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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Frankly I don't trust the Government whether it's run by Republicans or run by Democrats to adminster something like Health Care.
Originally posted by desert
reply to post by mhc_70
Yes, there is anger...but two kinds of anger...
On one angry side, the vocal side being activated by groups whose interest is NOT wanting health care change, people are angry over the govt even TRYING to reform the health payment system. These people are getting the media play.
On the other angry side are those who are angry that the proposals so far seem to be weakening to not include single payer, public option, etc. THIS voice is being drowned out...tactically.
The disruptors play to the hands of the corporate interest, whether they realize this or not. Corporate (status quo) interest is drowning out the voices of those who want to see something radically different.
It is still a game of corporate interest masquerading as a friend of the citizen, on their side, versus citizen interest. Corporate interest has so far played on irrational fears (killing off the elderly), and now wants to include those angry about foundational fears. People fear govt control, but here is an example of corporate control of people.
In corporatism, the corporation cannot condone discussion it doesn't want. This is corporate censorship.
Originally posted by Sestias
Well I, frankly, don't trust the private sector to administer something like health care. It's all about profits, not about people or human life. Like the insurance company that once turned down my claim because it was for treatment of a pre-existing condition. Like, they will only cover you if you haven't been sick. If you have been sick they'll collect your premiums but it's bye-bye when you make a claim.
Originally posted by mhc_70
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
It drives me crazy when somebody says something so much better than I can
President Obama is now impeachable, because he has, in effect, proposed legislation which is an exact copy of the legislation for which the Hitler regime was condemned in the post-World War II trials. It is an impeachable offense to propose such a thing in this time. With this statement from him, the President now deserves impeachment.
What the President, and his cost-accounting henchmen, like budget chief Peter Orszag, are now insisting on, as the centerpiece of their health-care "reform," is precisely what LaRouche had identified weeks before. Having adopted the view of the British financier oligarchy, that society cannot afford to put its resources into maintaining what Nuremberg Trial veteran Dr. Leo Alexander called the "non-rehabilitatable sick," the Obama Administration has concluded that there are some (i.e., many) lives "not worthy to be lived." They have thus fixed on a mechanism to make the decisions as to who will get the scarce resources. Not surprisingly, they came up with the same approach that Hitler did in 1939—setting up a board of experts to determine who shall live, and who shall die. The program, which killed hundreds of thousands of Germans even before the mass killing of Jews began, was called T4.
In fact, the CMS is, right now, about to issue a ruling that Medicare and Medicaid will issue "bundled payments for kidney dialysis" from January 2011 onward. Reuters notes correctly, in reporting the ruling: "Under the bundled system, dialysis providers will receive a fixed payment [per patient] for all services and drugs. The dialysis center would effectively profit by spending less money on each patient."