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Cargo Ship With Russian Crew missing in Atlantic days after search by unknown masked men

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posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 09:07 PM
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What made me believe it was true that there was a suitcase nuke involved was when they tried to get funding to encase the whole ship in congrete. This would mean that the nuke wasn't found and wen't down with the ship and wasn't recovered by the divers who investigated the wreck. It was a huge media event here in Finland and noone ever explained the idea behind the congrete.




posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 04:48 AM
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Interesting stuff about the Estonia....and indeed about Russian border guards training to board vessels.


The latest on the Cargo ship....



Missing ship feared hijacked by pirates


From the link:




Despite a series of reported sightings, the location of a Russian-crewed cargo vessel missing for almost two weeks is still not known.


The Russian Navy says that its ships are continuing to search for the Russian-crewed ship missing in the Atlantic since August 1. "The Russian Navy ships continue to carry out the [search] task in the Atlantic, following set courses and searching for the Arctic Sea vessel," its statement said.

On Wednesday Russian President Dmitry Medvedev ordered measures to track, monitor and free the ship from the hijackers, if necessary.

Russian authorities have also expressed their concern over the fate of 15 Russian citizens on board of the missing ship.

According to Igor Lyakin- Frolov of the Russian Foreign Ministry, the ministry is doing its best to clarify the situation and to solve the problem. ”For this purpose ministry actively works with all concerned countries and their competent authorities,” he said.

Earlier, reports suggested that Russian ship Ladny is following a vessel that could be the Russian-crewed missing vessel. The information, however, have been refuted by the Russian Fleet.

”The news” followed another unconfirmed report that unnamed ship that resembles the “Arctic Sea” has been spotted in the Spanish port of San Sebastian. Spanish fleet authorities refuted the information either.


While the search is going on in the Atlantic for the missing “Arctic Sea” ship with a Russian crew onboard, speculations are raging in the media over if and why the vessel could be seized by pirates.

On Wednesday Interpol has passed the shocking information to all its member states that the “Arctic Sea” was seized by pirates, according to Itar-Tass news agency’s London department – though the Russian Central Interpol Bureau says they haven’t received any information concerning the possible seizure of the “Arctic Sea” from the General Secretariat of Interpol, according to the Russian department of Itar-Tass.


They add that, according to a pilot of a Portuguese coastal patrol aircraft, he saw the “Arctic Sea” on August 2 while patrolling the Atlantic in latitude of the city of Porto.

After that all traces of the ship disappear, as there are “no indications that it would have passed Gibraltar”, a Spanish coastguard official told the Independent.

The “Arctic Sea”, a Maltese-registered vessel heading to Algeria with a cargo of timber, was last recorded on the AIS Live ship tracking system off the coast of Brest, northern France, at 1.29am on July 30. At that moment the ship was in the western part of the Bay of Biscay.

The ship was due to arrive in the Algerian port of Bejaia on August 4 – which it never did.

The Russian-based company that operates the Arctic Sea says that the crew is highly professional and the captain is known for his experience and discipline.



More in the link.

Earlier reports that a Russian Navy vessel had spotted and was shadowing the Cargo ship appears to have been false.



Voytenko from what I understand, does not work for the owners of the Cargo Ship or the company shipping the 'timber' but is an apparently independent Russian maritime expert.



Could this be a something to consider, in light of the fact the masked men boarded the Cargo Ship in Swedish waters? :



Nordic military alliance to challenge Russia in Arctic




Four Scandinavian countries together with Iceland could form a Nordic military alliance to protect their interests in Arctic, says a report presented by Norway at a special meeting of the countries’ foreign ministers.

The report presented by a veteran Norwegian politician Thorvald Stoltenberg proposes co-operation not limited to a joint military force, but also includes potential joint efforts in international security, air surveillance, air patrols, maritime monitoring and medical services. The report also calls for an independent polar orbit satellite system by 2020.

The interesting fact about the Scandinavian Defence Union, which could unite Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden and Iceland, is that it was supposed to be born immediately after WWII. The Scandinavian four were positive the union was absolutely essential to guard against possible future common threats from the Soviet Union, for example. But the birth of North Atlantic Treaty Organisation superseded these plans.

Today, Denmark and Norway (which were occupied by Nazi Germany during WWll, thus having learnt a bitter lesson) together with Iceland are already members of the NATO alliance, while Finland, which bravely fought both Soviet Union and Nazi Germany in sequence during the WWII and Sweden, which miraculously managed to escape the horrors of war, have so far preferred to stay militarily unengaged.

Now Stoltenberg has proposed pooling efforts and resources in all possible military areas, as well as civil co-operation to ensure the effective maritime monitoring of the North Atlantic, and contiguous areas of the Arctic Ocean and Barents Sea (the so-called “Barents Watch”). The report also mentions the necessity of a “Baltic Watch”.

A mutual declaration of solidarity in key areas of joint foreign policy and a common disaster response unit are planned to deal with any disastrous events.

For Russia formation of the Nordic Alliance could possibly mean that it will be able to speak directly to the Arctic countries, thus by-passing NATO, for 60 years now wholly controlled by the US, which in turn could mean that purely economic interests would prevail. However, this is only if the US does not enter the new organisation, because, strangely enough, it has Arctic territories too.




Certainly this new development might cast new light on the incident, the Nordic Alliance hearing about something this Russian cargo vessel was carrying and decided to act? Flexing it's muscles at Russia?



Was the cargo ship carrying this? And somebody wants it? :


Probe into claim jets sold for $5 each in Russia's Volga Region




MOSCOW, August 6 (RIA Novosti) - Russian investigators in Nizhny Novgorod have opened a criminal case into the illegal sale of MiG-31 Foxhound aircraft hulls at $5 instead of $3.7 million, the Prosecutor General's Office said Thursday.

The sale came to light after an anti-corruption check was carried out to see whether regulations were followed during the sale of items from the Sokol Aircraft Construction plant located in the Russian Volga city of Nizhny Novgorod.

Prosecutors said that in October 2006 - July 2007, unidentified officials from the local department of the Agency for State Reserves unlawfully included four MiG-31 hulls (without engines and weapons) into a list of sale items.

"As a result, long-range supersonic interceptor aircraft that were not for sale were purchased by a dummy firm, Metalsnab, which was not entitled to trade in arms and military hardware," prosecutors said.

The asking price of the MiG-31 hulls was significantly undervalued by a local valuation company.

According to the valuation report one hull was valued at 153 rubles ($4.9) - this initial price was accepted during bidding and the MiGs were sold at this price. However, one hull actually costs around 116 million rubles ($3.7 million).


























[edit on 14-8-2009 by Regensturm]



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 10:02 AM
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The "Arctic Sea" found near Cape Verde?


RussiaToday: Lost ship found?


New information is emerging about the mysterious disappearance of the Russian-crewed cargo ship 'Arctic Sea'. The Financial Times Deutschland newspaper says the vessel has been sighted near the Cape Verde Islands.

The German paper cited two independent sources but did not identify them.



RIA Novosti: Russian warship heads to Cape Verde in search for Arctic Sea


The Russian frigate Ladny is heading toward Cape Verde in the western Atlantic in search of the missing Arctic Sea cargo vessel, the Russian ambassador in Cape Verde said on Friday.



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 04:35 PM
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The Arctic Sea has been found, but the situation is apparently still "dramatic"...


NATO and Russia in contact over cargo ship: NATO


Russia and NATO are in contact over a Russian-crewed cargo ship that has been spotted off the Cape Verde islands after vanishing two weeks earlier, NATO said Friday.

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"We are continuing to follow the situation of the ship very closely and indeed we are actually in contact with the Russians on this subject," Romero said.

Moscow's NATO ambassador Dmitry Rogozin told Moscow Echo radio station all sides were keeping tabs on the ship.

"The situation there is dramatic," he said, without disclosing further details.

The situation is "dramatic" and NATO and Russia keep permanent contact over this. WTF?!

ITAR-TASS: Russia, NATO keep permanent contact in Arctic Sea ship situation – Rogozin


Russia and NATO keep permanent contact in the Arctic Sea ship situation, Russian Permanent Representative to NATO Dmitry Rogozin told Itar-Tass on Friday.

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The NATO representative and Rogozin refused to go into details and to comment on the exact location of the dry cargo ship.



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 04:39 PM
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Here's another link.


RIA Novosti: Situation around Arctic Sea 'dramatic' - Russia's NATO envoy


"The situation is developing quite dramatically there," Dmitry Rogozin said, adding that it was too early yet to assert anything.



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 05:42 PM
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Helmutt, read my post! Supposedly there are 3 "atomic missiles" onboard. Visit urbansurvival.com for the link



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 05:49 PM
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The fact that NATO and Russia keep permanent contact over this, and has several warships involved, and that they also describe the situation as "dramatic" (their words, not the media), and that they also won't disclose the exact location of the ship... All of this indicates that there is likely much more to this story than "just" a hijacked cargo ship with timber...



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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Here is the news article fron whatdoesitmean.com
August 14, 2009


Russia “Alarmed” After Nuclear Warheads Go Missing In Atlantic

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

Disturbing reports are circulating in the Kremlin today over what Russian Military Intelligence analysts are stating to President Medvedev [photo top left] is the “likely theft” of 3 atomic armed cruise missiles recently recovered from the crash site of the Northern Fleets worst ever submarine disaster caused by a still “unexplained” explosion on the K-141 Kursk, and which claimed the lives of all 118 crew members.

According to these reports, the Northern Fleet, working conjointly with Finland Military Forces, utilized the “underwater capabilities” of the Arctic Sea [photo second left] to locate and raise the 3 missing Nuclear Armed P-700 Granit Anti-Ship Cruise Missiles that Russia had not allowed to be salvaged by the Dutch companies Mammoet and Smit International contracted to raise the Kursk in 2001.

Once the nuclear armed cruise missiles were safely aboard the Arctic Sea, these reports continue, their journey was to have taken them across the Atlantic to the United States where they would then be transferred to the care of the US National Nuclear Security Administration where they would then be safely dismantled at what is called the Pantex Plant located in the State of Texas as per the provisions for eliminating these weapons contained in the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START II).

This did not happen, however, as these reports state that when transiting the English Channel the Arctic Sea was “hijacked” by as yet “unidentified commandos” who stormed the ship purporting to be “anti-drug police” in what the Maritime and Coastguard Agency is calling a most “bizarre” situation.

Upon learning of the theft of these weapons, Prime Minister Putin and President Medvedev held “emergency talks” with Finish President Tarja Halonen at the Black Sea resort of Sochi after which Medvedev ordered an immediate search begun for the Arctic Sea using “all available resources” of the Russian Fleet.

Western news sources are reporting that Russian nuclear attack submarines are being sighted all along the Eastern Seaboard of North America as Russia’s Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Vladimir Vysotsky, has stated that “All ships and vessels of the Russian navy in the Atlantic have been dispatched to search for the missing ship”.

Most important to note in these reports, in our opinion at least, is the “grave concern” being voiced by the FSB and GRU that the Arctic Sea’s hijacking may possibly be linked to the upcoming “event” being planned to occur in the United States on, or about, August 22nd, and which these reports warn could very well see all of North America thrown into “complete chaos”.

To what this “chaos” will be about is open to much speculation, but, perhaps, these Americans should heed those words of warning being increasingly shouted at them, such as those from the World Net Daily News Site which is warning:

“Before the late Natalie Grant Wraga died, this foremost expert on Russian disinformation said that the Soviets had become so good at the game that sometimes only 10 percent of their message was disinformation. The difficulty, she often said, was in deciphering which 10 percent of their message was false.

Mrs. Wraga died at the age of 101, alert and active up until the last. Lately I've found myself wondering, what would she have said of Igor Panarin's Thanksgiving turkey, roasted to perfection and delivered to the American media last November 25?

His prediction, you may remember, was that as a result of the financial crisis now unfolding, the United States would break apart into four or six different nations aligned with various economic, social, or nearby national interests.

The United States is actually perfectly poised for such a breakup. An illegal alien was elected president by just over half the nation's population. The elites that allowed him to take office as president know he lacks the necessary citizenship (perhaps the only application of "don't ask, don't tell" they've ever supported). Many of the voters suspect, too. But for the moment they have chosen to remain silent – because of their fear of losing everything in an economic collapse.

But what if the collapse accelerates? And what if bailing out all the financiers who supported the Democrats bankrupts the nation, leaving nothing for ordinary citizens? Will other nations take seriously the IOUs being issued upon future generations by an illegal government? I doubt it. The treasury will quickly find itself consigned to junk bond status by investors. The consequences? Oh, let's guess a 30 percent interest rate (not difficult to imagine if you've tapped out your credit cards and missed a payment).

As the old party phrase goes: When the money is gone, the party is over. And when the government can't provide the goodies anymore, well ... it's anybody's guess where those Obama Democrats will turn next time. The elites would go for the European Union. I doubt the illegals they've added to the voter rolls will follow. Yeah, it's red state vs. blue state, squared.”


[edit on 14-8-2009 by asala]



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 05:53 PM
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Sorcha Faal is not a reliable source. "She" is a known hoaxer...


edit to add:

Sorcha Faal... Internet Hoax Queen Courtesy of David Booth...

[edit on 14 Aug 2009 by Hellmutt]



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 06:01 PM
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There might still be a nuke (or 3?) on the ship, but not because Sorcha Faal says so.



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 06:08 PM
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I know, so I've read. I've been "weighing" pro's n con's..It just all seems to fit in this instance......



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 06:28 PM
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If there's one or more nukes on that ship...

Let's hope they don't plan to blow up a nuke near the Cumbre Vieja. It could trigger a mega-tsunami that would be the greatest disaster ever. Wipe out the entire eastern coast of the USA, etc.

If the Arctic Sea is near La Palma now...



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 06:31 PM
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If they did then they already passed it, Cape Verde is more to the South than the Canary Islands.

And I think that would be a stupid use for a nuke (although I don't see how such things can have an intelligent use...).



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 06:37 PM
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We don't know for sure whether the Arctic Sea is currently near Cape Verde...



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 06:46 PM
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According to Russia Today, 520 miles off the coast of Cape Verde and near Senegal, while the Canary Islands are more than 800 miles North of Cape Verde.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 04:49 AM
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Important update:


The Arctic Sea was detected 1 hour 20 minutes ago. In Biscay Bay!


www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 10:27 AM
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What if there are nukes and it starts a world war three.
Imagine that the boat was hijacked by some unknow group, and it does have nukes on it. They use the nukes to bomb America, we think it's Russias fault, a war on Russia starts, and it turns out the nukes where from the unknown group.

War is what got America out of the great depression, it could also be a plot to get us out of the recession.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 10:35 AM
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Using the location for the ship on the MarineTraffic.com site I made a Google Earth .kmz file showing the ship's journey from 2009-07-15 12:01 to 2009-07-29 12:02, and you can download it here.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 10:52 AM
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Did anyone see this yet?

news.yahoo.com...

p.s. i dont know how to make it just a link....please u2u me and let me know how..thanx

[edit on 15-8-2009 by baddmove]



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by baddmove
Did anyone see this yet?

news.yahoo.com...

p.s. i dont know how to make it just a link....please u2u me and let me know how..thanx

[edit on 15-8-2009 by baddmove]


So they are holding the world ransom for....1.8 MILLION dollars




Sorry, just trying to make light of a serious situation. I truly hope all goes well with this.

[edit on 15-8-2009 by Aggie Man]



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