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Health care opponent calls for town hall violence via Twitter

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posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 03:51 AM
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Health care opponent calls for town hall violence via Twitter


rawstory.com

a health care protester in New Mexico had been encouraging those following him on Twitter to bring their guns to town hall meetings — and use them if provoked.

“If ACORN/SEIU attends these meetings for disruptive purposes, and you have a license to carry….carry,” Scott Oskay wrote in one tweet. In another, he suggested, “Stop being peaceful, and hurt them. Badly.”
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posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 03:51 AM
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This situation is getting uglier by the minute. There are now calls for anti-health care reform protesters to arm themselves before attending rallies. If the earlier thread about the man getting beaten up at one of these rallies is any indication of how protesters are going to be treated, I can't really call it a bad idea. People have the right to both assemble and defend themselves. This is going to get interesting.

Edit: This is the thread I was referring to.

TA

rawstory.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 8-8-2009 by TheAssociate]



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 03:52 AM
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Sounds as if a certain group REALLY stands to lose big time if the health care plans go ahead.



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 04:28 AM
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Doesn't this sound suspicious? Sounds like some group attempting to discredit the protesters. It looks like a setup and smells like a setup, sounds like a setup. Might it be a setup?

Who would be behind such proclamations of violence? Would it be the so called "democratic party", or maybe the Obamanoids? How about those who live covert lives in the agency known as The Agency?

All i can say is it wold be a very unwise move on the part of protesters to heed this advice. i can see all kinds of negative actions arising from this. Such as new laws degrading our 2nd amendment rights, new laws degrading our freedom of speech, new laws degrading us as Humans period.

Someone needs to tweet that fool to shutup.

love and peace



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 04:38 AM
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You may be right, this very well could be some sort of set-up. Considering all the general craziness surrounding these protests, I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility without due consideration.


TA



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 04:57 AM
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No, it actually sounds just like the usual crap from the right. I don't know how sheltered you are, but really? These days most of those calling themselves "conservatives" are actually just reactionaries with no real ideology or thought of their own. They're angry that "their team" has lost power and is set to keep losing it, they're angry that an "African" is in the white house (instead of a Panamanian, I guess.) and they're angry that... Uh... Well, judging from the "tea parties" they're angry that they got a tax break and now they're angry that they're getting health care.

In short, these are insanely stupid people. And if you count yourself among their number, then yeah, I'm calling you insanely stupid, too.

Insanely stupid people say and do insanely stupid things. This is just the latest example.



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 05:48 AM
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Do you suppose this person is a DNC shill to give Obama ammunition while he slanders the hard working people who just want to be heard. I would not be at all surprised.



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 06:23 AM
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i do not see this as being some "conservative" that decided the "rights" anti healthcare protesting has reached a point where words just don't cut it. It is too early for that state of mind to have kicked in as of yet. Psychologically speaking, the time when mass societal hysteria will kick in is when society is presented with a catalyst event. If the "town hall meetings" were canceled and put to rest, IMO, then that would be the time those who are protesting will feel helpless and disenfranchised, and MAY resort to violent, or aggressive behavior to get their point across. At this time there is sufficient outlet for release within these "meetings".


"Politics" is just professional wrestling with men and women in (pant)suits & ties instead of spandex underwear. Instead of using pre rehearsed physical moves, using pre rehearsed strokes of the pen. You call me sheltered but you maintain your paradigm concerning "politics", so this begs the question, how sheltered are you Sir/Madam? Which flavor of MSM do you mix with your flouridated water?

If one is to look at it from the point of view which i take to be reality, which is simply that "politics" is a pastime on a grander scale than daytime tv, then yes, a "conservative" or a "republican" could have twittered the message, just as "democrat" or "liberal" could have as well. It does not matter, as the end goals are the same. Those who are really in power, IMO, are wanting some form of violent escalation, some form of aggressive behavior to ensure their end goals come about as smoothly and as streamlined as possible.

love and peace



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 06:24 AM
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The opponents of heath care have every right to attend meetings and behave civilly...and that is the crux of the matter their hysterics are making it impossible for those who really want to hear about the options from their representatives from doing so.

Its organized. There is no question about it. The goal is to so obstruct the process that it cannot go forward and like most right wing strategies of late it is going to blow up in their faces.

When you consider that one of the groups promoting these protests on the internet is:


One of the leaders behind those organized efforts is Mr. Rick Scott, a former hospital CEO. He is using his own money and founding from his supporters to run the Conservatives for Patient's Rights movement. He and his supporters are strongly opposing the proposed health care reform put together by the Obama administration. One thing everyone should know about Mr. Scott is that the company that he founded and worked for for many years was fined 1.7 billion dollars in fines, after an investigation into it's illegal practices of over billing state and federal health plans. That is not a mistake, the figure is 1 point seven billion, with a "b", in fines. That is by far the largest fine ever imposed on hospitals.

www.politicalblog.us... (and as reported on the CBS evening news last night)


Then the whole thing takes on a totally different character.

Mr. Scott is not only not exactly impartial he is hardly the moral choice to be the voice for this so-called movement.

BTW this whole disrupting town hall meetings doesn't need some Democratic operative to discredit it when they are doing a perfectly good job of discrediting themselves by their behavior.

[edit on 8-8-2009 by grover]



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 08:05 AM
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wow, I just read your post and saw this;"How about those who live covert lives in the GREASY WORLD known as The Agency".
Seriously, saw it written in black and white just like that(without capitals,read it back cuz it seemed an ouver the top remark within the comment and then saw what you'd really written with surprise).
Thought I'd mention it as these weird moments usually mean something relevant to someone particular in a particular moment and so have passed it on in the relevant place.

On topic, I played a minor role as "info conduit " in the #iranelections green revolution twitter-side early on in the scene in June, but dropped out to a more useful , less public presence after all of a sudden loads of recently opened twitter a/c's started flooding the flow with disinfo and encouragements to riot rather than peaceful protest.
This has a very similar smell to it to me.
Sounds like a plant for sure ; hopng to incite some mentally borderline case,totally had enough victim,to "create a scene "whereby anti healthscare protesters can all be portrayed as dangerous threats to society ,order , etc ad nauseum to the general,blackbox in the corner wacthing,public and hence the following suppression becomes legit because "we told you so " (9/11 anyone? ).
You know the script, been used a squillion times in different scenario's many times, all over the world,
thru out history, to promote personal /corporate/governmental etc etc agenda's.
grrr



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 08:09 AM
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Before this is over, there will be blood in the streets. From some of the comments I've heard on ATS from the opponents of Nationalized health care; even here there seems to be calls for armed rebellion over this issue.

Where big money is concerned, violence is always just underneath the surface.



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 08:22 AM
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I hope they do arm themselves, they have every right to defend themselves against government sponsored socialist labor union thugs. I hope they take their revolt all the way to the White House and throw -SNIP- on the next flight back to Chicago where can shove his "change" where the sun don't shine.

Mod Edit - Please Review This Link



(1) Politically inspired name calling of an ideological group is not allowed: examples: "Loonie Libs," "Obamaites," "Repuglicans," etc.


[edit on Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:21:03 -0500 by MemoryShock]



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 08:25 AM
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Its organized. There is no question about it. The goal is to so obstruct the process that it cannot go forward and like most right wing strategies of late it is going to blow up in their faces.


What protest isn't organized? Are you saying that every protest over the last 8 years was unorganized? How about ACORN rallies? Do those just randomly sprout form the ground?

You sir, are a victim of MSM propaganda. I'll bet money you watch a lot of MSNBC.



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 08:45 AM
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Insanely stupid people say and do insanely stupid things. This is just the latest example.


Have you ever talked and LISTENED to these people you are calling stupid? I do not mean the rabble rousing media mouth pieces, but the guy plowing the field or driving a truck or granny in her garden or the construction worker and electrician who live nearby.

I have talked to them and they are very worried. Many more of them than I would have guessed actually can see what is going on and are justifiably angry. As far as I can tell SOMEONE is trying to touch off wide spread violence so it can be used to clamp down with Martial Law. Unfortunately all it will take is a couple of hot heads to light the fire.

I suggest you read up on Muslims of America and Islamberg NY because ALL of the paramilitary trained ex-con fanatics with their assault weapons have gone missing all over Canada and the USA. And that terrifies the he!! out of me. Union thugs are peace loving hippies compared to these dudes.



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 08:53 AM
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OK..that was wrong!!! Theirs no reason to kill or threaten to kill someone. Sorry, but the guy wanting to shoot them is outta line big time. In the past, at rallys, meetings, protests, peple would throw things at the politicians...cabbages, tomatoes, batterys, eggs, water n flour, human dunn, ballons with urine in them. Thats the way to go! to express yuor anger. Cover em in vile organic waste..ic annot imagine what else could express yuor anger and get the truth across
And the best part!!! NO one dies!!!! Well, unless the politicians thugs take youo out back to make an example to others..thats a lille different, but always show yuor the better person, especially if it does not involve huring or killing someone! Thats my modo.



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 09:09 AM
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If this was a liberal posting these comments alot of you would be saying this is what happens when the opposition incites violence at a previous protest.

But since it is a Republican then its just so awful.

I wonder if there will be any cigarrette smoking, over weight, heavy handed liberals hanging out at this protest like they did the last one?



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 09:31 AM
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I too sense something of a plot here as well.First the brawl at the other town meeting and now the clint eastwood lunatic fringe call to arms on twitter.What next?Will the national guard start attending town hall meetings?



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 10:20 AM
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I don't even subscribe to cable...

based on your responses I bet you listen to a lot of mush loosebowels.



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by M157yD4wn
Doesn't this sound suspicious? Sounds like some group attempting to discredit the protesters.



Really? You think a threat on twitter is an attempt to discredit someone?

Really? Ockahms razor man...




It looks like a setup and smells like a setup, sounds like a setup. Might it be a setup?



Whoa hold on just a minute...

it might LOOK like a setup to you, but not to me.





Who would be behind such proclamations of violence?



Maybe it's the same people that here on ATS yesterday threatened to "take their guns and wipe people [like me] off the face of the earth?"



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 07:04 PM
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What happened to the good days? Oh yeah, they weren't so good either.

Is bloodshed necessary? I sure hope not. Things will get so much worse then.

Most city-owned buildings here at home are 'weapon free' zones. We're not allowed, by ordinance to carry, concealed or otherwise, unless you're a cop, of course.
Anyway, it would make sense to check your applicable local, state and federal laws to avoid unnecessary incarceration.


but seriously, if someone has a CC, they are prolly packing at these meetings anyway.

I would try to be really careful about who I listen to.

violence begets violence. always.



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