Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by tamusan
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Ok, so what you are basically saying is that even though you think SP is pretty nutty, you believe she is right saying that Obama has death panels in
mind only because you haven't seen the bill?
So you believe anything because you have no proof otherwise? No matter how ludicrous it may sound at first glance?
I can understand your desire to view a plan, have transparency etc. I'm with you there.
But to venerate an idiot like SP just because you haven't seen it yet doesn't seem like a way that will actually be productive.
Folks like me would definitely support and echo the case for transparency... but that doesn't make some "maverick" from Alaska spouting absurdities
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
[edit on 8-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]
Hunka friend, you like I like everyone else is the sum total of your life's experiences that form your persectives and thoughts.
Based on my real life experiences, my first hand interactions with people of power and influence, my own interactions with the government, and my own
study of history and human behavior I don't consider Palin's concerns to by 'nutty' when it comes to a 'Death Panell'.
If you understood better the intellectual appeal to notable luminaries including some who are very influential in Government and quasi/psuedo
Government Agencies aka/Shadow Government of Eugenics and Euthenasia and that is has been practiced previously in pre-World War II America and the
reasearch in Nazi Germany on the subject was financed in large part by American Luminaries...
It would be 'nutty' to not be concerned.
You live in a different world though than I do where you imagine things like that happen in isolated vacums at random periods of time carried out by
people who just happen to have been inflicted with some evil that we are all always vigilant to detect and stop.
The reality is many people choose not to be vigilant, many people choose to expose themselves to chance and circumstance with out forethought or
caution and those are typically the people that History has proven end up sterilized, experimented on or murdered.
The kind of thinking inherent in the Powers that Be is foreign to you. Because you can not think in those terms and want not to think in those terms
you really do believe anyone who would is an isolated annomily who would be quickly detected rooted out and exposed...
That though is precisely what 'nutty' people like Palin and 'I' are trying to do in defeating the Health Care Bill is to root out and expose so it
Not because we trust blindly that it can't or won't happen or that someone else will prevent it, but because we are prepared to speak and act to
make sure it doesn't happen.
You call that 'nutty' I call that 'wise'.
Have you ever been to the Bohemian Grove Hunka? I have. Do you know anyone with that kind of wealth and power? I do.
I can tell you honestly that is what the Government which is controlled by such people would find attractive in Socialized Health Care...I know this
because such people have long told me it's an ongoing goal.
I can tell you that in there world of a world they really do manage by providing the logistics and resources for life as you know it to everyone
including you and I that they consider Eugenics and Euthenasia as not being evil but simply sound management to divest themselves of the burden of a
class of 'worthless eaters'.
Now that's the world you want to pretend doesn't exist, because you have never been exposed to it first hand in a way where you could allow yourself
to accept the disturbing truth of it.
It's a world you likely will never see or be given entry to or proof of because you aren't a critical thinker.
Critical thinkers are in fact in favor of such things as Eugenics and Euthenasia and Palin knows some of these people, because 'nutty' or not, these
people are in fact responsible for her political career.
The honest truth is if elected as President Sarah Palin would help herself to carry out and further Eugenics and Euthenasia programs and do so without
batting an eye.
She can make the accusation easily and readily because she actually knows that such plans exist, have long existed and are a top priority to the
Shadow Government and the Powers that Be and she would never be in the Political Position she is in and neither would Obama if they weren't down with
So why then would she throw that out there and expose it?
So people who find the thought so repugnant and so abhorent such as yourself that you can't even imagine it being done, can convince yourself and
others it never will be done, and end up going along with it and inviting it in that fashion.
A lot of people in politics come across as 'nutty' and 'goofballs' and that is to disarm you and give you a false sense of supiority to where you
don't take the very real things they are saying credibly.
That's the real world I live in, and the real world you live in, wants to believe nothing is real that doesn't have a corresponding URL.
It's pretty easy to shape your reality for you, because all you want to have to do is shape it by pushing a button where your reality is then fed to
You ignore these things at your own risk. Millions of people in Nazi Europe chose to ignore things at their own risk too.
There were 28 states in the United States up until World War II that had Eugenics Laws where forced sterilization was carried out on whole families
because of birth defects in the family or poor grades or attendence at public school.
Don't think it can't happen here? Guess again.
Don't think it can't happen again? No offence but with guys like you on the job there is no way it won't happen again!
You don't actually see the frustration and base hatreds and prejudices that unbalance your mind and your thinking because you are too wound up in
them. They have been fed to you, you have swallowed them, they effect your thinking, your ego has taken over, and you simply want to be right for the
sake of you being right.
So did lots of other people who had numbers tatooed on their arms, courtesty of IBM to be adminstered through the first punch card computers courtesy
of IBM who developed them right here in America for the Nazi Government to conduct experiments in Eugenics and Euthenasia efficiently.
Computers sure have come a long way then, sadly people's critical thinking hasn't.
Loose the vitirol and try looking at all sides with a clear mind and stop using your own morals as a guide stick at how you imagine the rest of the
world should or does operate and you can be a critical thinker too.
Until then, no offense, but you really are just a windup doll.
I am not, I have no allegiance to any G-d or Government, my mind isn't for rent.