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Originally posted by Floating thru Reality
So it's safe to say that you are for the mass killing of innocent civilians. You cheer when you see cities like Dresdon being destroyed and all it's inhabitants merclessly slaughtered? If an enemy of your country ever attacks inside your borders, you won't have a problem with them doing the same to you and your family then. Enjoy the slow death by radiation poisening when that time comes.
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by Mintwithahole.
Did you know the first civilian bombing that happend happend by mistake? And Hitler chewed the crew that did it out personally? Of course that started an orgy of unrestricted bombing on both sides when the English retalliated but I find it ironic it happend by mistake.
 The Western Front, 1939 to June 1940
Following the German invasion of Poland and subsequent declaration of war by the Western Allies, in Hitler's OKW Direktive Nr 2 and Luftwaffe Direktive Nr 2 made no mention of strategic bomber raids, while attacks upon enemy naval forces were permitted only if the enemy bombed Germany, with the exception in the German Bight, noting that "The guiding principle must be not to provoke the initiation of aerial warfare on the part of Germany"; by contrast, Göring's directive permitted restricted attacks upon warships anywhere, as well as upon troop transports at sea.
Britain and France declared war on Germany on 3 September. On the Western Front, the early months of the conflict were characterised by propaganda warfare: bomber forces of both sides carried out a series of leaflet raids during the winter months of 1939/40. The British Royal Air Force bombed German warships at sea and in harbour, attacks on land targets and German warships in port were banned due to the risk of civilian casualtiesGermany carried out strikes on the British naval bases at Rosyth and Scapa Flow on 16 and 17 October. Further attacks on Scapa Flow, on 16 March 1940, caused the first British civilian deaths from German bombing on land, which prompted another British attack, against the German seaplane base at Hörnum.
On 10 May 1940, Germany invaded Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxemburg, intending to drive though the Ardennes into France and strike a quick blow that would end the war. As the Battle of France commenced on 10 May 1940, three German bombers from KG 51 mistakenly bombing the German city of Freiburg instead of the French airfield of Dole-Taveux, having lost their way over the Black Forest. German propaganda was quick to announce it as an Allied 'terror attack', and it was not until 1956 when the mistake was brought to light by researchers. While Allied light and medium bombers attempted to delay the German invasion by striking at troop columns and bridges, the British War Cabinet gave permission for limited bombing raids against German communications targets such as roads and railways west of the River Rhine. The first British bombs fell on a German city, Mönchengladbach, on the night of 11/12 May 1940, while Bomber Command was attempting to hit roads and railroads near the Dutch-German border; four people were killed. Targets in Gelsenkirchen were attacked first on the 14/15 May.
Main article: Rotterdam Blitz
The Germans used the threat of bombing Rotterdam to try to get the Dutch to come to terms and surrender. After a second ultimatum had been issued by the Germans, it appeared that their effort had failed, and on 14 May 1940, Luftwaffe bombers were ordered to bomb Rotterdam in an effort to force the capitulation of the besieged city. The controversial bombing targeted the center of the besieged city, instead of providing direct tactical support for the hard-pressed German 22nd infantry division (under Lt. Gen. Sponeck, which had airlanded on May 10) in combat with Dutch forces northwest of the city, and in the eastern part of the city at the Meuse river bridge.
As negotiations for the surrender were in progress, with a Dutch plenipotentiary and other negotiators delayed on their way over to German lines, an unsuccessful attempt was made to call off the assault.
Rotterdam's burning city centre after the German bombing.Nevertheless, 57 Heinkel He 111s (out of 100) did drop 97 tons of bombs, and in the resulting fire 1.1 square miles (2.8 km2) of the city center was devastated, including 21 churches and 4 hospitals, and killing between 800-1000 civilians, wounding over 1,000, and making 78,000 homeless. Nearly twenty-five thousand homes, 2,320 stores, 775 warehouses and 62 schools were destroyed. 
International news agencies vastly exaggerated the events, portraying Rotterdam as a city mercilessly destroyed by terror bombing without regard to civilian life, with 30,000 dead lying under the ruins. Neither claim was true: the bombing was against well-defined targets, in direct support of advancing German Army's operations. The Germans had threatened to bomb Utrecht in the same fashion, the threat of a second such bombing was sufficient to force the surrender of the Netherlands to Nazi Germany.
Following the attack on Rotterdam, RAF Bomber Command was authorized to attack German targets east of the Rhine on May 15, 1940; the Air Ministry authorized Air Marshal Charles Portal to attack targets in the Ruhr, including oil plants and other civilian industrial targets which aided the German war effort, such as blast furnaces (which at night were self-illuminating). The first attack took place on the night of 15/16 May, with 96 bombers setting off to attack targets east of the Rhine, 78 of which were against oil targets. Of these, only 24 claimed to have found their targets. Bomber Command's strategic bombing campaign on Germany has thus begun. On the night of May 17/18, RAF Bomber Command bombed oil installations in Hamburg and Bremen: the H.E. and 400 incendiaries dropped caused six large, one moderately large and 29 small fires, 47 people were killed and 127 were wounded; . Railway yards at Cologne were attacked on the same night. During May, Essen, Duisburg, Dusseldorf and Hanover were similarly attacked for the first time by Bomber Command, while in June attacks were made on Dortmund, Mannheim, Frankfurt and Bochum. As at the time Bomber Command lacked the necessary navigational and bombing technical background, the accuracy of the bombings during the night attacks was abysmal, and the bombs usually being scattered over a large area, causing an uproar in Germany. Days after Germany bombed Paris, on the night of 7/8 June 1940 a single French Navy Farman F.223 bomber attacked Berlin.
 The Battle of Britain and the Blitz
Main articles: Battle of Britain and The Blitz
On 22 June 1940, at the end of the Battle of France, France signed an armistice with Germany. However, Britain was determined to keep fighting. On 1/2 July, the British attacked German warships Scharnhorst and Prinz Eugen in port of Kiel and the next day, 16 RAF bombers attacked German train facilities in Hamm. Finally, on July 10, the Luftwaffe launched a strategic bombing campaign against the United Kingdom. Thus began the first phase of what came to be known as the Battle of Britain. The battle began with probing attacks on British coastal shipping, during which Hitler called for the British to accept peace, but the British refused to negotiate.
Hitler's No. 17 Directive, issued 1 August 1940 on the conduct of war against England specifically forbade Luftwaffe to conduct terror raids on its own initiative, and reserved the right of ordering terror attacks as means of reprisal for the Führer himself, despite the raids conducted by RAF Bomber Command against industries located in German cities since May 1940. This was echoed in Hermann Göring's general order issued on 30 June, 1940 on the air war against the island fortress:
The war against England is to be restricted to destructive attacks against industry and air force targets which have weak defensive forces. ... The most thorough study of the target concerned, that is vital points of the target, is a pre-requisite for success. It is also stressed that every effort should be made to avoid unnecessary loss of life amongst the civilian population.
On August 8 1940, the Germans switched to raids on RAF fighter bases. To reduce losses, the Luftwaffe also began to use increasing numbers of bombers at night. By the last week of August, over half the missions were flown under the cover of dark. Despite Hitler's orders not to attack London, the city had already been bombed on 15 August, resulting in 60 deaths. There were further minor attacks on London at night in August, on the 18/19, 22/23, 24/25, 25/26 and 28/29. The raid of 22/23 August, the first Luftwaffe raid on central London, was described as 'extensive' by British observers. On August 24, fate took a turn, and several off-course German bombers accidentally bombed residential areas of London. The next day, the RAF bombed Berlin for the first time, targeting Tempelhof airfield and the Siemens factories in Siemenstadt, but were seen as indiscriminate bombings by the Germans due to their inaccuracy, and infuriated Hitler; he ordered that the 'night piracy of the British' be countered by a concentrated night offensive against the island, and especially London. In a public speech in Berlin on 4 September 1940, Hitler announced that:
The other night the English had bombed Berlin. So be it. But this is a game at which two can play. When the British Air Force drops 2000 or 3000 or 4000 kg of bombs, then we will drop 150 000, 180 000, 230 000, 300 000, 400 000 kg on a single night. When they declare they will attack our cities in great measure, we will eradicate their cities. The hour will come when one of us will break - and it will not be National Socialist Germany!
"Children in the east end of London, made homeless by the random bombs of the Nazi night raiders, waiting outside the wreckage of what was their home". September 1940 (National Archives)
St Paul's Cathedral surrounded by fire on the night of December 29 1940The Luftwaffe, which Hitler had prohibited from bombing civilian areas in the UK, was now ordered to bomb British cities. The Blitz was underway.
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
I am not saying the Japanese are blameless in that war but the response was a little overblown as compared to the slight.
Originally posted by TrustMeImaSalesman
What's wrong with America that we should want to punish with a terrible weapon, those heroic and noble orientals? Atomic warfare should not have happened.