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posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 10:46 PM

Originally posted by AsTaR
I think that the only problem with my post is that I'm un able to understand math in equation form. I see math visually so when I see a math problem 1+1=2 most people think one plus one equals two. I can't see an equation here until I imagine 1/one something and another 1/one something like 1Apple + 1Apple = 2 Apples
I can't do math without visual reference. Hence I have no clue what formula's are what and what each is used for and what this or that symbol means in math. But I can tell you a story that includes the concept of the math I'm thinking of... thus I wanted someone to basically "see" my concept and place it into a "math" equation.

There's an error in our math when trying to manipulate time (Time Travel) as our current math does not factor in these "infinities" and thus our perceptions of time are wrong by a factor of "infinity" and it will remain that way for "infinity" unless we change out current views of what math truly is...

[edit on 15-8-2009 by AsTaR]

You are correct tho you do lack understanding...

You see the words yo use like me can be some what miss understud..

Time travel as a concept is possible.. but not in the way u think let me show u why

The universe is an object ok? Now this Object is very big as im sure u are aware, so how would I go back In time?

well what is time? this is 1 factor
What is relaity thats 2
what would be the outcome of me doing this actions this is 3

So now we have another complex issue here .. Time itself is the issue.. in this regard

If one would go to another "time" then one would change that time right? u see?

that would lead to ANOTHER time.. so what time would be the right one? "multiverse theroy"

You see the problem is not time but how one understands it, I understand your point

But you can only ever be in one place ALWAYS.. this aint the movies

You can NOT time travel... Time is constant for EVERYTHING.. BUT

you "theoretical" go to another UNIVERSE that is a reflection of another

Kinda like a ripple in a pond

not all ripples are the same but they was created by the pebble u thru in ;~)

and yes im very smart and no i didnt come from your planet... hehe

humans.. are way way thinking inside a box ..

let me ask you a question.. if i can

what way is up?

posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 09:00 AM
These are my thoughts. I want everyone to know that math was my worst subject in school.

SymmetricAvenger wrote:
0=Chaos
1=Logic
and also
1=order=patterns=evevrything that is symmetric
and also
Observer=you
Viewer=you

Our math is based on the concept of Chaos (0). To understand what we see but cannot explain, we need to discover a method of math that is based on Love (all possibilities exist). How to do that, I have no clue.
I'm 100% sure that "it" (math based on Love) exists. Can I provide proof? No, I cannot. Just because I can't provide proof, does that means "it" (Love based math) does not exist. No, it just means the human race has not discovered it, yet.
Examples: When the human race did not understand gravity, electricity or magnetism, did that mean "they" did not exist. NO, just meant we had not discovered them.

Observer=you AND Viewer=you. That is based upon the "assumption" that there is no one else that can be an observer. There are "Observers"!! Who are they? The ones who invented the math sysytem based on 0=chaos.

These are my thoughts at this point in time. They may change upon further discussions, exploration and/or observation.

posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 10:00 AM

hehe thank you for quoting me

It is not about love my friend its the understanding of what you ARE.

Math is a tool.. use by humans to understand things

I ask a very simple question in this regard.. what way is up?

Now talking about "space time" we have to understand the very words we are talking about

Space

Time

what is space? space is the reality of ones self

Time? time is the flow of you being here

You see the point?

math is only a sub section of one eqaution we call life.. the other?

here is a funny thing to say when you are in the pub "and this does freak people out"

How old are you? "old" based on time correct?

I am as OLD as the UNIVERSE..

And why?

because it made me . from its very conception

you have to have logic to work this out.. you can not understand something as complex as being here

Big bang? what bang? there is no sound in space.. OHH what is space???

you see the UNIVERSE is INSIDE something not just here...

what is it in? well.. YOUR HEAD for a start because the universe works the same way YOU DO

you ask questions.. "you never notice it" when it happens your to busy thinking about what you will say next lol

But that little spark in your head... is what you live inside..

a question is what made what you are in and what you will leave in due time. "ironic i even use the word"

So the point is ALL of time is the same!

that is why we have the universe.. Inner OUTTER

Ying Yang

1 0

blah blah

kinda simple when u think of it "mind you not that many people do think"

and in respect to Time travel.. Yes you can but you wont be in the same place my friend....

you would create a whole NEW time if you could.. and you cant its not how it works

We are STUCK here...ALWAYS

the person "i use that word lightly" gave it rules.. and one of them is that you can not effect the NOW only the PAST that will become the NEW now.. get wat am sayin?

posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 10:10 AM
-T(E) = Art

I'll just leave this here:
www.lawoftime.org...

posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:54 PM

symmetricAvenger, you asked "what is space?" Did you know, that you would give the answer later in your post? My definition to "what is space" is the spark inside your head, which is called "Creative Thought". Look back over history and see how our definition of "space" changed. There is a direct coorelation between a "new" thought and a change in the definition. That is what I'm saying now. It will take a creative thought, a spark, to change our current definition of space.

It's not about love, it's about understanding what you are. The understanding what you are is absolutely correct. Follow all of your actions and emotions back to their origin and you will discover your action or emotion was either based on fear/chaos or love. So, as a person with free will you can chose either love or fear/chaos. Why do so many of us chose fear? It's what we are!! Why???? Everything around us is a system based on chaos/fear. Math, religion, government, education etc.

So, how do you or any other math person, propose to base a system based on "love"? The symmetric universe would have a math sysyem based on love, pure logic. Could the anti-matter that makes up the majority of this universe be the "love" math system? I believe so.

These are my thoughts and beliefs at this time. Further discussions, explorations and thought could change them.

posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 03:42 PM

I know I answered it i was showing you lol !!

Love has nothing to do with math.. Love is a emotion.. I do not like them to much lol more so because i understand them.

You see when one deals with logic then you can "piss" people off..

Now Love for the person sat next to you or on the bus or over the road is based on logic why?

Little word called respect.

To have respect for each others values ! even if you do not agree.

We are not the borg in this respect
But to act like the Hive mind would be a good idea but you do not need to be the borg.

We already have a hive mind ... we use MONEY go to WORK and have kids "some"

So it would not be hard to collectivity get off this planet !

Worrying about who has the most money and "ILL GET WHAT I CAN FU JOE" will only doom our race and we will end up like the dinosaur

Not good

and no amount of "space time" is going to change that little cracker

posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 05:49 PM

What about anti-matter? Does anti-matter have anything to do with math?
Why do you believe the human race has not discovered what anti-matter is? Could it be that we have not discovered the math to explain it yet?

Back to love. You said math has nothing to do with love but does determine who you are. Love and fear are who we are. For a "universe" to have free will (ability to make a choice), then you must have opposites to chose from (right/wrong, good/bad, love/fear). If love has nothing to do with math, then why is our current math system based on fear/chaos? To keep the universe symmetric we need to a have a math system based on love.

These are my thoughts at this point in time.

posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 06:14 PM

Originally posted by wheelwalker

What about anti-matter? Does anti-matter have anything to do with math?
Why do you believe the human race has not discovered what anti-matter is? Could it be that we have not discovered the math to explain it yet?

Back to love. You said math has nothing to do with love but does determine who you are. Love and fear are who we are. For a "universe" to have free will (ability to make a choice), then you must have opposites to chose from (right/wrong, good/bad, love/fear). If love has nothing to do with math, then why is our current math system based on fear/chaos? To keep the universe symmetric we need to a have a math system based on love.

These are my thoughts at this point in time.

because anit matter is not real.. just like the higs partical its only a number in an equation

You are important tho
we give things stupid names all the time to try and be smart so we look like we know what we are talking about when 90% of the time we dont

We use to think the world was flat ???? do you know why that was? because people look down at there FEET...

And no offence but LOVE is an emotion that comes from being you not the UNIVERSE in that respect

To understand one another is that LOVE? do i LOVE my cat? do LOVE my plant? you see the word LOVE has many meanings and gets banned about like its the be all and end all

you see my point i hope we are talking MATH not new age stuff sorry

posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 07:26 PM

Big bang? what bang? there is no sound in space.. OHH what is space???

There is "sound" in space it's merely "visual" in perception.
Look at a galaxy Edge on and you will see it resembles an audio wave form on a line (galactic center) with various points on one side of the line and various points on the other side. With each "point" seen you have a "planet or star" marking a certain "tone" on the wave if you were to arrange these celestial objects out into musical form what would the music play? The sound of life?
I think galaxies resemble CD's as they are flat disc's that contain information stored in form.... that come to life when light strikes them.
Now imagine that the universe is the "machine" that plays these CD's....
The data to a PC is the CD....
The data to the Universe is the Galaxy....
Thus is it not safe to say that the "universe" is 2D because it is the inside of a LOGIC Machine?

Oh and there is no up or down or left or right these are illusions of gravity.... in reality there is merely what exists all around you in all different directions called time lines that branches outside of your conscious thoughts of what possible choice of future you choose to follow.

And I will agree with you that love is and contains math.... it is close in resemblance with space/gravity/celestial body's they are attracted to one another through an invisible force called gravity and magnetism. Are these not similar to "love" and "lust"
One is attraction of "sight" to look closer and the other is attraction of "feeling" to be closer to the "object" that "attracts" for no reason's of logic. But to hold place of logic itself.... as a definition of what logic is not so that logic can be what is is not.
Without definition what is there? Logic. As logic is definition itself. TRUE or FALSE | YES or NO... the rest is a questions to logic.... called Time and Space matter and light to cause visual perception of form and factor and relation between to opposite objects.

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posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 08:35 PM

I do not mean to be offensive here

You are mixing so much stuff up that really has nothing to do with math

there is NO sound IN space.. NONE

confusing SOUND with the spectum of waves that do in habbit space is just silly

if you was IN space you would NEVER here BANG would you?? just because you are AWARE of the waves does not make it true..

thats like saying you can Hear TV in space??

sure the single is there but you cant HEAR It ..

Im done here..

posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 09:14 PM
You are mixing so much stuff up that really has nothing to do with math
there is NO sound IN space.. NONE

Sure there is but it's stored as form.... in the form of a visual wave. And I am not speaking of audible sound... I'm talking visually when you rattle sand on paper it creates form from vibrations.
Think on a larger scale and think of how audio is stored on a CD in logic/binary.
This is similar to Galaxies(CD's)
on the CD surface is audio stored in binary (Much like binary life on the surface of a "galaxy") and when read into a digital to analog converter the digits form a pattern or waveform of audio...
If you look at a galaxy edge on you'll see what I mean about resembling a wave form of audio. Together all life and all matter create a "musical" sheet that "could" be cued to play if one knew how to read musical tones on a scale stored in another scale.

On a CD's surface you can see the audio/music but you can't hear it... but it does still exist as an audio stored in a language you can't understand.

Hang on I will make you a quick image of what I mean and attach the URL.
files.abovetopsecret.com...

files.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 16-8-2009 by AsTaR]

posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 10:15 PM

Originally posted by theuhstuf
-T(E) = Art

I'll just leave this here:
www.lawoftime.org...

If T(E) = Art then (E)T = Life

And does the reference to your URL not point to the time "13:20" Or as I said above 3 | 2 : 1(0) as well as relating to Pi

However the math is written.

BTW nice time stamp on your posting 10:10am and you joined on ATS on 03/03/09 And I noticed the time I replied is basically 10:10pm (minus the slight side track I had to upload the pictures I did ... I would probably have posted this reply exactly at 10:10pm without even noticing)

[edit on 16-8-2009 by AsTaR]

posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 01:38 AM
New Math is needed even Dr. Kaku is saying this now!
CHECK it out!

posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 04:20 AM

its not about NEW math its about understanding what MATH in fact is

... let me show you

The universe was created why? well because you are here

you are the logical part of the universe in order for it to work... you know.. LIKE DNA

that is math... or the NEW math they are looking for

YOU LIVE INSIDE SOMETHING THAT IS ALIVE... DNA is not a joke

its the very same code that created the universe "one aspect of it"

the other flip side is the question of why it happened and how we got here..

this my friend is the reason for it all "WHY" this little cracking word is GOD for all life

It makes things work...

let me ask you a simple question in relation to this

does a tree ask if its a tree?

posted on May, 21 2010 @ 05:05 PM
This was one of my first channelings it was very hard to understand I had to fix it over and over and it still looks like a mess.
The spirit who came to me who helped me write this told me his name was The "Carl Sagan"

posted on May, 25 2010 @ 01:59 AM
I rescind all my statements it was all a hoax.

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