 registered users. I bet this site has a lot more unregistered readers. I know I spent a very long time scared to join but unable to stay away. I have a strong feeling that many unregistered people are afraid to join.

All peace, health and wealth to you!



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 05:29 PM
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I think the owners of this site should disclose who they work for in form of advertising - and personal vested interests?

Or are they too part of a secret society?

Trolls make them money - yep that's right you heard me. The more trolls or disinfo the more HONEST people respond out of frustration to help educate them on their mistakes..

There is no purpose for a quite get a long forum - the sponsors (advertisers and backers) wouldn't like that - they want friction so more people join in. Of course they won't admit this - why would they?



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 06:16 PM
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They use advertising networks. All in all, you don't know what you are talking about and are going off internet myths. The majority of sites do not even handle their own advertising.

They shouldn't have to disclose anything, private business. But in this case, there is actually no point in disclosing these things because all you gotta do is look to see what your browser is connecting to.

Plus, if you are worried about if they are trustworthy, the ad companies they use should be the least of your worries.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 08:44 AM
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Trolls make them money - yep that's right you heard me. The more trolls or disinfo the more HONEST people respond out of frustration to help educate them on their mistakes..

...they want friction so more people join in. Of course they won't admit this - why would they?


I have to strongly and respectfully disagree. Just off the top of my head:

1). ATS is the only forum I personally know of that removes off topic posts to keep the discussion on track. Bunny trails, deflection, personal attacks, and off topic banter all help increase the post count of a thread. This in turn leads to more page views which in turn leads to more ad revenue. However, we have the 'Off Topic' tag to nip thread derailment in the bud. If ad revenue was more important than intellectual on-topic discussions, there would be no such thing as removing off topic posts.

2). Trolls are banned all the time. There's what is known as 'the right to community management clause' in the T&C's. This allows members who are only here to disrupt, troll, flame, attack, and be a nuisance in general to have their accounts terminated. They may rile feathers and result in a plethora of replies to their posts (thereby generating page views and revenue) but they are shown the door.

3). Just a few days ago we had THIS thread sent out site-wide to cut down on the political trolling. Political trolls inspire responses and create page views but it was still cracked down on for the sake of intelligent discussion.

Honestly, I've never seen a website that is as hard on trolls and off topic deflection as ATS is. The actions are done to uphold standards of discussion and it does take away from ad revenue. Flaming draws profits and bystanders who constantly refresh pages to keep up with the drama but that is not allowed here.

Most forums simply delete blatant things like porn, spam, or outright vulgarity in an effort to get as much revenue as possible but ATS does not do that.

We DO try to be patient and work with 'problem members' as much as possible but when it's a hopeless case or the T&C's just aren't getting through, members do get banned. I feel your accusation is based on a damned if you do, damned if you don't approach. If we try to keep the trolls away, accusations of censorship sprout up. If something slips through the cracks, we get accused of allowing it to happen for the sake of revenue.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 08:48 AM
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could be the main reason I've have wanted to reach through my monitor and choke the # out of some of these new people.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 09:08 AM
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Awesome posts.

I remember the sites amigo's doing the same by closely monitoring trolling and baiting around the US election in an effort to promote civil political debate when surely, if the site was run just for ad revenue, it would have ignored this.

Also the site stops multiple threads on topics. The amount of Blossom Goodchild threads that sprang up, the "hope for a UFO flyover" threads etc and more recently some star seed threads, just to name a few topics that inspired alot of threads that were not let breed out of control so as to maintain the quality of the forum at the obvious expense of the pages and pages of posts and ad views that would have been generated by them.

I forget how good you guys are sometimes.


I don't think the God Like prod freakout has effected the site, otherwise the Skunk Works threads would be in over drive. LOL.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 10:16 AM
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I got unbanned. I got banned for being drunk and posting. Wont happen again.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 12:55 PM
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I sure find it funny how the new people come in and have a revelation,I've been comming here for a few years,2 yrs before I became a member,and yes the threads have gotten a bit off sometimes,I just don't understand if people aren't happy comming here,keep their comments what they are worth to themselves,still some very esteemed members posting





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